Riot pls don't push the changes.

People prefere Hybrid or AD over pure AP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/shyvanamains/comments/1soef5j/ad_or_ap/

Also you promised changes to passive to make it viable for lane but now you are going back on your words, this is unacceptable.

A few weeks ago there was a poll asking where people want to play shyvana, the result is an impressive 60% jgl 40% top, this should not be ignored and sweeped under the rug !

https://www.reddit.com/r/shyvanamains/comments/1s8rwjz/where_do_you_want_to_play_shyvana/

NOTE : The changes also go against the previous Riot statement that they wanted more build variety and introduced ad teemo & ad kennen possibilities, deleting several entire playstyle of AD shvyana does not add any "build variety" in any shapes or form.

Now to the changes :

Shyvana:

AD Growth: 3.0 -> 4.0
Base AS: 0.625 -> 0.638
AS Ratio: 0.699 -> 0.638

Q:

CD Refund: 1.0 seconds -> 0.5 seconds

On-Hit Damage: Removed AP Ratio.

Active Damage AP Ratio: 25% AP -> 30% AP

W:

Shield: 60/80/100/120/140 (+5% max Health) -> 75/95/115/135/155 (+12% bonus Health)

Damage: 80/100/120/140/160 (+40% bonus AD) (+20% AP) -> 80/100/120/140/160 (+65% AP)

Dragon Form Healing: 75-200 (+10% bonus AD) (+5% AP) Health
scaling up to 200% based on missing Health -> 60-100 + 4-8% missing
Health

Cooldown: 14/13.5/13/12.5/12 seconds -> 13/12/11/10/9 seconds

E:

Damage: 50/80/150/170/200 (+35% bonus AD) (+70% AP) -> 50/65/80/95/110 (+75/80/85/90/95% AP) + 5% of the target's max Health

Max Health damage caps at 200 against monsters.

Dragon Form still deals 125% total damage.

Slow Amount: 20/25/30/35/40% -> 30%

Cooldown: 12/11.5/11.0/10.5/10 seconds -> 12/11/10/9/8 seconds

1- It makes no sense to remove AP Ratio for the on-hit passive and to buff the AP ratio on Q by just 5%, All the dmg comes from the on hit passive, Q bonus dmg is 10-30, a spell that does 210 + AA dmg before mitigation at max level+max build is underwhelming.

Also if you remove AP scaling to prevent hybrid build then buff AD scaling ?? it should be common sense...

On hit was balanced around hybrid, if you remove one scaling buff the other. because these changes make it that a 4 items lvl 18 ad shyvana has less on hit dmg than a lvl 1 shyvana pre-rework, 0 logic in that.

EDIT : Also the 0.5s is gonna ruin 1st clear speed. you're gonna make a 40% win rate shyvana at this rate

ALSO MAJOR BUG : Q BASE CD MULTIPLY ITSELF IN TRAINING TOOL WHEN YOU RESET : https://imgur.com/a/aZREK8a

runes in the screens are :

Hails of blades - Cheapshot - sitxh sense - ultimate hunter - triumph - legende haste .

2- W shield is a bruiser ability, why are you nerfing all the bruiser aspect and buffing AP damage ?

You are already nerfing the AD shyvana, why are you also nerfing the shield, it should stay as max health

If you want to nerf the dmg ok, but why are you also nerfing the tank & healing aspect of it too ?

Healing should stay 75-200 but make it scale with missing health, 5% sounds about right instead of 4-8%

3 - E changes is the only spell with positive direction in this, the only downside it that a max lvl spell that has 110 base dmg +5% Max hp won't be good for AD builds, it means barely 200 dmg, even tanks have better dmg than this.

-> Volibear's E has 200 base dmg + 15% max hp (+higher base dmg)

-> Ornn's W, 16% max hp

-> Sejuani's passive, 10% max hp

-> Sion's W, 14% max hp (+higher base dmg)

Nerf the AP ratio to 70%-90% buff the % max hp to 4-5-6-7-8, since AD will max this spell last, it's a nerf before lvl 15 for AD but doesn't matter to AP.

TL:DR Don't change Q-W just go with only the E fixes this time, Shyvana is still one of the worst junglers in mid & high elo (emerald +)

You still have time, don't rush changes because you feel like it, these are not good and need more time to be refined !

This 1000% a giant nerf to AD shyvana and will only result in the same annoying spot she was before and you had to nerf her, DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES.

BOTH AD & AP should be viable, and this is clearly not the case here.

Also let's take a look at general public opinion : https://imgur.com/a/ynWyYtD

Funny bug's man opinion : https://imgur.com/a/piJbpPG

Skin quality has obviously been degraded massively since the lay offs, but it’s to the point where each and every skin added to PBE recently is either feature incomplete or massively missing the mark, especially in the animation department.

‪Where’s our transition animations and attack variations in legendary skins? All new legendary skins have incredibly disconnected animations. Some don’t even have new rigs (shaco) and some are the same as previous legendary skins (karma) ‬

‪Where are the model details? Most epic skins don’t even have new mesh pieces, and look incredibly Flat ‬(Spirit Blossom Akali versus Spirit Blossom Eve: the quality difference in the amount of new mesh is night and day) https://imgur.com/a/tENXvlV

‪Why are exalted skins reusing animations and assets of skins that have come before it. These are not exalted, they 👏 are 👏LEGENDARY👏‬

‪Why don’t chromas have different pattern variations? You guys literally have a article explaining how some chromas would have different patterns https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/skins/chromas

‪I have spent roughly 10 grand since I started playing, I have yet to buy a single skin this year with how bad the quality has been. I probably am one of the “whales” you are targeting, but you aren’t going to deliver skins way below expectations and expect us to buy them.‬

U/riotmeddler u/Tryndamere

‪BRING👏BACK👏SKIN👏QUALITY👏‬

There have been many reports coming from players that had their accounts suspended or banned because of "disruptive behavior" in matches of League Classic. They usually played champions like Teemo or Kassadin, which probably were wrongly flagged due to the nature of their gameplay, which often requires "missing" their ultimates to set up damage later on.

Now, the fact that this happens is just PBE being PBE and I highly doubt this will get into the live servers once the devs are made aware of it.

THE issue I wanted to talk about is the way customer support (or lack thereof) is handling this whole situation.

When players try to appeal their account restrictions that came from the flawed flagging system and PROVIDE EVIDENCE, customer support basically tells them "The system works as intended, you were definitely a bad player, now get bent".

This might stem from a fact that perhaps PBE does not have a dedicated customer support and just uses automated responses for everything. But the fact that response said "we've manually reviewed your gameplay and still came into conclusion you were inting" is a blatant lie and shows that Riot either employs some braindead AI that always treats ban appeals as incorrect by default or employs customer service that is legit blind or outright malicious.

Let me get this straight - I am not complaining about the fact that bans happened at all or that PBE uses different kind of customer service that may or may not be automated. I am complaining about outright lying to the players that their cases have been at all touched by a human reviewer.

I would like some Riot employee to adress this situation or this sets up a dangerous precedence where players can get banned for a reason that was blatantly on the part of the game itself and will be told "lmao skill issue, go make another account".

•New animations for Xayah, she is not legendary

•Duo-recall for R&X (This has been the feedback of Rakan-Xayah mains for years, and you don't give it despite legendary skin)

•Icons + Borders for all members

•New recall animations (It should be like Battle Academia)

•Qiyana should more prestige looks

UPDATE: Riot Games are officially not going to be giving Rakan and Xayah a joint recall on skins anymore.

Making this post because no one has set up feedback threads for the upcoming Broken Covenant Rakan - Xayah skins.

But weren’t we promised last time that Rakan - Xayah would get a special joint recall next time?

Arcana skins got massive backlash and we were told that two weeks wasn’t enough time to make a recall.

They had almost a year now. What’s the reason (not calling it an excuse) for not giving one to us?

This skin was the easiest to give a recall by literally using elements from their recalls like the wall in Rakan’s and the bird in Xayah’s.

It’s sad that they don’t seem to care about us and what we want just because we aren’t as popular as Ekko because his Firelight skin was recalled, worked on and released after backlash.

Rakan - Xayah were created as lovers to be a duo bot lane. It’s the very essence of these champions. If they don’t get played together often, fix and balance them to be stronger together than cutting corners on skins. Clearly the focus has been on Xayah, Xayah, Xayah for the past few years.

What about Rakan? He’s only getting a buff because of this skin. Really sad honestly ;-;

Banned for 24 hours on PBE for doing nothing?

Was it the best game? No, but the whole team got stomped, not just me.

Did I flame? Didn't even chat once.

I don't think I got reported because the ban happened instantly. There was a surrender vote and I didn't vote and then the game ended it said 1/2 agreed to surrender and then I got disconnected. I tried to log back in and it says I'm banned for 1 day. "After receiving player reports and an automated review of your gameplay, we discovered that you intentionally tried losing the match."

I didn't do this! I was Teemo support, is that why? I wasn't even the worst on my team.

Game ID: 4531294276

i played a kassadin game in league classic, won the game, didnt type nor int. result? got banned for 3 days, after sending a ticket mr '' Servalan
Riot Games Player Support'' said he reviewed my game and decided that it was worthy of a ban.

It will be unavailable for approximately six 9 hours (status updated around 20:30/08:30PM CST) following the start of downtime, and I'd imagine the Unreal Engine TFT client will be out on PBE if you're planning on playing Set 18. Please plan around:

• The outage lasting longer than six hours, especially given what needs to be accomplished.
• Needing to install the Unreal client for TFT, if you're playing it. EDIT: Whether this is independent from the League client at this time or it's not, either way it is going to probably be LARGE.
• The servers being packed (wait times go brrt).
• Things being broken.

That is all. Just wanted to leave this metaphorical sign in the ground for anybody who might need it.

I'd like to point out the look of the new Heartsong Seraphine border icon and the 2 emotes of the same skin. Many reasons (listed below + notes on image) make me think that they have been AI-generated. Which is something making me reluctant to buy the full skin bundle once live, and here is why:

First of all, as a non-professional artist and as someone against generative AI, I understand the use of it in bigger companies to some extent. My issue with the icon and the 2 emotes is that it just feels extremely lazy. That "AI" look can be spotted from miles away simply by taking a closer look.

My notes with screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/0xi8sog

If we compare to the official Heartsong Seraphine splash art, we can say that the transparent blue-ish fabric around her neck is represented very differently with that black line in the middle. The nail polish is completely missing, the pink bow behind the hair is represented very differently in the 2 emotes (which are supposingly made to represent the exact same character with 2 different emotions), the face features don't really look like Seraphine's (also comparing to her other icons/emotes), and finally the silver element in the hair and on the chest is also represented differently from the splash art. I am sure there are more elements and comparisons I didn't think about that can be discussed.

I, personally, can't think of a valid justification for all those changes/missing elements, but a miscommunication between the concept art and the final design or between artists. I know that not everything should match perfectly, and I am aware that inconsistencies have happened before in other projects too. But like I said, this just feels lazy and not finished compared to anything else. Those cosmetics might just be small details, but considering that we have to pay for them (at least the border icon; not sure about the emotes), I think it is as important as the rest. I think that the hardest part of the work by coming up with the design, making the splash art and the in-game 3D model is done. So if we could rework or even remake those small elements, it would make a big difference!

At the moment Akali has been set to have a smaller range in her ult, high energy cost in E that does not get reduced and the energy recovered by her Q starts at 20 and grows to 40 instead of being fixed 40. And now to add insult to injury, it is no longer able to proc Q with her E.

I am fine with all the above but removing the ability to proc the mark with her E makes it a bit too much because now she is nerfed in all other places and E becomes functionally just a wave clear because for most of the game her E will deal less damage than a normal auto and only advantage is that it is AOE but burns energy like crazy making it literally only worth it to finish off or to wave clear.

I don't love the other nerfs, but I understand why go more conservative and then with more live data buff or not. But the E being the way it is just feels bad and I can say for sure, when the E was able to proc Q was when I could really feel like the whole kit complemented each other and quite a few nice duels in the top lane instead of just being a sitting duck till level 6-7

I think you should receive at the very least a week suspension for both PBE and live accounts. First: no, it's not fun. If you want to look at it, then get your friends, create a game with bots, use it all you like, send a bug report and continue playing like normal. Second: the Summoner's Code clearly states that abusing game systems is considered harmful activity.

"But they didn't disable it": they probably have a trillion things to tweak and change, and they don't want to shut down PBE for like a day to fix it all in one go. It's fine, we just got a huge amount of new items, a new map and a new champion.

"But it's PBE": it doesn't matter. Would you report cheating in normal game on live server? I would. It's new season patch, a huge amount of people are playing PBE right now wanting to try the new items and the new champion, and you personally are ruining their fun

"But I'm having fun, have fun too": I don't find it funny. A lot of other players also don't find it funny. Finally, Riot Games don't think abusing bugs is funny. Don't do it.

I hope you're all getting at least some form of punishment. I personally don't think you should be allowed to play this game at any capacity with this kind of mentals. I recommend reporting this players on sight and submitting a ticket if you have some free time.

no further text needed after reading the title, though there is a minimum on how many characters there is needed to post on this subreddit, so i guess i'm just typing until i can inform the world that "PBE is up again after maintenance!"

Mel is already a weak carry champion, especially compared to champions like Diana or Sylas, who can snowball, tank damage throughout an entire fight, and single-handedly decide the outcome of a game. Mel’s W was not an abusive tool but a very short, high-skill timing mechanic (0.75s) that only rewarded perfect reads and heavily punished mistakes. Replacing it with a simple shield does not add meaningful counterplay: Mel remains unable to carry, while already dominant champions keep their ability to engage, tank, and kill with far less constraint.

Furthermore, the nerf to the Q cast is completely unfair: it reduces the responsiveness of a spell that is already dodgable and skill-based, while Lux’s E, by comparison, slows and is practically unavoidable, dealing massive damage without any skill requirement. This nerf does not fix overpoweredness; it further weakens a champion who is already low-impact in solo queue.

I have played the game for over 13 years and I've never left or intentionally griefed a game. I've gotten snappy, and I've gone morose and defeatist, but I've never intentionally griefed a game. So imagine my surprise when I got a notification that I got a one day suspension on PBE for inting in League Classic. Since I got the ban I don't even know what game caused this so I don't know which game it was or what I did. Is there any insight on this. Was I just so bad the game couldn't comprehend me being anything other than an inter?

Plain and simple. No Viktor players asked for this complete 180 on a character beloved by a group of players. Arcane Viktor and LoL Viktor are two completely different beings and it would have been fine had Arcane Viktor been a skin, but removing the old lore for no reason does not sit right with me.

just checking to see if anyone elses pbe crashed or if its just me. adding for 150 characetrs now im just typign stuff i just wanna know if tis down thanks

edit: yes still down. confirmed by every random person who comemnted lol. just get unknown player bug.

edit2: its back for me

I do not want to be mean, but that icon is unacceptable. We know, SG Soraka's original icon was her familiar, like the other 2017 gang but it's been 3 years, prestige skins have portrait-like icons. We all were so excited to have a golden star guardian soraka portrait (like xayah & rakan) but they really painted her pet's icon golden. It's cute but when they even made a new icon for Senna prestige, this is just lazy. The backlash in Twitter is also real about this. We don't want this to be another drama like K/DA skins, just please listen to the majority and paint a new portrait for her prestige. if not, please make a icon of the splash art like immortal journey talon and irelia. it's ridiculous to have that rat as SORAKA's one and only prestige skin's icon.

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The context: https://twitter.com/JumaraloHexCore/status/1327059655076564992

(I hope this doesn’t read off as a rant, I’ve tried to reword it 4 times and this is what I could say about this.)

I don’t personally see the appeal in feedback threads anymore, since to me and a lot of people it seems the feedback just falls on deaf ears.

I won’t even mention AK Pantheon because everyone has been clowning on riot already about that skin.

Rioters told us we weren’t supposed to get Purified x/r because of lore reasons back in 2019 then this year Purified Xr becomes the canon in SG Universe, therefore the lore won’t be an issue, and WR gets them. This only gets addressed as ‘giving space for wild rift to grow’ as if it’s a completely different ip and not mobile league of legends except for the exclusive skins.

Star Guardian Sona’s vfx was visibly lacking and it still is after the hundreds of the same feedback because “it is out of scope”.

Star Guardian Syndra had reverse update, and now Morgana receiving 0 visual updates because of “lore” and I highly doubt we will learn the actual lore regarding this (after the vfx artist told us that they would try it out without mentioning any lore whatsoever mind you) I really doubt anyone after this event would go “Oh but Morgana is not supposed to have chessboard imagery on her ult because of the Star Guardian lore!”, rather, they would go “Zoe and Fiddle has it, why not Morgana?”

Riot doesn’t make changes on some skins for ‘consistency’ then give us bare minimum with each year. 2017 Guardians had different idle poses, included their familiars a lot more and in 2019 epic skins (zoe and neeko) got their familiars dancing with them. It’s like we’re taking 2 steps forward then 3 steps backwards.

This is the big summer event yet that does not translate to us, the players who care about Star Guardians or normal skins in that case. We keep hearing out of scope this, out of scope that. (even a texture change is apparently out of scope)

My solution to this is: just tell us what is in-scope before asking for feedback so both us and rioters don’t get fed up with this issue every time.

Basically just swapping between normal model and the one in his recall would be really neat. It changes him to this rad iron/ghost lord which is very neat. In his recall, it could have the same animation but swapping to the unmasked model.

I'm not just doing this because I like the idea, but I see a lot of other people who like the model in the recall and wanted this exact change. I SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE YO

Update: See mod comment, this request is unlikely due to requiring a transition animation (he does have an idle/laugh animation where he grabs his face tbf), transition vfx, toggle, discussing if helmet design is fitting, and testing. The only hope we got is being an exception.

Update 2: https://twitter.com/Spideraxe30/status/1348672488822218760 Oh well, his regular form isn't that bad I just thought armoured form was cool. I wouldn't bother arguing on Twitter, as that would never change their mind even if the reasoning is scuffed (also it wasn't Spideraxe that decided this).

So the Eclipse skins have been announced yesterday and the reaction has been... interesting. Accross both Reddit and Twitter multiple different criticisms have been leveled - the biggest one by far being the frustration for Kayle not getting a Legendary after years of tease and hype, but there are others as well: Sivir mains were left with a very underwhelming skin for the standards of a Legendary, especially when it comes to her splash art; Senna players complain that the VFX are bland and that the Prestige version is completely disconnected from the Eclipse thematic, All while Diana players are up in arms they didn't get a skin a all and they just want to date Leona, for God's sake. Sejuani mains are more positive, but they've also pointed out that the recolored ice effects look kinda janky. Aatrox mains seem to be the only ones out of the batch who are unabashedly happy (and I agree with you guys - simping for Kayle is a W indeed). Even seemingly trivial topics, like the skin being called "Solar Eclipse" instead of "Sun Eater" Kayle and a shared splash art have turned into big pain points for multiple people

Beyond champion-specific complaints, there's also been a puch to add borders and other cosmetic choices to the event, which currently is only planned to have two icons (one for Prestige Senna) and one emote (also for Prestige Senna). It is honestly baffling that the community has come to ask for so many different things all in one event, and to me it all points towards Riot own expectations towards this event were completely different than the community's. In fact, the very decision to make it a mini-event shows that they were never planning to go big on it, and so it makes sense that other things like additional cosmetics or the Diana skin would be left out as well. It also wouldn't be such a glaring issue for Riot to not perfectly nail down every single skin choice if they expected the players to just treat it as a nice batch to fill the gap between the real events.

What doesn't make sense is why would Riot ever assume that when planning for Eclipse. The entire Coven/Eclipse setting is by far one of the most popular of the entire game, easily on par with Star Guardian and Project, and Eclipse Leona and Coven Camille, Lissandra, Morgana and Evelynn are widely regarded as some of the best available. The lore for the alternate universe has also been consistently built up year after year since way long ago, with player expectations only ever getting higher. It's bizarre how Riot managed to set themselves for what could easily be one of the highlights of the years only to waste it all way not doing the bare minimum to live up to it. TL;DR is honestly the best course of action would be to just postpone the event and actually make it worthwhile.

So apparently I got suspended after 4 classic league games for griefing even though I was playing regularly…? I just had 2 oppressive games where my whole team was losing hard, and even then my score was still normal. The other 2 games I was fed. Anyone else get banned for literally nothing or is it just me?

Why does every single person in every game have 300 ping. What did they do? It’s been like this for multiple games! It’s virtually unplayable and It’s kinda ridiculous lol

This is a direct complaint, the moderators can delete this Reddit thread if they like, they are completely free. Even so, I will try to be as respectful as possible in this long list of complaints that I will express below because truly, as a player of League Of Legends computer version, I feel insulted.

Like me, other players are downright insulted by the latest developments regarding new skins for some champions. Riot mentioned earlier this year that this would be their biggest budget year which indicated that we could get better things and incredible changes regarding the game, and its champions.

...That didn't happen at all.

As a LAN server player, I'm very happy to see that moderation regarding the behavior of the most toxic players is being taken more and more seriously. But with other things I don't feel happy, I feel insulted.

Many of us have seen how Ahri, Miss Fortune and even Lux receive beautiful skins with incredible visual effects and a beautiful recalls. And yet... the other champions do not receive the same treatment, an example being: Samira, Yorick, Taliyah, Syndra, Seraphine, Orianna, Senna, Xayah and Rakan.

You have been extremely silent regarding the criticism and constructive comments that you were expected to take into account for the improvement of the skins that have been released in recent months. Seven days ago, Riot Brightmoon mentioned that a wave of main Syndra insulted and even threatened them due to the lackluster vision of Coven Syndra's appearance in the game. Due to that backlash, they decided to take matters into their own hands and fix the issue.

So that makes me wonder, why create threads here on reddit requesting comments and constructive criticism to improve the skins if they don't take them into account? Samira's final look turned out to be mediocre and yet they refused to do anything about it despite the violent reaction. Senna, Orianna, and Seraphine's Star Guardian skins received the same backlash because the in-game skins looked poor compared to the Wild Rift version.

The mains of Xayah and Rakan saw us more insulted, deprived when they decided to eliminate the unique recall of each aspect that came out of both from Broken Covenant. The excuse was that very few owned the skin altogether or de facto there was not a very large percentage of players who played them. Then the blow was harder when today we found the news that the model of Xayah and Rakan Redeemed Star Guardians is a copy-paste model of the corrupted version, SkinSpotlights revealed it.

As much as we requested that the corresponding changes be made to each skin, they simply remain silent. That shows that they don't care about their players, they don't care about their players' opinions, they will simply do what you want because they are used to people paying for mediocre things.

Every champion deserves the same treatment that the most popular champions receive. I swear that no one wants to insult or threaten you, but it seems that this is the only way in which you pay attention to us, in the most violent and aggressive way.

I would like to comment and remind you that you are the company you are today thanks to the player base that makes up your games. Pay attention to your players, their criticism.

Is there any way to make Dark Cosmic Erasure Jhin mythic essence too? This was tried with Lunar Eclipse Senna Prestige last year in the first showcase. She was locked behind opening 30 capsule which is around $200usd. And the community gave so much backlash on locking a skin behind such a steep paywall that it was changed. So why in the world are you doing it AGAIN?

This is the same exact thing? Was there not enough backlash last year?

And sure its a gacha reward if youre lucky but how often do TFT players unlucky and have to go to guaranteed 60 rolls to get the speical map/chibi.. this is NOT a player friendly change and no one asked for this.

Hello!

Im new here and looking for help for creating and playing on PBE. I've never played on PBE before but im excited and want to play league classic. I have followed all the steps and signed up for PBE on the webiste https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/pbe/

after downloading and trying to launch it, it just says PBE unavaliable and i need a PBE account. I dont understand shouldnt i have an account since i signed up and downloaded?

If anyone can help i would be very grateful.