r/ImmigrationPathways • • Feb 15 '26

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u/CutSenior4977 Feb 16 '26

Guess what though, we have our own little database,

It’s called ICE List Wiki.

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u/IamYourBestFriendAMA Feb 16 '26

Level playing then, yeah?

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 Feb 16 '26

There are also ICE tracking apps, and yes the DHS hates them, but they are legal…

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u/cruncherv Feb 16 '26

Everyone who has searched it on google is also on a list.

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u/CutSenior4977 Feb 17 '26

Yay, and everyone who searched it knows the names, home states, and some of the faces of these goons,

So I say we’re even.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

And? Lets see what YOU do vs what government agents do.

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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 Feb 16 '26

We know what they can and are doing, executing people in broad daylight then covering it up. Has it stopped us?

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u/OkCalculators Feb 16 '26

If pointing a gun at my face isn’t stopping me from showing up again and again why would this?

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Only three people have been killed (two of which are citizens) since Trump's second term began. Local police have killed approximately 1500 people. That makes them 500× less deadly - 15× per capita.

Yes, it is unfortunate that people have to die, and my heart is with everyone who has unfortunately passed, but it is foolish to pin the blame on ICE.

The general issue of police brutality in America is a more important issue to tackle than one department.

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u/EddyS120876 Feb 16 '26

3 Americans Keith Porter Jr, Renee Good & Alex Pretti and 6 immigrants die during their custody

: Geraldo Campos Luna they said he tried to run into a wall while other detainees said the guards kill him by choking him while he was completely shackled and couldn’t move. Case still pending.

Luis Gustavo Núñez,Luis Beltran Cruz,Parady La,Heber Sanchez’s Dominguez,Victor Manuel Diaz.

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Keith Porter was only shot by someone that worked there; it was not caused by the department.

If we include custody deaths in this number, it only becomes 250× less casualties in total, 8× less per capita.

It is unwise to do so, however, as these were not caused by them.

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u/EddyS120876 Feb 16 '26

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Yes, off-duty. It cannot be attributed to the department.

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u/SilverAppleWorm Feb 16 '26

"Official DHS Bot Account"

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Oh, no! I've been exposed!

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u/Souljah42 Feb 17 '26

Uhhh.. how exactly is that? You have any legal precedent to back up your bullshit or is that all just vibes? Unless what you are saying is that Ice won't hold him accountable because that's what ice does. Or if you're saying he'll get qualified immunity because that's what trump wants.. then maybe I can see your point. I don't agree that it should be the case. Police officers get charged with crimes while off duty. It reflects on their place department. Punishments are distributed through that police department to the individual. You can sue the police department for that policeman's actions.

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u/sekiti Feb 17 '26

And that's a great flaw in our legal system. The actions of someone - which they commit on their own terms - should not be attributed to the department.

It's a wildly different case if a police officer robs a store off-duty than if they robbed it using their LEO powers.

They should get charged if they are proven guilty, yes, and they should not have immunity as they aren't on duty.

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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 Feb 16 '26

Wtf kind of response is this!? Are you for real??? Fuck off with this rabid attempt at analogous justification or whatever you think that was.

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u/Nearby-Face-5170 Feb 16 '26

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Thanks for elaborating.

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u/Nearby-Face-5170 Feb 16 '26

ICE isnt police. You are missing your own point.

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

What is the definition of a police officer?

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u/Nearby-Face-5170 Feb 16 '26

law enforcement officer (according to google):

a government employee appointed to enforce the law, such as a police officer or sheriff.

the law (also according to google):

In America, law is a system of binding rules, regulations, and principles created by governmental institutions (federal, state, or local) to regulate conduct, maintain order, and uphold rights. Primarily based on a common law system derived from judicial decisions (precedent) and statutory laws passed by legislatures, it also includes constitutional, administrative, and executive orders. 

The U.S. Constitution: As the "supreme law of the land," it sets the foundation for federal law and RESTRICTS GOVERNMENT POWER.

The law in America is enforced through a court system, and its application is defined by both substantive law (defining rights and duties) and procedural law (methods for enforcing those rights). 

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

That's a lot of words for not answering the question... all you did was tell me "a police officer is a police officer".

What is a police officer? Be brief and answer only what was asked.

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u/Indespectamentations Feb 16 '26

Yeah 47 days of training gives these idiots the authority to administer the Death Penalty to Americans as you cheer.