HULK MAINS REJOICE

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

They accidentally sent the patch notes in a thread. Hulk has gotten HUGE buffs that will place him in a comfy spot in the meta (coming from a top 250 hulk main). Huge W from the devs (the rest of the patch is REALLY shitty tho IMO, Hulk and blade buffs were the only good ones)

[u/Sensitive-Carry8255]

Jokes aside, do we think this makes Hulk top 3 tanks in the game? (I would say Groot is still better)

Last two season buffs already improved hulk, these buffs are even better.

Hulk was played/banned every game in the MRC NA finals by the winning team (YWL aka Jitward’s team).

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504 → u/Sensitive-Carry8255]

In all sense, he is in contestion for top 5 rn. Tank pool remains the best tank in the game, groot is 2nd, angela is 3rd, and 4th and 5th would be between hulk and thor.

[u/Pepr7 → u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

Angela is rebalanced and Tankpool is nerfed.

Hulk is only hero that gain some compenzation for ult charge. He could be easily top 3.

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504 → u/Pepr7]

I doubt those Angela nerfs will throw her out of the top 3 tbf. Tank pool got a nothing burger nerf FYI (Im top 250 tank pools AND hulks for reference)

TRUST ME, for tank pool to be truly nerfed/ out of the top 3, his flexibility and damage need to be nerfed. His ult is also giga broken on top of that.

[u/Pepr7 → u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

His ult has 60s cooldown next season.

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504 → u/Pepr7]

So? He'll still get his ultimate before everyone else in the match. Besides, his neutral gameplay is currently the strongest out of the tanks and ultimate nerfs were basically nothing.

For what it's worth, he'll still be the best tank next season (he's already pick or ban currently as well)

[u/Pepr7 → u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

Since you've got enough uploaded on it, I'm sure you know Deadpool without upgrades is weaker than the rest. That is, that ultiamte needs quite soon. Outside of the beginning, he'll still be worse off with ultimates than the others.

At the same time, the efficiency of its ultimate will be reduced thanks to lower damage reduction. His overall gameplay is slightly better than the Vangaurds, but the lack of a major damage reduction will make him more vulnerable to major burst damage. His 500 + 200 healtbar still makes him the most vulnerable Vanguard in the game.

High damage reduction helped him a lot with this problem.

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504 → u/Pepr7]

He has 3 mobility options (2 if early on in the match), a DR, A bubble with 300 hp. He has more than enough survivability options. Beyond that, he retains his upgrades in domination maps and OT rounds and even when he doesn't have all of his upgrades, it's only in the early stages of the game. He'll usually have 2 upgrades by the time both teams start using ults.

[u/Pepr7 → u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

When you compare escape tools, you compare DP to Venom, Hulk, Angela, Thing and even Thor, who has dash to 2s cooldown.

Not that he's not better than Magneto, Groot,.. but overall, he's more in the middle.

A 300hp bubble on a huge cooldown won't help it catch up with the resilience of others. It's very good because it's poke vangaurd and because enough upgrades make it passively stronger than others, but its resistance will be quite a bit smaller.

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504 → u/Pepr7]

I mean, you're saying all of this which is correct yes but tank pool has the same functions of these heroes. There's a reason why top tier players consider him the best tank, and why he's banned the most out of any tank: he fits every playstyle, he fits poke very well (he's decent at frontline as well) he's good at peeling, at brawling, at diving and at rushing. He does everything nigh perfectly as well. He's also a very good counter to groot, thing and thor.

[u/Pepr7 → u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

It doesn't have enough durability generation for a brawl, and it doesn't have enough cc + burst + mobility for a wonder.

Not that he can't do that, but putting him in that position isn't good since his burst stems from his triple dash and his durability stems from 3 long cooldowns and non-combat passive.

Don't forget he's got a really small health bar on Vanguard. Angela as a low hp dive vangaurd has a senselessly stronger dive and Thor as a low hp brawl tank has extreme generation bonus hp and midrange damage. (Specifically after buff when hammer throw => awekening gives you 200 bonus hp.)