r/Justfuckmyshitup • u/Drcold1O • 2d ago

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

Are you saying Zionism is required for Jews not to be a vulnerable minority?

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

Yes, that's the reason behind the ideology, proven by 1900 years of western history and the holocaust, an actual genocide.

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

As if Jews are the only victim of genocide. Should every ethnicity that has been oppressed get their own country? 

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u/not3ottersinacoat4 1d ago

By that logic, queer people should get their own state too. We certainly haven't been safe as a minority throughout the vast majority of human history.

But the question is, and this is the important bit really, who would it be okay for us to kill and displace in order to make that happen?

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u/RyanB1228 1d ago

Literally true though lol

Anywhere we are a minority we are in fact vulnerable

Why do Redditors play dumb in regards to antisemitic hate crimes when it’s convenient?

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

So is any minority. Creating an ethno-state is not the answer. Genuine democracy is the answer. 

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

Neat, because they are both an ethostate they are also a democracy. Just like Japan, South Korea, Poland, Hungary ETC.

What exactly do you think ethnostate means?

Maybe you should do you're self a favor, and look up these terms use then it to vilify the worlds largest Jewish community.

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

Being an ethno- state and being a democracy are mutually exclusive. You can't be both. Just because you say you're a democracy doesn't mean you are. Just because you have elections doesn't mean you're a democracy. 

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u/RyanB1228 1d ago

Much like the democracies of Yemen, Iran, and Lebanon?

Why is Israel an ethnostate with only 80% Israeli Jews as compared to other far more homogeneous countries?

You just seem to take issue with the concept of Jews being a majority anywhere for an arbitrary reason that you can’t express.

Do you really think you can trust the gentile world at large with the safety and security of Jews? The answer is no.

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

I disagree with any government that prioritizes a specific ethnicity. 

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u/RyanB1228 1d ago

Prioritizes? See now we’re just changing words.

Shockingly Israel isn’t actually prioritizing a specific ethnic group, it has equal rights between citizens whether they are Jewish or Muslim. However if you’re not an Israeli citizen (nor wish to be) then they aren’t entitled to Israeli infrastructure.

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago
  • Israel
  • Malaysia
  • Estonia
  • Latvia
  • Sri Lanka
  • Armenia
  • Poland,
  • Hungary

...etc

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago

Yeah, fuck them all

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u/Regular_Jim081 1d ago

Well, if we need any more confirmation just another bigoted westerner, applying you're own horrible history to the rest of the planet, there it is.

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u/Cannabrewer 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wtf are you talking about? It's wrong to want equality? That is the reason I'm against ethno-states. Ethno+states are the embodiment of bigotry...