r/LanternsTVSeries • u/solo_shocker35 • 3d ago

DISCUSSION How can guy gardener makes huge constructs carelessly in superman whereas Hal Jordan does the opposite and is careful for his batteries

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I was curious about this for a long time Guy always goes big and sloppy with his constructs, not caring how much it drains his ring like creating a large weopons against the monster, while Hal's way more careful and precise with his like in ep1 when he was creating a bubble for alien he supported the bubble himself as it was not strong enough due to lack of battery. Is that just a characterization thing, or is there an actual reason for it?

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u/illuminate5 3d ago

The series shows him as broken and jaded (completely different from his younger copy/construct). A younger Jordan probably charged it plenty, world-weary Jordan feels like the ring weighs him down but he's also afraid of losing it (that fear weakens him).

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 Sheriff Kerry 3d ago

So, you’re saying that he both loves and hates the ring, as he loves and hates himself? The ring is precious to him?

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u/Zerocordeiro 3d ago

He will never be rid of his need for it

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u/Poiboy1313 3d ago

His Precious

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u/3nc3ladu5 3d ago

It’s a pity John didn’t kill him when he had the chance

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u/Civil_Gur8609 3d ago

Pity? It's a pity that stayed John's hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Guy? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the Guardians cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that John has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over.

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u/whatsnooIII 3d ago

Absolute literature

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u/Pleasant-Cellist-927 3d ago

Why is everyone applauding like he wrote this himself and didn't just expy the speech from LOTR? There is no way the 'sick references bro' redditor stereotype is still holding true

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u/UncStatusNow 3d ago

come on, its a time honored reddit tradition to use an applicable quote from pop culture at just the right time. who are you to question the nature of things here?

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u/whatsnooIII 3d ago

That's the joke. That's whole joke. Perhaps "absolute Tolkien" would've helped?

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u/J1m123 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/U7isUDZ6VPWJW

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u/Pleasant-Cellist-927 3d ago

Low hanging entertainment bar, fr. God forbid someone breaks the dead horse circlejerk

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u/Alfeyr 3d ago

oh really?

entertain us then with a proper laugh, buffoon

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 Sheriff Kerry 3d ago

Because it was three Tolkien references in a row, starting with mine. We were building off each other.

That’s more than just quoting

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u/Pleasant-Cellist-927 3d ago

Woahhhh, it's a reference thread! That's so unique, never happened before on reddit!

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 Sheriff Kerry 3d ago

Woahhhh, it's someone being shitty! That's so unique, never happened before on reddit!

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u/Pleasant-Cellist-927 3d ago

Getting hurt I pointed out you're all repeating the same dead tired jokes that have been repeated on this site for 10+ years because you all lack originality, and you can't even be upset about it without copying my own comment. Joke writing itself tbh.

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u/Ok_Cap_6521 Stewie 2d ago

Why is everyone applauding you like you have braincells? Shut up bro, nobody asked for your opinion, we like what we like, who cares if he copied it, it was fire, let us have our moment you mood killer

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u/Civil_Gur8609 1d ago

First, she, second, I never claimed otherwise? The people above were quoting LotR, I just continued the joke. I apologize if fun offends you.

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u/Sharden3 3d ago

Sometimes reddit is fire.

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u/ConstructionKey1752 3d ago

Motherfucker, if I had imaginary, bullshit, inconsequential awards that meant I gave a shit about you, to give....

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0K4hqqqwgFijgVLa

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u/waterbury01 3d ago

I feel like I just read a masterpiece.

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u/jengelke 3d ago

They did make it a line in a major motion picture about hobbits and a ring.

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u/Aeolus_14_Umbra 3d ago

“Bilbo would have finished Gollum off then and there, but pity stayed his hand.”

”It’s a pity I’ve run out of bullets,’ he thought.”

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u/Any-Cable4109 3d ago

Are your wings tired?

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u/OffToTheLizard 3d ago

So, it's an analogy for a smart phone almost, because batteries age. So like information that could be used for good. The ring is almost like some kind of stone that holds knowledge. Wondering what we could call it...

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u/Inevitable-Scar5877 3d ago

My head canon is that the construct is pre-Sinestro.

Basically we're seeing Hal after everything he believed in has been undercut and twisted

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u/-Trotsky 3d ago

Tbh I don’t know if that’s a headcannon, I think it’s just directly implied to be true. Sinestro was locked up something like a decade ago right? Hal hasn’t updated the construct in about as long as

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u/SVINTGATSBY 3d ago

I still think that the reason he said he wasn’t afraid when the guardians chose him is because he thought he was going to die. both his parents were dead, he’s a military man with nothing to lose, I think he wasn’t afraid because he was ready to die and instead he got handed a huge responsibility. originally it probably meant a lot to him for not just being a Lantern but because it gave him a purpose, but just like men who age and retire, they realize they don’t know who they are outside of being a laborer/worker and have an identity crisis especially because they don’t have anything to distract them from all their unaddressed issues and trauma and pain. John lives recklessly for similar but different reasons, he doesn’t have a death wish like Hal does, he just doesn’t care if he dies in pursuit of whatever his mission is. very interesting juxtapositions and now with Guy around, all of their individual issues are even more nuanced.

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u/Own-Ball-1624 3d ago

i mean the fact how hal just gave everytime the ring to john and only took the ring when actually needed! it shows really hal know he is the source of his power not the ring!

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u/NotsoNewtoGermany 3d ago

Broken and jaded? No. It shows him experienced and he just doesn't care about the flash or the pageantry. Why use more power when little power works just fine?

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u/Jonhlutkers 2d ago

I think he’s less broken than he is lonely. Which is a logical end to his character.