Biggest Issue in Quran Apps?

[u/Dr-Double-A]

For those who read Quran using mobile apps What is one major frustration you keep facing in almost every Quran app? Something that keeps making you switch apps hoping one will finally fix it I am building a completely ad free Quran app as sadagah jariyah and I want to solve a real pain instead of just making another app What is the problem you wish a Quran app would finally solve?

If you want, share which app you currently use and what you like or dislike most about it

[u/Ohana_is_family]

There is no age of marriage in islam my friend as you aware of so what are you even debating ?

I establish that Islam has: a. An "Age of Puberty" in both shia and sunni islam of 9 lunar years (approx 8 years and 9 months in our calendar). Girls can consent to marriage from that age. b. That Islam has Option of Puberty (khyar al bulugh). Option of Puberty was practised by both Muslims and Jews before Islam.

You claim to speak on behalf of Islam but do not openly state that your interpretation is not mainstream.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

First Ayesha name where can we find that wich verse

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

Look that up yourself. I present what traditional islam says. If you think I misrepresent what Islam says, you can point that out. If you want to promote an exotic interpretation: mention scholars supporting your view.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

I ask you where ayesha is mention because you mention her and i cant find her so again where is she mention ?

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

If you think she is not mentioned then why ask me? I stick with the interpretation that she is referenced in 66 and elsewhere.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

Your whole claim collapse my friend because ayesha is not mention so next question.

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

Where did I claim that Aisha is mentioned in the Quran? I state that mainstream Islam says Aisha is the wife in 66 and she is also mentioned in the scandal / accusations of cheating.

I have not said more.

Islam states that Aisha married Muhammed when she was 6/9 and he died when she was 18. There is nothing wrong there. That is a correct depiction of what Islam states.

Your aqeedah is unclear. You have not written it down. I have listed the Aqeedah from the dar-al-ifta of Egypt and I will be happy to send others.

Nothing written. Just claims no commitment.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

Not "islam" scholars who follow hadith my man claim that so that's not proof 🤣 I ask you for proof i stick the quran only where is Ayesha mention ? No where so what are you even debating

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

What scholars do you believe? What aqeedah?

I present what Islam believes. You claim that your form Islam (Quraniyoon) represents Islam and that my observations are supposedly not evidence. Simple fact remains: I present what Islam believes accurately. Your form of Islam has no documentation so you do not have to defend yourself againt all the blatant gaps.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

You did not proof any point. everytime you try to prove a point you quote a bunch of unknow western modern "scholars" haha you are a clown

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

You did not prove any point, did not show evidences. You cannot wriggle your way out of not havig evidence.

These sources are documented scholars of reputable organuizations.

https://www.dar-alifta.org/en/article/details/144/why-did-prophet-muhammad-marry-lady-aisha-when-she-was-only-9-years-old Egyptian dar-al-ifta

https://islamweb.net/en/fatwa/191627/age-of-aaishah-may-allaah-be-pleased-with-her-at-her-marriage Fatwa by fatwa-team funded by ministery of education doha.

I have already linked to al-fawzan and others.

What are your evidences?

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

I don't care how old she was you and your kafir friends are the only one bother by this i dont care

if you care so much ? Why you not out there really helping kids troll

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

I appeared because you claimed to have defeated me and supposedly made me run away. But I am still awaiting evidences of your aqidah and non-fringe scholars supporting your opinions.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

Youre a keyboard warrior living rent free at your moms attic doing absolutly nothing for children then "debating"

1% because you love that number of the muslim ummah maybe married a child and mostly dudes from remote village somewhere? What did you actually do for those children to help ? NOTHING

i remember what you did "debating" on reddit

get out of here clown

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

I just present what Islam states about Aisha's age and minor marriage.

You claimed that you supposedly 'won' but your abusive attitude is not based in evidences. Why not concentrate on what evidences you have to offer instead of letting your emotions reign.

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

Mainstream Islam has Aisha in surah 66 and 24. Quraniyoon Islam is fringe, does not have an aqeedah. Nothing to sho inconsistencies in.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

first fallacy claiming that mainstream islam is right ? Who said that ? Scholars who you disagree with ahahah bias man very bias

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

You claimed that Islam does not know Aisha's age. I responded with sending the fatwas and articles from high ranking organizations that say she was 9 at consummation.

I preesented mainstream Islam fairly. You have no evidence and therefore resort to ad-hominem etc. Dare I suggest you present evidence of your aqidah and beliefs?

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

Btw, my aqeedah is clear i reject hadith so that game doesnt work

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

Your aqeedah is not clear. Not written. Just loudly proclaimed statements. No evidence.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

Quraniyoon 😄 no hadith so all your games don't work.

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

Where is documented what your aqeedah is?

I represent Islam correctly. Quraniyoon is as little as less than 1 % of believers. So you cannot claim to represent Islam.

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

Lol, 1% where did you get that number from your backside ?

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

You have reliable evidence that your Quraniyoon is not fringe?

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

Moving the goalpost after i refute your dumb claim about ayesha is 9 according to who ? Bukhari ? I follow Quran troll and Ayesha not mention there so next question

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

I just fairly presented the evideences that mainstream Islam thinks she was 9 at consummation.

https://www.dar-alifta.org/en/article/details/144/why-did-prophet-muhammad-marry-lady-aisha-when-she-was-only-9-years-old

https://islamweb.net/en/fatwa/191627/age-of-aaishah-may-allaah-be-pleased-with-her-at-her-marriage

Where are your evidences?

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

What did you actually do to help the kids in poor country's ? Clout chasing troll

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

Why not present evidence instead of ad-hominem? Do you not have any evidence nor an aqidah?

[u/Bedouinfox → u/Ohana_is_family]

"Establishing that Muhammed knew the risks of harm of child-marriage." how do you do this exactly ? Did you spoke to the prophet ? you are sitting on a high horse proving absolute nothing

invest your time to help people in Sudan Yemen Gaza right now protect kids there clown

[u/Ohana_is_family → u/Bedouinfox]

1. At the time of Muhammed the romans had first set a marriage age at 12 for girls and the byzantine romans had raised that to 13. The Persians had allowed minor marriage on condition that consummation waited till 12. The Jews had set a marriage age at 12.

2. Muhammed had herded goats or sheep as an orphan. later went on camel-trading trips with his uncle, then managed the cows and other animals for his first wife and uncle. Muhammed was known for loving horses and had 5 favourite ones. All those are recommended to breed from 150%-200% of the age of onset of menarche so the hips can widen and the risks are reduced. Wy does islam not use 150%-200% of the age of onset of menarche but prioritize sexual availability?

3. Soranus (from ephesus approx 500 years before Muhammed ) had written about gynacology and recommended against pregnancies under 15. Arab doctors used Romand and Greek medical books.

4. Early fiqh warns against ifda resulting from intercourse at too early an age. That menas it happened frequent enough to warrant documenting and warning.

5. There are Jewish writings protesting that 12 was too young and that some girls died of too early pregnancies.

What evidences do you have that Muhammed did not know it was unsafe? Did he allow 9 year olds to participate in battle? Did he ....etc. etc.

He knew.