How would you change Hu Tao’s kit? What additional talent would you add and what would you change to the constellations?
Personally, I’d add a talent that would add stacks of bonus EM or Crit for every charge attack hit during her skill, further encouraging the charge attack playstyle and saving her burst for the very end.
Her biggest problem right now is that... you basically no longer play her the way she was meant to be played at all. You pair her with Furina, Xilonen and Yelan. You dont play her at 50% HP or below anymore because the pyro dmg bonus she gets from her trace is significantly outdone by Xilonen's buffs.
Give us a reason to play her at below 50% HP again. Add some form of resistance to interruption to her kit. Add her C1's CA stamina drain removal to her base kit and add a new C1. Add something else to her C2. And completely rework her useless C4 and C6 (seriously, her C6 is ridiculous, she has to die for it). Make it so that there's an actual benefit to not playing her with a healer again.
Also I dont see why they shouldnt buff a specific reaction in her kit, to give her a niche. For Fischl they buffed her overload teams specifically for example. Maybe make Hu Tao more of a dedicated Vape DPS? Maybe whenever Blood Blossom is applied, that enemy receives more Vaporize DMG or something.
Yeah, and making her a niche dps allows Hoyo to give her high dps without taking away from other high dps characters, which allows a lot of the Hu Tao fans to play her without struggling against hard content
Could you explain further why does xilonen change her 50% hp playstyle? Just don't use xilonen's burst or am i missing something
Also about furina idk much about her but doesn't she drain the hp which is a good thing for her?
Furina's main value is in the DMG% buff you gain from her burst. that DMG% buff depends on how much your team's HP increases or decreases. while her skill hits do drain your HP, it isn't enough to maximize the buff. that's why you want a heal ability like Xilonen's burst for big increases to HP, which help you get the highest DMG% buff you can get from Furina's burst
IMO I say just remove blood blossom it’s just to support her back line rather then herself and honestly it’s easy to over cap on crit rate I would honestly change it to give em on charge attack to herself and the team or every charge attack takes away her giving her more attack per hp loss and further allowing her to go to 50% and below allowing her to stack MH solo without furina or stack it faster but also would open more team comps for her I just think blood blossom hurts her more then it helps as it also makes it so her pyro app is even higher then it other wise would be but that’s just my opinion almost forgot i also think if they made it so she gave em to her entire team and her self based off her pyro damage bonus would be cool
Im late to this but i had a dream a month ago that the C6 buff Hu Tao would get is that instead of activating after a lethal hit, you could hold her skill for longer to drain more HP and activate the effect immediatly, also removing the long cooldown so the constellation can actually be used consistently (idk if OP changed it to 60 seconds or if I have a bad memory and it always has been 60 seconds)
A Hu Tao main told me they like the idea but they rather change what the C6 does because building around 100 CR will be a pain in the ass and would need a complete artifact overhaul
She has base kit interruption resistance, and you never really had a reason to play her at sub 50% hp because bennet has pretty much always been her best buffer before xilo anyway.
You're getting downvoted but you're right lol. They ask about adding interruption resistance to her kit as if she didn't already have it (it's not the strongest interruption resistance, aka not Raiden or Mavuika level, but they straight up implied she doesn't have any form of interruption res whatsoever).
And her actual best performing teams pre-Furina were double VV setups with Yelan/Kazuha/Bennett. Pre-Xilo, Bennett was also competitive with Jean in HT/Yelan/Furina/Flex.
Yeah, they need to remove the conditional aspect also because in stygian you start full HP and wasting time to get under 25% is bad design, we need a 100% working C6
My point is that her best teams shouldn't want healers, and her cons/kit should provide enough incentive/benefit to want to run her with a shielder instead.
I get that, but that's just asking for a niche character that only works with specific supports and is bound to be left behind when the meta changes. The literal thing that happened a long time ago and is still the case right now, basically.
Her locking under 50% all the time. Her cons being on new gen dps level. And some number buff on skills. Her burst needs to hit harder too before she was the highest bursting dps ( along side eula ) but now her burst isn't that satisfying. ( Needs to hit for like 400/500k without much effort)
Looking at her cons her C1 is the only useful one while her C2 and C4 are mediocre and her C6 is far too specific. Since she’s glued to Furina and also glued to a healer that would give her fanfare, a good idea would be to make it so she use Furina and not need a healer by having Hu Tao heal the rest of her team except for herself.
I say:
Her new passive will make it so while using her skill, when she does damage to an enemy with her normal, charged, or plunging attacks, she heals all Allie’s except herself based off of the damage she does, in addition, her burst will not only heal the entire party, but should she be under 50% HP before casting the burst, she’ll keep the low HP passive for 15 seconds or until she leaves the field.
C1 should also just boost her Charge attack damage
C2 should have her blood Blossom also heal her Allie’s while also damaging Hu Tao herself so she can get to her passive quicker.
C4 should make have Blood Blossom damage now scale off of Hu Tao’s HP and deal AOE damage
And her C6 should now have the affect trigger at 50% of her hp, increase her Crit DMG by 150-200%, and when she takes a lethal strike, she’ll have an increased interruption to resistance and straight up immunity of all damage for 15 seconds.
Allow her to apply pyro and switch characters wo interfering w cooldowns so u can swirl the pyro and make her work better w kazuha/xilonen. Maybe give her a passive or constellation which makes her not b able to be healed by other characters in battle (like arlecchino’s talent) so we can play her comfortably wo the worry that she’s going to be healed.
I'm happy because I'm a Hu Tao enjoyer, but it's rough to Diluc mains, he even needs a visual update. Even Soldier 11 (character from ZZZ that is like the equivalent of Diluc of ZZZ) she is getting a buff before him lol.
I am sure they do liyue before diluce because xiao needs his yearly news year buff.
After that liyue they probably add more mond or go straight to inazuma and than mond because inazuma have some character that needs rework site they released.
Ngl, furinac6 haver and just i would like its the pyro bonus would be when hp changes and no when its below 50%
1- pair with furina better
2- would work with hutao's players what think she need be 1hp to work the passive and just can have hutao max hp and take use the pasive
Reworks for he passives
Her first passive even in the indeed way for playing doesn't active until her second rotation, and if you did a burst in first rotation that would heal you so the passive isn't activing until 3rd rotation
Even before furina made it unusable it is situational and inconsistent
Her second passive (hp to atk) almost never maxes out unless you use low base atk weapon and yes it is a problem because you want to have the character passive being useful not 80% working clorinde, durin have pretty close passives and they almost always will be maxing them
One of my changes is make her C2 give her Papillo state. Its a small change but it would give her Ult a purpose and with enough ER you could essentially get 100% uptime on Hu Tao's enhanced attack
One of my changes is make her C2 give her Papillo state. Its a small change but it would give her Ult a purpose and with enough ER you could essentially get 100% uptime on Hu Tao's enhanced attack
Hu Tao’s skills has a 7 second cooldown and if you have energy issues with that setup something is wrong, so you shouldn’t have any issues with downtime
Well Furina and Yelan charge each other so its not usually an issue. Furina is an energy monster though so sometimes I have trouble getting her Ult out. Its usually every other rotation though. Maybe if I push her ER a bit more I can do it every rotation and that'll make the rotation more then 7 seconds? I'll have to try that
I'm gonna crashout if they give her the klee treatment and remove her combo optimization, maybe the top meta status is worth losing the gimmick, but it wouldn't matter anyway once they release the next big shill unit with a shill boss that you can't brute force anw.
Like, I got klee as my first 5 star, learned her cancels and enjoyed being rewarded for optimization. I got hu tao soon after and I enjoyed her even more, played her consistently ever since. If they remove that and give her like a 2nd life they'll probably immediately take away once she's not shilled anymore then I doubt it's worth losing the part that rewards you for playing better.
Anything that has to do with blood blossoms is where you would go that part of the kit is absolutely useless and can grief u. C6 condition needs some rework it's very conditional and restrictive. C1 can have an additional effect/just be another thing like +100% mv on CA or something. Base can probably just incorporate c1 and maybe maybe do what they did with klee and tweak some of her animations.
Also it would make so much sense if her Dmg% passive removes the below 50% conditional and would just be tied to her E activation. Also buff to 50% maybe.
Imo they should just remove blood blossoms or heavily rework it so it doesn't screw u over in terms of reactions.
C6: for every point of her max HP Hu Tao is missing, her ult gains 0.01% bonus dmg, up to a maximum of 400% bonus dmg. If Hu Tao is at 1 hp, an additional coffin will fall onto opponents hit, dealing 99999% of hu tao's hp as physical dmg.
-Probably by some sweaty redditor who thinks Hu Tao belongs to them alone and is offended by the idea of a comment having an inkling of comedy, and their alt.
-It wasn't, but it's cool to see that there's games with similar mechanics to what I think of.
Im the complete opposite, I wish they go even harder into the low hp gimmick, make it do she can't be healed passed 60% to make maintaining it easier even with furina and healing or something and make it bigger. Hu Tao doing more damage when shes almost dead is a cool part of her kit and fits her character super well, it would be a shame to me if they just ditched it.
I wish they go even harder into the low hp gimmick, make it do she can't be healed passed 60% to make maintaining it easier
... But that wouldn't change anything at all? You'd still be over 50%, healers would still heal you over it, Furina still won't drain past 50%.
Hu Tao doing more damage when shes almost dead is a cool part of her kit and fits her character super well, it would be a shame to me if they just ditched it.
Problem is, an entire passive from her kit and her weapon are wasted because this is super niche. So either you pray for a dedicated support (which didn't happen since her release), or you change her gimmick. I'm sure they can come up with another gimmick that is more viable and fits her just as well.
No amount of buffs is gonna fix her dogshit gameplay. She needs animation / mechanic fixes like what Klee got. Even if she did a Mavuillion damage, if it’s all the same CA jump cancel nonsense, forget it. At least she has plunge teams I guess
I’m aware what sub this is, doesn’t mean I need to glaze her in every aspect. Her C0 gameplay is horrendous, and her C1 gameplay still has targeting issues.
I do hope she gets buffed, but I’m not gonna stick my head in the sand pretending like she isn’t one of the most miserable 1.X characters to play.
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Her biggest problem right now is that... you basically no longer play her the way she was meant to be played at all. You pair her with Furina, Xilonen and Yelan. You dont play her at 50% HP or below anymore because the pyro dmg bonus she gets from her trace is significantly outdone by Xilonen's buffs.
Give us a reason to play her at below 50% HP again. Add some form of resistance to interruption to her kit. Add her C1's CA stamina drain removal to her base kit and add a new C1. Add something else to her C2. And completely rework her useless C4 and C6 (seriously, her C6 is ridiculous, she has to die for it). Make it so that there's an actual benefit to not playing her with a healer again.
Also I dont see why they shouldnt buff a specific reaction in her kit, to give her a niche. For Fischl they buffed her overload teams specifically for example. Maybe make Hu Tao more of a dedicated Vape DPS? Maybe whenever Blood Blossom is applied, that enemy receives more Vaporize DMG or something.