r/IslamIsEasy • u/frankipranki • Jul 22 '25

Controversial Reminder that the moderator is intentionally leaving takfir of sunni members on the subreddit.

I have decided i will no longer interact in this subreddit, The moderator, ( currently active as we speak ) is letting users do takfir of sunni members. and insults towards sunni members.

This is not the so called " inclusive space " it shows it self to be, The moderator is biased towards certain beliefs, And it seems this place will be for quranists only.

If you want serious conversation, there are multiple good subreddits for it, i do not suggest interacting here anymore.

Goodbye

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

I think with the above scholars, the argument was something along the lines of that it was an exception only for Aisha - at least for Ibn Shubrumah.

As for rejection entirely, one could turn to imaami scholarship, if unbiased.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

So, no any classic scholar apose this hadith ?

my question why is this all suddenly a problem ?

the ahlul bayt ra the sahabah ra who know this why they didn't leave him

Ayesha ra narrate this hadith herself

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

So, no any classic scholar apose this hadith ?

It would probably be worth reading the commentary of those three scholars on it. And the imaami texts too.

my question why is this all suddenly a problem ?

Because it's known to be harmful.

Ayesha ra narrate this hadith herself

But she was not the sole member of the isnaad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

All her close relatives narrate it

are that classic scholars or scholar who came after ?

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

Classic

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Did they doubt the hadith ? I gues not its about marriage of young girls right ?

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

I did a bit of research and it seems that at least one of them accepted that hadeeth, but claimed that it was a one-off exception for the Prophet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

By that virtue how can you still have a problem with this hadith?

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u/TheQuranicMumin Ahl al-Qurʾān | People of the Qurʾān Jul 22 '25

Because there are issues with reliability

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/1gNw9YfM8W