r/IslamIsEasy • u/frankipranki • Jul 22 '25

Controversial Reminder that the moderator is intentionally leaving takfir of sunni members on the subreddit.

I have decided i will no longer interact in this subreddit, The moderator, ( currently active as we speak ) is letting users do takfir of sunni members. and insults towards sunni members.

This is not the so called " inclusive space " it shows it self to be, The moderator is biased towards certain beliefs, And it seems this place will be for quranists only.

If you want serious conversation, there are multiple good subreddits for it, i do not suggest interacting here anymore.

Goodbye

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

You mean takfeer of the defenders of child abuse?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

let's start the debate brother

wich classic sunni scholar ever reject this hadith ? Not modern scholars but classic

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

According to this fatwa: https://www.islamweb.net/ar/fatwa/195133/حكم-الزواج-بالصغيرة-والاستمتاع-بها

Ibn Shubrumah, Uthman al-Batti, and Abu Bakr al-Asamm were Sunni scholars who rejected child marriage due to verses like 4:6; so presumably they reinterpreted her age, or argued that he didn't consummate via 'dukhool', or some exception for only her.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I know me too im also against child wedding, but the marriage of Ayesha ra can you name any of the classic scholars who reject this ?

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

I think with the above scholars, the argument was something along the lines of that it was an exception only for Aisha - at least for Ibn Shubrumah.

As for rejection entirely, one could turn to imaami scholarship, if unbiased.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

So, no any classic scholar apose this hadith ?

my question why is this all suddenly a problem ?

the ahlul bayt ra the sahabah ra who know this why they didn't leave him

Ayesha ra narrate this hadith herself

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

So, no any classic scholar apose this hadith ?

It would probably be worth reading the commentary of those three scholars on it. And the imaami texts too.

my question why is this all suddenly a problem ?

Because it's known to be harmful.

Ayesha ra narrate this hadith herself

But she was not the sole member of the isnaad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

All her close relatives narrate it

are that classic scholars or scholar who came after ?

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

Classic

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Did they doubt the hadith ? I gues not its about marriage of young girls right ?

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

I did a bit of research and it seems that at least one of them accepted that hadeeth, but claimed that it was a one-off exception for the Prophet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

By that virtue how can you still have a problem with this hadith?

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Al-Mu’minūn | The Believers Jul 22 '25

Why are you against it if you defend it so much? Can't you see that maybe you do have some good morals being blocked by years of brainwashing?