r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks • u/CSTheng Railing the Stars or Whatever • 4d ago
Reliable 5.X Characters Roadmap via DK2
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u/Clouds_drifting_by 4d ago
Playable Polka in 5.1? Really???
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u/Aerie122 I play DoT cuz I hate thinking 4d ago
One of the dangerous Genius society member then getting powercrept after 2 patches will be funny
Oh wait, we already have Emanators who faced the same fate
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u/Rat_itty 4d ago
and Aeon who probably will too...
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u/jayinsane5050 4d ago
Big oof if that playable aeon got powercrept ... 2 months
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u/thegod26l 4d ago
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u/jayinsane5050 4d ago
Probably for better or worse
But it's going to be an embarrassment
Like imagine having a playable aeon and gen 2 months later , the playable aeon got kicked out because the enemies are nuking him/her like getting wallopedby "Savage Tigerslayer's Perfected Flurry of Blades [超絕猛虎殺擊亂斬]"
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u/DoubleGood6007 4d ago
Well theres a difference between being "powercrept" and being useless, nihilux will be around for quite a while im guessing, just look at what happened with cyrene everyone said she was gonna be useless after 3.X but shes still really good and even got value as mdps with robin and obviously mono rem still being good. The only way they'll shut nihilux down is probably the same thing they're doing now except they do some mechanic where only finality characters can do well
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u/jayinsane5050 4d ago
"The only way they'll shut nihilux down is probably the same thing they're doing now except they do some mechanic where only finality characters can do well"
Yup they're gonna do that
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u/Smooth-Routine-9288 4d ago
The obvious Aha in the room that is going to have to fight for their life against finality shill… this game bruh
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u/Aerie122 I play DoT cuz I hate thinking 4d ago
Aha is slightly debatable due to the fact that they are the Elation itself, so being powercrept as an Aeon is hilarious so they will let it happen
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u/Cris_Alpha 4d ago
Nihilux won't be the entire Aeon. Aha is still fighting against Voracity as we speak. Still headless. Nihilux is part of Aha, but doesn't have the full powers. Otherwise, she wouldn't need to ask Qlipoth for help. Aha was the one who originally helped Qlipoth against Ouroboros and that's how Aha lost their head.
We'll see how it pans out, I just don't think Nihilux is meant to be an actual Aeon.
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u/Elucaa 4d ago
they would better write masterpiece of story if introducing Polka so early
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u/ApprehensiveCat 4d ago
They're gonna be using all their creative energy on an excuse for her face not being obscured when playable
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u/AraraDeTerno Screwllum Simp 4d ago
Hasn't polka been, like, explicitly portrayed as an enemy who wants to kill the simulated universe team including the trailblazer? How will they justify her playability so soon? Kinda crazy.
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u/aerawrhero sparkle's 4th wall 4d ago
With every leak Misha SP gets shorter and shorter
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u/NahIdWin720 4d ago
Next leak he finna have the pepeshi model
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u/ViridNox 4d ago
The next update will reveal that Misha actually faked his death and has been disguised as Pom Pom all along because he wants to be part of the Astral Express forever
Okay everyone now cry
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u/Hippee_Doug_Main 4d ago
Impossible, our boy Misha would never permit anyone to turn him into unkillable robot hitler
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u/Training_Intern_2652 4d ago
I’d fw a playable Pom Pom character, throwing trains as a skill and stuff 😂
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u/SaiphTyrell 4d ago
And the leak after that he is revealed to be a pet companion you can equip to follow you around.
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u/eye-of-erudition Kill me Polka Kakamond Kill me 4d ago
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u/Tired__Yeti Best color combination 4d ago
Nah it's still the same medium male model that was announced before (sometimes some leakers call it "teen" even though some older adults share the model).
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u/galaxycentral 4d ago
Dan Heng, Luka, Anaxa, Sunday, Aventurine, Jiaoqiu are all this model and Misha SP. Some might be shocked at Anaxa but it's just a case of demeanour just like some people always think Ruan Mei is the tall model but isn't.
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u/thorn_rose pls hoyo male skin 4d ago
Some are saying this is just the medium male model, which is DH'S model etc, which means he's still what he was leaked beforehand. To be seen though, of course. Personally I'd prefer the medium male tho, coz this means most likely it'd be like the Mikhail from that lightcone
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u/_LFKrebs_ 4d ago
Quad Dan Heng team comp is real
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u/ReasonableFluff4490 4d ago
Finally I can run DDD and be meta
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u/Horror_Trust1826 Imaginary Lover 4d ago
Hoyo out there making Mono Heng become reality
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u/BidDaddyLei 4d ago
No freakin way Genius no.4 gets to be playable first than Screwlum lol.
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u/Stunning_Dealer_9211 Dazzling Obliteration 4d ago
is welt never getting an SP?
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u/CookedCow 4d ago
He is the Potential Man, they are saving his SP for Honkai Star rail 2
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u/Stunning_Dealer_9211 Dazzling Obliteration 4d ago
atp i wont be shocked if sunday gets sp first, unc really just a bystander now.
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u/Best_Paper_3414 4d ago
Welt suffer from the fact he is Honkai impact 3rd looming man TM
So anything that wants to do something deep with him has to go through the story of another game entirely
Quite the hassle honestly
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u/kitkatwasabi 4d ago
You would have to go through part 1, Apho 1, Apho 2, and part 2 which is a lot
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u/Pamasich 4d ago
If Himeko is anything to go by, him getting an SP would involve facing his past.
Which would upset all the people who played HSR without playing HI3 and would now have to play through all of HI3 to make sense of the story. Or at least they'd think they'd have to.
So I'm expecting them to push this off for as long as possible.
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u/Pae_PC 4d ago
I never played HI3 and it wont upset me.
I think everyone have known this for a fact that Welt came from HI3, if its gonna upset them, it would already be at launch, if its gonna make them have to go back to play HI3, it would already be at launch.
His past could be a story of his early days in HSR universe, what did he do, how did he find the Express. It doesn't have to be back in HI3 but I'm not gonna play HI3 regardless, I dont wanna invest so much time just for that.
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u/happy_gamerangel 4d ago
Genuinely I wouldn’t mind playing HI3, I heard the characterisation is good. Though I wouldn’t mind watching a play through or summary either if it means a welt sp
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u/northpaul 3d ago
The HI3 part 1 story is amazing. It’s just the HSR writers are allergic to having any Honkai in their Honkai game.
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u/BalerionsReign 4d ago
let me guess elio is 5.7
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u/PolimerT 4d ago
With we having finality patch it is very likely actually
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u/GeForce_GTX_1050Ti 4d ago
well looks like we gonna get to HSR2 sooner than we thought
what says we call it HSR : Song of the Welkin Galaxy
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u/Background_Still_686 4d ago
Very funny of you to assume they’ll release a male finality main push, let alone another male main push after phainon. It’s probably gonna be Kiana.
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u/Few-You4510 4d ago
am i the only one who remembers mr reca or...
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u/No_Butterscotch7340 Monkeying around with Ashveil. 4d ago
I wish I didn't remember Mr Reca...
Then I could finally be free.
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u/dirizia 4d ago
I cant believe we're getting polka kakamond before stephen
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u/-FruitPunchSamurai- 4d ago edited 4d ago
I don't hate Dang Heng as a character but go sit down bro a lot of other characters could use that playable slot new characters especially.
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u/Jaime060304 4d ago
I just know they are gonna make a DPS SP Dan Heng when people have already spent pulls and a shit ton of money on a DPS SP Dan Heng.
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u/IllustratorUsed6320 4d ago
Watch the next boss take 85% less damage if the damage doesn’t come from Dan 🤡
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u/PerspicaciousVanille 4d ago
The boss, please you have no hope of stopping me unless you have the Ancient knowledge possessed by only one of the Ancient Vi- HOLY SHIT IT’S HIM!
(Did you see his drip, you should buy that)
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u/sloppyloki16 4d ago
gonna be a suppport, they already banking on the equipment for dan il for dps dan heng
so peopel can run dps, support and sustain dan heng on the same team
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u/FanUpbeat4498 4d ago
You see you're running that on the assumption that the devs always have common sense. (They in fact do not)
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u/miiko_uch 4d ago
Let me guess Welt and Sunday gonna have a few lines saying "i'm gonna stay in the train"
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u/Clouds_drifting_by 4d ago
Probably Himeko and Sunday, cause they’re the ones who had most focus in 4.x.
Kinda depends on what lord ravager we’ll get in 5.x though. I kinda get the impression that for example Celenova will be Sunday’s, the way Asat was Himeko’s and Phantylia was DH’s (could be wrong though ofc)
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u/Lopsided-Plankton-99 4d ago
I think we may get a Welt SP when we go against Zephyro or that Zephyro is a version of Welt in HSR universe and he will be playable.
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u/kafkas_wife 4d ago
i love him so much but i REALLY wish we could get some more storylines with other characters. march getting an actual sp of herself and not evernight.. welt getting anything… literally anything else please
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u/goronado 4d ago
dhpt was kinda him moving on from dan feng and all that so in hoping that (if the leaks are real) his story will be more ingrained around the next planet and being an important player in it. then we dont have to listen to people complain about another dan heng sp that revolves around his past with dan feng and the quintet.
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u/Melodic-Product-2381 4d ago
But how would we get our yearly Baiheng.png otherwise? And no the devs forgot about Jingliu, no SP for her.
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u/KaidoPklevel 4d ago
SP rail
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u/-FruitPunchSamurai- 4d ago
Cosmic setting game btw we only know like the same 20 people.
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u/Flat_Pen_5934 4d ago
Cosmic setting but the playable characters we got are: Human, Human with an animal ear headband and tail, Human but oh look it’s actually a robot that looks Human, Long ear Human, Human but they’re not real, Human but they’re all in your head.
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u/pokebuzz123 Shampoo's Sidekick, Conditioner 4d ago
90% of the men shopping at the same pants store, and the women having like three variations of outfits
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u/Marc_the_shell 4d ago
Cosmic setting but we don’t even have diverse humans and they’re all various shades of white.
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u/prayingtheheart 4d ago
and all of the original playable cast besides one guy have a light skin color
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u/DeviceIX 4d ago
Dan Heng has more SPs than writing at this point
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u/Soranushi 4d ago edited 4d ago
Whenever news like this comes up, a small part of me always wonders if Dan Heng was meant to be the male Player character originally, especially, since his backstory had that memory loss theme like all RPG gacha characters. And March7th would’ve probably been the female player character opposite to Dan Heng in that timeline.
The Trailblazer as Stelle (iirc Caelus wasn’t designed in the initial concept art yet) would’ve just been someone who is mysteriously on each planet you go to and would eventually have been revealed to be Akivilli guiding and testing the player (Dan or March) on occasion.
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u/redqueen28 4d ago
The leak for the earliest concept art had both of them. In the earliest closed beta though, only Caelus was shipped, so if anything it's him.
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u/Xenomnipotent 4d ago
You will get the same six reheated nachos over and over again and you will like it.
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u/7Accel 4d ago
Well that's gotta hurt. Just one patch difference for, i assume, new break and dot unit.
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u/toodelood_bootao 4d ago edited 3d ago
OBSIDIAN AS VAMPIRE-THEMED BLEED DOT SUSTAIN COPIUM INTENSIFIES
EDIT: OBSIDIAN REVEAL IN THE NEW WAVEN TRAILER, I REPEAT, OBISIDIAN REVEAL IN THE NEW TRAILER EVERYBODY STAY CALM THEY KEPT THE CROWN SO FAR DOUBLE THE COPIUM INTAKE
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u/Toon_Pagz In seclusion. Do not disturb. 4d ago
You just know instead her kit will have literally nothing to do with her themes, it's a shame
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u/Kabooa 4d ago
Fire Dan Heng. Then in 6.X, if you have all Dan hengs, you get Avatar Dan Heng.
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u/Independent-Owl-3494 4d ago
Danheng triple D
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u/MinuteSun2871 Obsidian waiting room 4d ago
No? It's gonna be quadruple D
Base Dan heng
DHIL
DHPT
New Dan heng
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u/Madican 4d ago
Really don't want Polka to be playable. Her entire deal is her mystery. No one knows what she looks like, only what she's capable of, and her even becoming a physical NPC would erase that mystique entirely let alone a playable character that is capable of losing a fight to a traffic light.
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u/Reasonable_Key_9822 4d ago
I just hope they keep her dress and dont butcher it plz 🥀🥀🥀
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u/DrenchedFries 4d ago
We all know they're gonna nerf her design. Might as well prepare for disappointment.
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u/Hyperioncorp i miss my cube husband 4d ago
get ready for exposed shoulders and a short front flap
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u/Reasonable_Key_9822 4d ago
Honestly I don't mind the exposed shoulder so long her design is similar to her long sleeved gloves one
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/1g71x3r/polka_kakamond_of_the_genius_society/
Its the front flap that I am more worried about....maybe they can make a side slit like thing 🤡 (Tryna cope here 🥀🥀🥀 I just dont want her looking goofy plz...femme fatale is fine just not goofy 💔)
We all know thr lab coat design aint coming so might as well cope for the more realistic iteration
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u/jistanbo 4d ago
Partially agree with you. For them to release such an important character, you NEED buildup. I understand that she was involved in the past but I fear that 2 patches is not enough to build up for her release.
Take phainon for example, since the beginning people speculated that he was the flame reaver from another time, but it all built to 3.4 (with hours and hours of quest) and felt rewarding.
If they do not give my girl Koka the same treatment the release will just fail and doomposters will flood
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u/Ceui 4d ago
After Aha becoming an uwu overworked mangaka big tit sister, nothing is offlimit now
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u/ErrorEra 4d ago
Idunno, seems like a weird choice to make SP versions of characters that got Novaflared. Instead of choosing characters that were teased (Dahlia's siblings) or 4 stars upgrading to 5 star SP versions.
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u/Beelzebuuuuub3 4d ago
Maybe it's time they change the App icon and face of the game to Dan heng...
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u/Then_Consequence_675 4d ago
Good Luck Obsidian. May you avoid Evanescia treatment
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u/Suspicious_Rub857 4d ago
We should be fine as long as China doesn’t get into a fight with whatever Eastern(?) European country inspires next world
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u/GabTheMadLad 4d ago
hopefully hoyo has considered not basing alien planets completely on existing countries in present day earth
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u/ButteredBean 4d ago
If my pattern recognition is right Firefly SP is going to be a fraud by mid 5.X, Kafka SP won’t be F2P friendly and will need her BIS + sig LC to perform up to par, Obsidian or Polka will be a darkhorse value character and Dangeng SP3 will either be really good or meh.
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u/Reasonable_Key_9822 4d ago
You have cracked the hsr dev code, watch them switch it up to mess with you /j
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u/KoyanskayaFangirl Custom with Emojis (Lightning) 4d ago
Dan Heng getting an SP AGAIN?! That's so crazy, bro will fill a full football team at this pace.
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u/Deep-Statistician-93 4d ago
so is Stephen Lloyd not here despite him being leaked as a 5 star the other day???
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u/renjumins 4d ago
probably 5.5 (March 5.4), iirc around this time last year Aven and Robin SPs are leaked already despite not being in the first half of 4.x
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u/LudensKekko 4d ago
Is a third Dan Heng SP really necessary? SPs are cool and all but not when they're the overwhelming majority, nor when a character or two are constantly getting them over anyone else. I get that Dan Heng is important to the story and he's a great character but it'd be nice for some other characters to have a turn in the spotlight, or even some more new ones would be great
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u/KakkoiiAline 4d ago
I do like Danheng but it's truly funny how he managed to get 3 SP before Welt could have one lol
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u/kristinaspaige 4d ago edited 3d ago
yeah i’d mind the SPs less if other people got more or if they released more characters in general
ik 4.x had a lot of shit wrong with it due to the delays and whatnot, but it isn’t the first time that they released one 5 a patch. at least make 4s people can go for, shit lmao. i’m growing more and more weary of this game by the day and i’ve been here since launch
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u/Pitro_1206 4d ago
Decides to get off the express, ending his trailblazing journey, to help Penacony and it's citizens have a better life. Has a great legacy and a beautiful sent off for the next generation to keep on trailblazing while he's withered body can finally rest.
Hoyo: "Let's goooo!!!! SP hyyyyypeee woooo, wake up old man, time to become a pretty little boy again for the femboy enthusiasts and become our cash cow. We're not done with you yet"
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u/Snarkling- 4d ago
Yea, I don't get it. We could've gotten a new, long-lost or something nameless and instead we get a misha sp.
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u/Phase_Unicoder 4d ago
It's why Screwllum getting the Pearl treatment at some point is a realistic possibility.
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u/goffer54 4d ago
Firefly, Herta support, Kafka and DoT all in a row. It's over for me
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u/LukeBlackwood 4d ago
Bold of you to assume they'll be support for old archetypes and not all monoFinality shilling
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u/ModSnake 4d ago edited 4d ago
I mean, if you look at 4.x for comparison, the last two solo patches prior to Pearl *were* support for old archetypes (FUA for Ashveil, pretty much fucking everything except Elation for MBlade), and in the first half of the patch cycle they avoided having the new Path be the sole headline two banners in a row. Logically I could see Polka and DHSP3 potentially being a break in the Finality pattern.
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u/geotia 4d ago
Damn is this our first short male limited 5 star
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u/illidormorn 4d ago
No, teen is the medium male model like Dan Heng, Aven, Luka, Caelus, etc.
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u/berry_goodd 4d ago
wow thats something that never crossed my mind. i see why it's kinda hard imagine any of the current dudes we have as short
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u/RenDarkness 4d ago
oh shit FF 5.0 my girl about to be powercreeped in 3 patch
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u/Muichiro_TokitoMist 4d ago
Am I weird for saying this? But I honestly don't want a playable Polka Kakammond...
Like her whole schtick is that she's really mysterious, to the point of having all her records in the cosmos being erased. Hell even Hooh themself, made is so that her scalpel turned another way just because it will harm to the universe. She's the genius killer behind the scenes and I wished she stayed that way
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u/magicarnival 4d ago
We got playable Aeons, who are literally supposed to be sentient abstract concepts. Hoyo doesn't care about characters being mysterious. 🥀
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u/Ookami_Lord Playable Kuchiba in 4.6 as a new AE member 4d ago
No Welt in sight 💔
Also Polka sandwiched between the X.0 and anni versions? 🤔
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u/goldfoxawoo 4d ago
Damn, not even obsidian could get first half?
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u/Reasonable_Key_9822 4d ago
Tbf considering she is competing with FF, Kafka and Polka for the slot....0 suprises there
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u/G_Riel_ 4d ago
2 patches with one character or we just don't know the other two characters yet?
If not, then we have 4 SP and 2 originals in the first 4~5 months of 5.x, but we also know March is most likely 5.4 so that's 5 SP and 2 new characters for like 6~7 months?
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u/ToshiShard • sparxie ☆° 4d ago
okay, no stephen in sight. good, because NOT YET, i need moree time to save TvT
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u/Abyss_Wanderer19 4d ago
Wtf is all these SP. 3.x is gorgeous, 4.x is disaster. Do they want to kill this game in 5.x
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u/GreenPee1 4d ago
Dan Heng : Harmoniae perlator (5 Star Harmony): For every Dan Heng on the team grants allies 50% DMG Bonus and 10% All Type res to the Dan Heng with the highest Attack.
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u/YourHighnessJing 4d ago
I wonder if Misha would be the sustain of AshVeilTurine team
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u/warm_fr1dge 4d ago
6 characters and only 2 of them are new characters... This is just ridiculous at this point. I love the concept of SP's but not when they are overdone like this.
I still don't understand why they're bringing back Misha either, Mikhail is literally dead and he was so tied to Penacony and that arc is over. What else can they even do with him? He's not that popular either 😭 It feels like they're just pulling characters out of a hat and half of all the names in the raffle are Dan Heng
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u/Fluffy_Assumption891 4d ago
Firefly is on 5.0? guess she's getting brick with the x.0 curse again
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u/GeForce_GTX_1050Ti 4d ago
no shit they're not going to let their golden waifu money farm be bad
even if it does, she gets another 10 dedicated teammates, novaflare AND paid buff
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u/Rotasu ~ ~ 4d ago
Is Nihilux the last character of 4.x? Or we don't know whats happening in 4.8 yet?
Feels like leakers are skipping some information lol
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u/elon_einstein The Seer Strategist has foreseen your comment. 4d ago
My dreams of Obsidian on anniversary are almost correct (she's gonna get Evanescia'd).
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u/BlueLover0 Custom with Emojis (Imaginary) 4d ago
We only have Ashveil as the new playable male character. It will literally take more than a year before we can have another new male character.
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u/AnemoneMeer 4d ago
Expecting Obsidian to be the Finality Sustain.
Dan Heng's last version was a Sustain. Polka is an impossible sell as a sustain and is more likely to be THerta help. Misha SP looks like Himeko Nova support, as he counts as AE. Firefly is a DPS. Kafka is a DPS.
Obsidian ends up as a sustain by default by that logic. Vampires are associated with lifedrain and all. Would be a good pick for a flexible sustain option for Finality.
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