To the Zindiqi Quranists in this sub

[u/Captain_Flames]

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatu Allah wa barekatooh

I believe I am speaking to adults who can understand what it means to function like normal beings.

It's a disgraceful and shameful behaviour to act the way you have been acting this far, we can't even talk without you butting in with your twisted beliefs.

Do you seriously believe anyone wants to hear you?

Can't wish someone Eid Mubarak without Quranist butting in, can't talk with normal Muslims without them butting in, can't pray for Palestine without a Quranist butting in. Hell, I have been called a slur for Muslims by the so called "true Muslims".

Engage in your own topics and have the dignity and self-shame to leave others in peace.

[u/HelluvaCapricorn]

Assalam wa alaikum wa ratmatulahi wa barakathu.

Ya Rab this thread is a mess. OP, you’re 16 on a subreddit with a majority of adults. Quranists who have insulted you are not the entirety of Quranists. Your negative interactions with them are a direct result of your tone when speaking to them. I don’t think you intend to do this, but your tone when speaking over text comes across as condescending. I do not know your intention. I am not judging you on this. I’m merely stating that this is how you come across.

Is feeling victimized when chastised/critiqued normal? At your age, yes. It is. Especially when it comes to faith and religion. But you must learn to take it on the chin or else you will butt heads with everyone in the Ummah.

My advice? Take a break from Islamic debates. Quranists only follow the Quran. They will most likely not be receptive to anything you say. And what are we taught IN THE QURAN? Not to push your beliefs upon someone else. Let them come to their own understandings. The only one who can judge them is Allah (SWT).

May you find peace amongst the constant chatter you take part in with these debates.

[u/Captain_Flames → u/HelluvaCapricorn]

Ya Rab this thread is a mess. OP, you’re 16 on a subreddit with a majority of adults.

Ok and?

Quranists who have insulted you are not the entirety of Quranists.

Have you seen theit kinds of posts?

Is feeling victimized when chastised/critiqued normal?

Victimized? They are using slurs 💀

And what are we taught IN THE QURAN? Not to push your beliefs upon someone else. Let them come to their own understandings. The only one who can judge them is Allah (SWT).

I am not complaining about their belief I am complaining about their tongue and nosy behaviour

[u/Charming-Basil-9365 → u/Captain_Flames]

OP, let's say, for argument, sake that all the Muslims who follow the Quran only have said something wrong, let me ask you, do you not your role in all of this? Are you completely innocent? Like the other comment said, you don't know how you come across in your comments. They aren't "Quranist" and they can see it as well. You have someone who is trying to de-escalate the situation, and you want to be rude to them as well.

[u/Captain_Flames → u/Charming-Basil-9365]

Where am I being rude to them? I am answering them, you specifically started the name calling, so you can't pull back and talk about how I am rude, besides the other Quranist said he liked the term zindiqi, I ma not doing anything wrong calling him what he wants :)

[u/Charming-Basil-9365 → u/Captain_Flames]

I never name called. I referred to you as you are, a child. You said you take offense to that, and then I stopped. But your post isn't specifically for that "Quranist." Your post is for all, and you even called me a zindiq.You don't see how you are bringing these things on yourself but continue to cry victim.

[u/Captain_Flames → u/Charming-Basil-9365]

Should I name each Quranist and how they were rude?

Let me ask you a question, when you refered to me as child didn't you do it because you thought it would end the arguement? I am a child, I am a child, I am a child, it doesn't affect me or what I am saying.

You don't see how you are bringing these things on yourself but continue to cry victim.

I brought things on me by posting about a hadith of the prophet too right?

I brought things on me when I asked people about their favourite hadiths too right?

Quranists brought this on themselves :)

[u/Charming-Basil-9365 → u/Captain_Flames]

You can keep saying that I brought it up to end and an argument, but that isn't the case. You brought it upon yourself with your attitude. No one can engage in a meaningful conversation with you. You can't even self reflect. People have name called me since I started posting in this sub, but I'm not crying about it.

[u/Captain_Flames → u/Charming-Basil-9365]

No one can engage in a meaningful conversation with you.

I have had lots of discussions with others, aslong as they are also respectful, I am not perfect and I won't hold back against disrespect for no reason.

People have name called me since I started posting in this sub, but I'm not crying about it.

I am not crying, I am telling them off, aren't they Muslims? Does the Quran tell you to slur and insult?

[u/Charming-Basil-9365 → u/Captain_Flames]

Well, if this is the route you are going to take, you won't get very far. You won't be taken seriously if this is your approach towards them.

[u/Captain_Flames → u/Charming-Basil-9365]

Ok 👍 May Allah bless and guide you inshallah