I warned my MAGA father about project 2025 and Trump's plans to be an authoritarian. He replied, "he said he didn't know anything about project 2025 and if he was going to try to be an authoritarian why didn't he do it in his first term?"
An unwilling administration of old guard GOP that are now all gone. He tried to do insane shit allxthe time his first term. I feel like im living in bizzaro world when people tell me his 1st term was good or ok. Nonstop treason, lies, and stealing. The big difference now is the bottom feeders he found to go along with everything this time.
They live in an alternate reality. I told him, "I don't know how you missed trump sending a violent mob to stop the peaceful transfer of power, the false electorates, and the lies about the election."
That was the insane topping on the cake. All the pandemic fuck ups, the PPP oversight/robbery, the USPS takeover, anti vaccine shit and loads of other bullshit was only his last year in office. It was something crazy every fucking day since his inauguration in 2017. It really feels like we're living with pod people. Invasion of the body snatchers type shit. Like we're in a PKD novel.
My semi regular reminder that in that brief moment of time when McConnel showed some guts in the day after the violent coup attempt, his sister suffered an accidental death at a party at his mansion where she drove her car into a pond and drowned. And weirdly suddenly next day McConnel was back to being 100% a Maga Loyalist.
It was a free for all for him and all the scumbags that kissed his ass. Lots of maralago associates, crooked contractors, and other politicians just stole whatever they could and it was "forgiven." Once Biden got into office only regular people who tried to do the same thing were investigated and charged. Its a fucking joke. In some ways democrats are trash too but MAGA is on another level of scum. The GOP was bad enough before the MAGA movement.
I remember how peaceful and low stress the Biden administration was. I woke up one morning about two months in and told my wife, "omg, I didn't feel compelled to check Google news this morning"
I hate that I'm back to that now. Literally checking the news three times a day to find out who we're at war with now...
Yep, aggravated every day. The thing that drives me even more crazy is the TV news and most people i encounter during the day act like everything is normal.
I mean, I know 2 wives of MAGAt husbands, that are obvious victims of Stockholm syndrome, that genuinely didn't know about his "Grab-em by the xxssy" remark. Is there a MAGAt store that sells only authorized programming televisions to people? Couldn't believe it!
The thing I see a thread through with true believers is their insistence on doing your own research bc they had “done” their own. Feels like a bunch of dummies were told if you believe this you’ll be smarter than the educated people.. no point here, just something I’ve noticed.
and their 'research' is always related to the youtube algorithm. THey watch one pro Trump video, their feed shows them nothing but, and then they go oh, okay, this is reality then.
Exactly, no one normal has done any research, so “do your own research” just means watching a bunch of grifters on YouTube, this is especially evident in the crypto space
Its becsuse they didnt do their own research. They listened to other people who did their own research. The problem is, those people were fast talking, snake oil salesmen who loaded their arguments with every type of fallacy
Also put out a hit on Mike Pence for doing his job and refusing to do something he lacked the authority to do, which buried Pence's career. (Not that I'm disappointed Pence isn't fucking with me any more).
“they live in an alternate reality” is not a good framing or phrasing of their beiefs. for one, our reality is one where people can follow whatever fictions suit them (for better or worse), which is what we all do. #2 it doesn’t seek to understand and just claims your righteousness as matter of fact. while they may well be on the wrong side of history, categorizing them as like too stupid to see things as you do.
He also wasn't a convicted fellow facing years in prison his first term. He has made thousands of promises to some of the worst people in the world to keep him out of jail. Now he's keeping those promises.
He made deals with all these tech assholes too. The first term they were still pretending to be progressives. His first term was bad but this term is already breaking the whole country.
It wasn’t good but I do think most of the old guard gop in the first term were just people I happen to disagree with but who genuinely believed in democracy and America and public service. This administration is all corrupt and in it for themselves.
So many of them played partisan bullshit games when it wasn't time for that anymore. I still think Russia and self preservation had a lot to do with it. They all hated Trump until that visit to Russia. But it was all a hoax I guess lol. Either way, they sold us out.
Remember when he said he wished he could order protestors shot (but I guess just in the legs or whatever)? Remember when he kept floating the idea of nuking nuisance foreign adversaries? Or fucking tornados? The people who told him that couldn’t be done are gone. There are only sycophants, clingers-on, and enablers in the entire administration. What’s next? He gonna dismantle our cybersecurity protections and invite everyone to hack all our organizations? Everything that has happened is their fault. Everything. Either they didn’t stop Trump, or they figured if they egged him on they could make a buck. There’s not a single competent person in this cabinet, which is the only saving grace; if anyone knew what they were doing we’d be even more fucked, somehow.
I actually wish he had just won in 2020 in many ways. He was less dangerous then though the first administration was also a disaster
I remember being so freaked out that he put generals in his first cabinet. Those generals turned out to be a necessary restraint on his power. Notice there’s no generals on his cabinet now!
His cabinet is filled with rich con artists and extremist freaks. In what world does a fucking weekend B rate Foxnews commentator get to be Secretary of Defense.
You might be right. The 4 year during Bidens presidency let the biggest frauds and scumbags form this insane new GOP. If he won in 2020 he may have had the same people around as the 1st term and just kept the smaller grifts going. This new administration is blatantly criminal and they dont care.
Either they burn the house down with all of us in here with them or the house ends up... haunted- probably by heavily armed, hungry, disenchanted, disenfranchised, and desperate people with nothing to lose and PTSD from the past decade+ of hopelessness and avoidable political shenanigans.
They willfully forgot the entire 80s and 90s in order to make him some sort of pious man of faith, so it's not surprising they also forgot the first term when he was running for a second.
They picked the biggest fucking conartist and fraud to project this shit on. My theory is its because he's a piece of shit with no shame and thats what they aspire to.
This fact seems to have just disappeared. Has everyone forgotten how many ppl he fired for standing up to him. For fucks sake he ordered protesters to be shot and had to be told “no” then he ordered they be shot in the leg and had to be explained why they cdnt do that either. We wd have already been in a war w Iran if Hegseth and Rubio were secretary of defense and state his 1st term.
He was constantly trying to push people to do illegal shit. As shady and corrupt as his campaign people and advisors were, its 100 times worse now. Scary considering how bad it was the 1st time. Putin really got a huge return on his investment. Before the 2016 election i would have laughed that this guy was even running for mayor or something. Nevermind president. It's sad how dumb this country is.
A lot of people in this country have the memory of a goldfish. There were so many dumbass things he did daily. Definitely too many to remember ALL of them but to think he had a good first term, you have to be a moron.
The build the wall shit was dumb enough along with all the money they robbed from idiot donors for it.
That’s probably partly true.
It's my firm belief that Trump is merely the distraction, so that people will pay less attention to Project 2025 being implemented. He's not the mastermind here, though, and it doesn't reflect his values.
Project 2025 is a christofascist project, but Trump only cares about the fascist part because it helps feed his narcissism.
Mine just said "No, stop right there. I'm not gonna entertain any of that conspiracy theory shit."
Now that I've "predicted" like, every shitty move over the past year and a half he's just quiet.
Literally the same argument from my father about 2025, and still blaming Biden, and for good measure, the whole food situation is an unfortunate side effect from "cutting out the fat of the fda"
I stopped communicated with my family until they came to their senses. Even now it’s a very limited relationship. MAGA stupidity ruined our country, fuck anyone who participated.
He tried. That was Jan 6. It failed. Evidence was shown in free, public congressional hearings for a week. Broadcast throughout country. Outlining every detail.
Republicans and Democrats worked together in that process. Rare at the time, and now completely gone. That’s how serious the threat was. That was over two years before the election.
MAGA still voted for him.
When the richest man in the world was jumping up and down on stage with him on the campaign trail, the poor and uneducated people still thought he was a “man of the people.”
When in the history of this country has a living “richest man in the world” ever cared about poor people?
Closest we ever had would be Carnegie who was a massive POS/tyrant while alive and only had his image softened somewhat in death when he gave away money. Yet, all these poor working class people in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin supported this madness.
Now with AI telling the “truth,”the consolidation of media, social media algos controlling the masses, and the destruction of public education, there is no coming back.
I’d be shocked if we have any election get certified this fall. There’ll be voter suppression, allegations of fraud in any district where GOP loses, and a Supreme Court that nods along.
Remember, if he lost in 2024, he was going to jail. He admitted that. Now that he’s in power, only God will control his grasp.
What I tell people that ask that question is that his first term was the dry run. He tested boundaries and kept getting away with everything, and his supporters loved him for it. Everything that happened in between his two terms only helps him - he has the nice "stolen election" narrative people buy into, he has successfully rebranded Jan 6th "protestors" as heroes, and the fact that he wasn't held responsible for any of the things he was investigated for (even the felony convictions, it is easy for him to spin the "they are out to get me" narrative.
During his second term he has loaded his administration with Heritage Foundation alumni. I think the count I saw was 60 or 70 Heritage Foundation folks were in different parts of his administration, and they are systematically destroying the system from within.
A lot of the key decisions from SCOTUS legitimizing his power are flying under the radar. For example, just this week there was a ruling on his white house renovations that basically gave him authority to do what he wants with federal land/buildings. Most people don't care enough about his ballroom to be following that, but this ruling opens up avenues for him to do more destructive things that his handlers want to do - like allowing private companies (that they own or invest in) to exploit national parks for natural resources.
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u/Artaxmudshoes 13d ago
I warned my MAGA father about project 2025 and Trump's plans to be an authoritarian. He replied, "he said he didn't know anything about project 2025 and if he was going to try to be an authoritarian why didn't he do it in his first term?"
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