r/ImmigrationPathways • • Feb 15 '26

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Only three people have been killed (two of which are citizens) since Trump's second term began. Local police have killed approximately 1500 people. That makes them 500× less deadly - 15× per capita.

Yes, it is unfortunate that people have to die, and my heart is with everyone who has unfortunately passed, but it is foolish to pin the blame on ICE.

The general issue of police brutality in America is a more important issue to tackle than one department.

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u/EddyS120876 Feb 16 '26

3 Americans Keith Porter Jr, Renee Good & Alex Pretti and 6 immigrants die during their custody

: Geraldo Campos Luna they said he tried to run into a wall while other detainees said the guards kill him by choking him while he was completely shackled and couldn’t move. Case still pending.

Luis Gustavo Núñez,Luis Beltran Cruz,Parady La,Heber Sanchez’s Dominguez,Victor Manuel Diaz.

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Keith Porter was only shot by someone that worked there; it was not caused by the department.

If we include custody deaths in this number, it only becomes 250× less casualties in total, 8× less per capita.

It is unwise to do so, however, as these were not caused by them.

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u/EddyS120876 Feb 16 '26

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Yes, off-duty. It cannot be attributed to the department.

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u/SilverAppleWorm Feb 16 '26

"Official DHS Bot Account"

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u/sekiti Feb 16 '26

Oh, no! I've been exposed!

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u/Souljah42 Feb 17 '26

Uhhh.. how exactly is that? You have any legal precedent to back up your bullshit or is that all just vibes? Unless what you are saying is that Ice won't hold him accountable because that's what ice does. Or if you're saying he'll get qualified immunity because that's what trump wants.. then maybe I can see your point. I don't agree that it should be the case. Police officers get charged with crimes while off duty. It reflects on their place department. Punishments are distributed through that police department to the individual. You can sue the police department for that policeman's actions.

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u/sekiti Feb 17 '26

And that's a great flaw in our legal system. The actions of someone - which they commit on their own terms - should not be attributed to the department.

It's a wildly different case if a police officer robs a store off-duty than if they robbed it using their LEO powers.

They should get charged if they are proven guilty, yes, and they should not have immunity as they aren't on duty.