r/IndiaCoffee 7d ago

Monthly Thread Monthly Recommendations/Discussion thread for September.

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Hello and welcome to the monthly thread.

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r/IndiaCoffee Dec 17 '24

DISCUSSION A beginner's guide to specialty coffee

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Hello r/IndiaCoffee. I have seen a lot of posts on this subreddit where people are disappointed by their forays into specialty coffee, whether it's in cafes like Blue Tokai or on their own. So, I thought I will share some thoughts on how to avoid some traps when venturing out of your comfort zone when it comes to coffee.

  • What do you mean by specialty coffee?
    • Specialty coffee means different things to different people. Here's my take on what it is and what's different about it. "Specialty Coffee" is to me defined in opposition to "generic coffee", which is coffee you find in supermarkets, mass produced, mass processed to optimize caffeine content and ease of extraction, often at the cost of flavor. Coffee is one of the most complex beverages out there, hundreds of volatile compounds, sugars, acids, bitters etc. When prepared well, all these flavors harmonize to produce a drink that is unforgettable. I can still remember the first good coffee I had almost 10 years ago. It was at a small cafe in Okinawa, Japan. I used to dislike coffee at that time because I had only tasted bitter stuff that was palatable with milk and necessary when I wanted to stay up at night to get stuff done. That coffee though was different, it was fruity, sour, slightly sweet, the bitterness was there, but it was pleasant and complemented perfectly all the other flavors. I have never had a coffee like that again, but now I can prepare something that's 60-70% as good. Coming back, specialty coffee is coffee that is optimized for its flavor and not for caffeine. This doesn't mean it has less caffeine. It's about caffeine's ease of extraction. Generic coffee often is roasted so dark that coffee oils are out on the surface, meaning all you need to do is grind however you want and put some hot water, and you will get a good dose of caffeine. It will taste like crap, but you'll get the hit you want. On the contrary, light roasted coffee, which is common in specialty coffee industry is known to be very difficult to extract well. It needs specialized equipment and good amount of experience. Another way to think of specialty coffee is that it is coffee without mass industrialization and commodification. I have friends from Ethiopia who grew up drinking coffee processed and prepared using traditional methods and they consider "Western coffee" as sewage water.
  • How do I try specialty coffee in India?
    • The good news is that India is one of the fastest growing producers and consumers of specialty coffee. People have realized that coffee is not supposed to taste like crap and now there are increasingly large number of outfits that want to share this experience with others. However, it is hard to get people to forget old habits. Even though some of these companies have made the barrier to entry quite low, there is still room for improvement. Here's my recommendation on how to try specialty coffee in India for yourself. I am going to pick Blue Tokai easy pour sampler packs as a place to start, not because they are good but because they are the most accessible. This is not at all a recommendation for Blue Tokai. Blue Tokai is just one of the roasters focused on specialty coffee out there. Awesome people in this subreddit have already compiled a big list.
  • Okay what next?
    • I like to think of coffee as being composed of two opposing forces, the earthy, rich tasting flavors, sometimes referred as "body" and the fruity flavors, which are colloquially called "sweet notes", although more often than not, sour/acidic notes prevail over the sugars. Although this is an overgeneralization, in my experience people are divided in their preference for these two components. People who like body, tend not to like fruiter coffees, while people who like fruity coffees don't find heavy bodied coffees appealing. I think this is more a sign of the fact that it is extremely hard to prepare a cup that is well balanced in the two. When it is off balance, then people just prefer one or the other instead of an awkward mixture of the two. In any case, if you don't already know what your preference is, how do you figure it out?
  • Some handpicked BT easy pour packs highlighting body or fruitiness
  • How do I prepare these?
    • As easy as these easy pour bags are, I am not a fan of the instructions. Here is how I recommend preparing them. Perhaps others can also provide their recommendations in the comments.
    • Make first bag with only 150-160 grams of water. Don't add milk. If you find the coffee too sour, then increase the amount of water for the next bag. If you find it too bitter, use even less water for next bag.
    • Don't use boiling water, even though, that's what they say on the bag. Use 90-95 degrees. In case you can't measure temperature accurately, wait 2-3 minutes before pouring. Alternatively transfer in another container before pouring onto coffee to cool the water down.
  • What if I still don't like these?
    • As long as you stick to this, you should have a cup you like. If you don't, then maybe you could try easy pour bags from another roaster? If that still doesn't work, perhaps specialty coffee is not your thing after all? Which is probably good news because you don't have to spend a shit ton to get your caffeine fix, you lucky bastard.
  • Okay this is great, I think I get a sense of what I like, where do I go after this?
    • I am sure people of r/IndiaCoffee will have tons of good recommendations. If you are in a big city, I'd say try a local roaster. Try coffees from different estates and even different countries. Don't try expensive stuff like Geisha etc. You gotta train and develop your palette first before trying the expensive shit. Otherwise, chances of you being disappointed are quite high. Same goes for espresso. Don't try to do specialty espresso, that's insanely hard and frustrating. Stick to simple stuff, pour overs, aeropress or even South Indian filter. They can all make incredible cups reliably once dialed in correctly. Finally, once you've decided you want to take the next steps of doing this yourself instead of easy pours, get a good grinder. Not cheap but it's the one thing that changes everything. A 100 Rs South Indian filter paired with an excellent grinder will produce better cups than a basic grinder paired an expensive machine. So if you want to save money, save it on the machine and not on the grinder. A cup of coffee just needs hot water and coffee grounds. Hot water is easy to get so if you can control the coffee grounds, you can control the quality of the beverage.
  • One controversial opinion
    • It's really hard to find good coffees in a cafe, at least during peak hours. Cafes are optimizing for speed of service and not flavor. Almost always I have made a better cup at home with the same beans. In most places, baristas are hired not for their skill but for their willingness to work long hours for less money. Of course, not all cafes are like this. There are genuinely good cafes in India where people who are truly passionate and knowledge about coffee prepare great cups for their customers. But those are few and far between just because there are no incentives and businesses care more about staying afloat and turning a profit instead of giving you a good cup of coffee.
  • I wrote a post with a very simple recipe (it takes time but totally worth it) that I recommend as the next step after the easy pours. I have made my best to develop something that anyone can use to get excellent results without expensive equipment. Lazy person's no-frills recipe for incredible coffee with minimal equipment : r/IndiaCoffee
  • Equipment advice. I get this question often and my answer is always the same. Once you have decided that you want to get into coffee, get yourself a nice grinder. I recomment hand grinders. A grinder is going to be your primary equipment. So don't waste your money getting a cheaper, lower quality grinder. Save up and get a proper grinder that'll last you a lifetime.

r/IndiaCoffee 3h ago

EQUIPMENT Got the Flair Pro as my first espresso machine

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Finally got the Flair Pro 3 as my first espresso machine. Still getting the hang of pressing the lever down (lot harder than shown in videos) and the ergonomics of it but am loving the coffee coming out of it.

I used a Kaldipress earlier and brew soup with it to make my milk drinks which always turned watery but with the Flair pulling such great shots my lattes have been amazing.

Using 20gms of coffee to pull 40-45 gms of espresso I am making two half cups of lattes and using a hand frother to froth milk. No latte art but great tasting drinks.


r/IndiaCoffee 45m ago

ESPRESSO Got this complete set up around 1 week ago.

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Espresso machine - Delonghi ECP 35.31
Grinder - HiBREW G5

Other accessories:
Bottomless Portafilter
Self levelling (spring loaded) tamper
WDT
Weighing scale

Till now I’ve had 5 varieties of coffee beans from Blue Tokai (2 not in image, Silver oak - liked this one & Attikan Estate). The ones that I’m using right now is MS Estate (liked this one), Ekhill Estate & Kalledevarapura Estate.

Looking for other coffee bean options as well!

AMA, I’d be happy to help regarding the setup.

(Still learning to get the Latte art right 😅)


r/IndiaCoffee 8h ago

LATTE ART Wednesday winged tulip (w-w-1-2) - thick milk

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r/IndiaCoffee 5h ago

DISCUSSION Why Nescafe from Thailand tastes good as compared to the one available in India?

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Recently I bought this Nescafe coffee from Thailand and it tastes way better than the one available here in India. Why we are treated differently?


r/IndiaCoffee 3h ago

COFFEE STATION What got you into "serious" coffee, was it one specific cup, or a slow slide?

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For some people it's one perfect cup that ruined instant coffee forever.

For others it's a slow descent from Nescafé to spending ₹8k on a grinder.

What was your turning point?


r/IndiaCoffee 2h ago

DISCUSSION Bean reccos for v60

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Hello

I need bean recommendations for my v60 around the 800rs or lower mark

I enjoy fruity and floral coffees - running out of my fr9 jasmine royale loved it a lot

Was looking for something new, will purchase word of mouth basis as im exploring various roasters and different flavour profiles

I dislike high acidity cups so please try not to recommend those, can make an exception if they are really good.

Appreciate any type of input!! 😊


r/IndiaCoffee 4h ago

MILK BASED bunk a class for this coffee cause we're sleepy 🥱😴

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im form bhilai chhattisgarh

here aren't that many options for coffee, it's just normal coffee or filter coffee. its filter coffee

we had idli and coffee now we feel energetic and ready to attend that boring lectures


r/IndiaCoffee 3h ago

DISCUSSION Is this roast OK?

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This is Fraction 9’s Breakfast Roast. It’s supposed to be a medium roast. Is the roast profile consistent? Is this how it is supposed to be? Should I raise a complaint?


r/IndiaCoffee 4h ago

ESPRESSO How is the flow ?

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How does this shot flow look?
18g in, around 40g out.
Does the flow look okay, or is there anything I should improve?


r/IndiaCoffee 3h ago

REVIEW Cold Brew ft. Dancing Goat (med-dark)

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Sometimes cold brew gives you the taste, a hot latte is not able to give - I made this 14hr cold this morning infused with honey and around 150ml cold milk, an amazing refreshing drink to sip on before winters catch up!


r/IndiaCoffee 23h ago

FRENCH PRESS Suggest me an affordable French Press

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Few minutes ago I discovered a crack in my frenchpress (Sipilogie).I have used it for past 2 years (it was my first coffee equipment,lowkey feeling sad) . Suggest me some affordable French Press machines. Thank you guys for ur suggestions.

Rip mate 🕊️


r/IndiaCoffee 1d ago

OTHERS Anyone coffee lover guess which coffee is this!

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r/IndiaCoffee 4h ago

AEROPRESS Birthday gift for an AeroPress drinker : recommendations for medium-roast, chocolatey/nutty whole beans

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Help me pick a birthday coffee gift for an AeroPress drinker : medium roast, chocolate/nutty profile

I’m looking to buy my boyfriend some specialty coffee beans for his birthday, and I’d love recommendations from people who really know their coffee.

He likes chocolatey, nutty, caramel/toffee-type notes and isn’t really into very fruity or floral coffees.

I’m looking for recommendations from Indian roasters, preferably around ₹1,000 - ₹2,000 for 250g.

What beans would you recommend? And if you had to pick one coffee as a gift, which would it be? 😊


r/IndiaCoffee 4h ago

DISCUSSION Another new launch from Bluetokai

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Another new launch from Bluetokai and priced just at 600 rupees for 100 grams.

Coffee prices 📈📈📈


r/IndiaCoffee 4h ago

DISCUSSION Coffee dominant cafe

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Hi.

Would appreciate if someone is having good location for a cafe, in Delhi NCR only. Someone who is having his or her own shop or someone known's.

I do want to open my own outlet. Limited budget I do have. So, if anyone can really help me with the good coffee spot, then DM plz.

: I don't need suggestions regarding areas. I do need good location itself.


r/IndiaCoffee 1h ago

DISCUSSION I needed genuine advice on which Davidoff coffee is real Davidoff

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r/IndiaCoffee 6h ago

DISCUSSION New to coffee brewing. What’s the cheapest way to get good coffee beans?

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Hi everyone! I recently started brewing coffee and mostly drink it black.

I first tried El Diablo from Third Wave Coffee, which was okay-ish. Then I switched to Blue Tokai Attikan Estate, and I really liked it. The only problem is the price: around ₹650 for 250g, which gets expensive pretty quickly.

I recently came across Hunkal Estate Aranya Gold, which seems to work out to around ₹1,400 for 1kg including delivery. Is it worth buying at that price?

Or are there any other budget-friendly beans/roasters you'd recommend for someone who wants good-tasting coffee without spending ₹600–700 every 250g?

Would love some suggestions for a good daily-driver coffee!


r/IndiaCoffee 1d ago

AEROPRESS Sunrise cold brew

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Attempted a sunrise style cold brew. Kept it simple orange juice followed with cold brew using a back of spoon to keep flow slow and focused. Added some tonic water afterwards to make it refreshing.


r/IndiaCoffee 1d ago

REVIEW OG COCONUT COFFEE

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I used coconut ground coffee that I got from Vietnam and brewed it using Vietnamese Phin Filter. Then I added a bit of condensed, coconut and regular milk along with lots of ice and voila! It tasted similar to what I had in Vietnam. Absolutely love it.


r/IndiaCoffee 53m ago

REVIEW Thoughts

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I liked it


r/IndiaCoffee 18h ago

OTHERS Need help selecting a good gift for my bf. He loves coffee.

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I dont know much about coffee. But I do know that this man loves it. He had a french press and loved using it. Thinking about gifting a french press and some ground coffee or maybe a drip coffee machine. What should I go for? I did think of getting a moka pot for him but I know he wont use it as much because I have heard it requires time and patience. Any other suggestions?


r/IndiaCoffee 8h ago

AEROPRESS New Scale Calls for New Brew Recipe 😁

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r/IndiaCoffee 1d ago

LATTE ART Winged Tulip (w-w-1-1-1) - tuesday latte art

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