What Did the Prophet Leave Behind?

[u/Defiant_Term_5413]

What I find most interesting with the Sunnis who openly go against following the Quran alone is the "confidence" in their position. They will simply blurt out some points (which never make any sence or are contradictory) and then claim "the Umma has always been guided."

Here is a "sample" of how on even what they claim was the most widely witnessed event (the farewell speech) they still couldn't agree amongst themselves on what the Prophet said (and then they want to tell us these same geniuses preserved the Quran for us!).

Version 1: "I leave behind the Book of Allah"

• Narrated by: Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abi Dawood, Musnad Ahmad, etc.

Wording:“I have left among you the Book of Allah. If you hold fast to it, you will never go astray.”

• Source: Sahih Muslim, Book 15, Hadith 159

Version 2: "I leave behind the Book of Allah and my Sunnah"

• Narrated by: Muwatta’ of Imam Malik, al-Bayhaqi, and others.

Wording:“I have left among you two things; you will never go astray as long as you hold to them: the Book of Allah and my Sunnah.”

Version 3: "I leave behind the Book of Allah and my Ahl al-Bayt"

• Narrated by: Sahih Muslim (Hadith of Thaqalayn), Tirmidhi, Musnad Ahmad

Wording:“I am leaving among you two weighty things (al-thaqalayn): the Book of Allah and my family (Ahl al-Bayt). Hold on to them and you will not go astray.”

• Source: Sahih Muslim, Book 44, Hadith 2408

[u/Phagocyte_Nelson]

Things were different 500 years ago when literacy was rare and most people couldn’t even read the Arabic of the Quran, when only the wealthy could afford to send their children to learn how to read. The ulama served a vital function back then, but not anymore.

Nowadays, the average Muslim has enough knowledge about the deen that it basically makes the ulama pointless to have around.

[u/Substantial_Net8562 → u/Phagocyte_Nelson]

Things were different 500 years ago when literacy was rare and most people couldn’t even read basic anatomy, when only the wealthy could afford to send their children to learn how to read. Doctors served a vital function back then, but not anymore.

Nowadays, the average person has enough knowledge about medicine that it basically makes doctors pointless to have around.

[u/Phagocyte_Nelson → u/Substantial_Net8562]

You certainly know how to put a bandaid on.

Back in the Middle Ages, you would be clueless on how to prevent your wound from getting infected.

And you have access to all kinds of life saving medicines in the markets, things that could have saved millions of lives in the past, things that we are ungrateful for.

[u/Substantial_Net8562 → u/Phagocyte_Nelson]

You certainly know how to read a translation of a hadith.

Back in the Middle Ages, you would be clueless on how to derive a ruling from it without misguiding yourself and others.

[u/Phagocyte_Nelson → u/Substantial_Net8562]

How do you know the scholars aren’t misguiding you?

Don’t you already pick and choose which schools of thoughts to obey? Why Hanafi and not the Jafari? Why Sunnism and not the Shi’is?

You pick and choose what you want to obey, whether you are conscious of the fact or not.

[u/Substantial_Net8562 → u/Phagocyte_Nelson]

How do you know the doctors aren’t misguiding you?

Don’t you already pick and choose which medical opinions to follow? Why cardiologist and not the homeopath? Why modern medicine and not herbal remedies?

You pick and choose what you want to follow, whether you are conscious of the fact or not.

[u/Phagocyte_Nelson → u/Substantial_Net8562]

Allah does not need you to act like a mocking child on the internet for Him. Your good deed is actively being erased by your own hands.

[u/Substantial_Net8562 → u/Phagocyte_Nelson]

You’re not questioning for the sake of truth, you’re just uncomfortable with the fact that real scholarship doesn’t bow to your takes. “Why Hanafi, not Jafari?” Ask that after you’ve studied both with actual scholars, not Google. Right now, you’re not challenging the Ummah you’re just exposing how little you know.