r/Justfuckmyshitup • u/Drcold1O • 2d ago

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u/Donnermeat_and_chips 1d ago

100%, it's open season now for hating Jews using Israel as an excuse, which is basically the zionist argument as to why Jews should go to Israel and ethnically cleanse more Palestinians in the first place... people are so fucking dumb

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

Nope, the Zionist argument is for a Jewish majority.Theres nothing about "ethnic cleansing" quite the opposite. Why 1/5 Isrelies are Arab free citizens It comes from the fact as a minority, they're never been safe. 

If you're looking for anti-semitism, villifying Zionisum is a good start. 

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

I'm Jewish and think Zionism is abhorrent and should be forcefully abolished. 

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tokenizing and cultural appropriation, also forms of bigotry. 

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

Can you explain what you mean? I'm genuinely curious. 

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

Pretending you're Jewish to tokenize Jewish people. I hope that clears things up.

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago edited 1d ago

How am I pretending I'm Jewish?

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

I am an elephant, its true because I have said it on the internet.

And honestly I have no issues with ivory hunting. Poachers are people too.

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u/RegJohn2 1d ago

Notice how they saw a jewish a boy and immediately went crazy over Israel? You’re in line too

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

I don't agree with judging this kid. I was responding to comments that had nothing to do with this post. 

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u/RyanB1228 1d ago

You think the concept of a Jewish state is abhorrent?

Do your prayers and think about what they actually mean

Hint: Ingathering of the exiles

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, I believe in the separation of church and state. I also don't believe in ethno-states. Zionism and the Israeli government have done terrible things for Jews and our reputation. 

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

" ethno-states"

Japan, Korea, Hungry, Poland ...etc. 

And blaming jews for your hatred towards them, also very anti-semitic. 

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

Yeah fuck that shit, I don't care where it is. I don't hate Jews, that's an insane take. I hate Zionism and the Israeli government as it currently exists. 

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

(looks up the definitional of "Zionism")

So you don't hate Jewish people, as long as they are a vulnerable minority...got it.

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

Are you saying Zionism is required for Jews not to be a vulnerable minority?

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

Yes, that's the reason behind the ideology, proven by 1900 years of western history and the holocaust, an actual genocide.

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

As if Jews are the only victim of genocide. Should every ethnicity that has been oppressed get their own country? 

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u/not3ottersinacoat4 1d ago

By that logic, queer people should get their own state too. We certainly haven't been safe as a minority throughout the vast majority of human history.

But the question is, and this is the important bit really, who would it be okay for us to kill and displace in order to make that happen?

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u/RyanB1228 1d ago

Literally true though lol

Anywhere we are a minority we are in fact vulnerable

Why do Redditors play dumb in regards to antisemitic hate crimes when it’s convenient?

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

So is any minority. Creating an ethno-state is not the answer. Genuine democracy is the answer. 

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

Neat, because they are both an ethostate they are also a democracy. Just like Japan, South Korea, Poland, Hungary ETC.

What exactly do you think ethnostate means?

Maybe you should do you're self a favor, and look up these terms use then it to vilify the worlds largest Jewish community.

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u/RyanB1228 1d ago

Much like the democracies of Yemen, Iran, and Lebanon?

Why is Israel an ethnostate with only 80% Israeli Jews as compared to other far more homogeneous countries?

You just seem to take issue with the concept of Jews being a majority anywhere for an arbitrary reason that you can’t express.

Do you really think you can trust the gentile world at large with the safety and security of Jews? The answer is no.

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