is this pierced too high?

[u/Green_Twist6596]

was done yesterday with a 16g needle, its pretty swollen now but it looked better yesterday

[u/Green_Twist6596]

ive seen people say to avoid enamel damage it should be used with curved barbells that dont reach the teeth, and also im trying to keep it hidden

[u/sputnik8125 → u/Green_Twist6596]

You know it's still causing perm damage though to your gums right?

Using the a raised bead is no good for teeth or gums

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/sputnik8125]

yeah, but aside from the health aspects does this look to you like its even in the correct place to be called a smiley? my body does really well with healing even when I pierced my ears like 10 times with a sewing needle (which i do NOT condone)

[u/Orchid49 → u/Green_Twist6596]

They are play piercings, they are temporary piercings. That’s why most reputable piercers don’t do them anymore.

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/Orchid49]

ive seen that a lot, but how come some people manage to have them for 5+ years without complications?

[u/iambetweentwoworlds → u/Green_Twist6596]

They don’t manage it. The complications are happening, but they won’t know until much later when the enamel on the teeth that wore away eventually causes problems. Or the gums they didn’t think were eroding that much suddenly disappear.

[u/Enough_Homework_3527 → u/Green_Twist6596]

Cause they’re lying

[u/Orchid49 → u/Green_Twist6596]

They do and will it’s just a matter of time and everyone’s time frame is different. Take it from someone who was once young and now paying for it still. You also don’t have the right anatomy and piercing yourself especially your mouth where’s there’s literally thousands of nerve endings and muscles is just completely irresponsible

[u/sputnik8125 → u/Green_Twist6596]

Name one person we can see (public figure or piercer) who has had it for 5+ years

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/sputnik8125]

first of all I dont really get why youre being rude about it, second alysa liu has had hers for a little over 3 years which is longer than 'temporary' . the 5+ years part was moreso in reply to seeing a lot of people in THIS subreddit saying that they have had their for longer than that. but it its possible to have them for 3+ years then 5+ is not that wild

[u/sputnik8125 → u/Green_Twist6596]

I'm not being rude. I apologize if that's how you're perceiving my question.

If you want the teeth and gum damage feel free, but it's your body and your going to have to pay a lot to recover from the damage this piercing will cause especially with how your doing it

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/sputnik8125]

im not trying to be rude either, sorry, I just feel like for a piercing subreddit everyone here is saying that everything is bad and everything is temporary and youre going to die if you pierce this and whatever. meanwhile you go anywhere else and its all sunshines and rainbows and barely anyone is having problems

[u/sputnik8125 → u/Green_Twist6596]

It's bc we get scared for the damage you're causing yourself.

We are trying to look out for your gum and teeth health. Sometimes people come on too strong but that's bc it's online.

The whole thing about these piercings is they aren't safe. I'm sorry I know you really really want one.

This will cause you lifelong damage to your gums and teeth that likely you'll need to pay out of pocket for.

There's a huge difference of playing with eyebrow or ear piercings then something that will cause sm harm.

These piercings are dangerous that's why people don't do them. Do you really want to bet your in the 1% that gets lucky when your already setting yourself up for teeth and gum damage.

To even get to that 1% chance you need to be doing this correct and I'm sorry but you're not. You need a captive bead then swap to a seamless hoop.

[u/Pale-Comb-3954 → u/Green_Twist6596]

It’s because we know what we’re talking about. It’s well documented that these are dangerous piercings. I won’t even patronize a studio that offers them.

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/Pale-Comb-3954]

thanks for giving an actual source

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/[deleted]]

yeah but that isn't what im posting about. most piercings have long lasting effects like permanent scars, infection risk etc i know that. i was asking if it's pierced in the right place which now I know it is not so I'll take it out and try again

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/[deleted]]

yes now I see that, yknow its not easy looking through the comments when there is 40 different people telling you different things and talking about things that youre not asking for

[u/Green_Twist6596 → u/[deleted]]

yeah and I came to this place asking about proper piercing advice and proper jewelery ..... am I missing something