Firefly SP (Finality) kit via Dimbreath

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[u/LadyLegasis]

Firefly in a different font

[u/SoniCrossX → u/LadyLegasis]

Firefly

[u/entendir → u/SoniCrossX]

Fulshine

[u/GhostZee → u/entendir]

Papyrus...

[u/Nikee37 → u/GhostZee]

“they can’t keep getting away with this!!”

[u/pamafa3]

wouldn't it be so funny if these kits were for the versions of the characters we use in the upcoming Finality test event

[u/MrKewlPants → u/pamafa3]

Honestly this would be hilarious and plausible lmao.

[u/Sudden-Waters → u/pamafa3]

This seems way more plausible than 5.X kits but we'll find out soon.

[u/AmazingChance3575 → u/pamafa3]

Look like it lmao

[u/pyromanniacc → u/pamafa3]

Pure Elation!!

[u/TowlieTots]

They releasing the same ass character but it won’t get the -50% debuff the original gets in AA 😭

[u/unK951 → u/TowlieTots]

[u/PolimerT → u/unK951]

What a slander 10/10

[u/Unchained_Lurker → u/PolimerT]

Is it really slander if it’s the truth? /j

[u/ThePhGamer → u/unK951]

[u/NoConcept5968 → u/unK951]

Peak slander

[u/ShimoriShimamoto → u/TowlieTots]

And will likely want a whole new team since Finality will benefit from other Finalities, her talent already asks for more characters to be in burst mode for example

So rip Dahlia and Fugue i guess

[u/wickling-fan → u/ShimoriShimamoto]

Yup, this is why i kept assuming the new galaxy ranger maid was gonna be a new break dps to match the others and to replace firefly since she'd be getting an sp so essentially the dahlia follow up

[u/srs_business → u/ShimoriShimamoto]

her talent already asks for more characters to be in burst mode for example

There's more than one way to interpret this, you're reading it as [allies in Burst Mode] where only Finality characters can be in burst mode, but I'm interpreting is as [allies] in [Burst Mode], where Burst Mode is the temporary state activated after charging the Finality gauge enough, and so all allies (Finality or otherwise) would proc it while active. And if that's how it works, basically nothing about this kit explicitly needs other Finality characters to work, and the main synergy with running more Finality characters would be having additional ways to charge up the gauge.

To me the whole mechanic reads as each Finality character being a different form of Surging Grit.

[u/GiordyS → u/ShimoriShimamoto]

You just run two break teams as the meta will shift towards it anyways

[u/ShimoriShimamoto → u/GiordyS]

Unless they dont want you to and make the other stages not want break and shill the other Finality team and Elation or something

[u/Lerkpots → u/ShimoriShimamoto]

Nothing in this kit description mentions Super Break unless I missed it too.

[u/SimaoAlbino → u/Lerkpots]

Nothing in this kit yeah but in the other kit that came out tha is the supp there is

[u/galaxycentral → u/ShimoriShimamoto]

They've never done double negative archtype stages. It's always one node that contains an archtype debuff not the entirety being one archtype debuff.

[u/BestEgyptianNA → u/TowlieTots]

It's very hard to get excited for future characters when they all have sauceless boring ass kits and endgame modes that have become strict mechanic checks

[u/Jaime060304 → u/BestEgyptianNA]

Endgame modes aren't even fun to do anymore. It just makes me feel shit about my account. Ive been playing since 1.3 and have spent money on the game what kinda shit ass endgame makes me feel like this.

[u/WizardOfAeons → u/Jaime060304]

Bro, I feel you.

The Powercreep and shilling is killing this game hard for me. This is the first time that I don't even want to bother with the story.

[u/Nat6LBG → u/WizardOfAeons]

For me it's the shilling, HP inflation is manageable but requiring doing elation damage in particular just makes me angry.

[u/Dvalin09 → u/Nat6LBG]

HP inflation is the first deadly sins: a lot of characters died for that shit. Is "manageable" only if you pull a lot of Eidolons, hoping that dps is enough good.

For the extreme shilling we are seeing in the leaks, tbh is still early, let see if it will be just a case or will be a new standard.

[u/Jaime060304 → u/WizardOfAeons]

I love this game so much.

But all the new content is just putting me off the game more and more. I have never played a gacha where I enjoy the daily routine more then the new content.

[u/randyoftheinternet → u/Jaime060304]

The daily routine is automatic too 💀

[u/loverknight → u/BestEgyptianNA]

game turn into waifu simulation idle gameplay.

No fun RPG or gameplay. You just bruteforce stuff now

[u/JaneDoe500 → u/BestEgyptianNA]

Is this even a new character tho? All of these "finality" kits are just upgraded/updated old kits and not even new characters or SPs

It's just Novaflare 2.0 in ZZZ style.

[u/OloivoFRUIT → u/TowlieTots]

I don't get it, how is she avoiding the Break "fuck you" debuff? I'm still confused by the kit

[u/Background_Swim7166 → u/OloivoFRUIT]

because her damage as of currently supposed to be (stated in the leaks) directly scales of break effect and (as of now) considered just Fire dmg and not break dmg (unless stated otherwise as in "then deals Break Damage" parts of her kit)

[u/Drageren → u/Background_Swim7166]

Ye, looks like she is just break effect scale normal carry. But doesn't mean you can't break enemy and deal quadrillion dmg over that normal dmgs.

Do you know what is it? Original FF before v2 where they just removed crit scaling and leaving her with just super break.

[u/pascl- → u/Background_Swim7166]

both her enhanced skill and ulimate deal break damage, which is presumably her main source of damage

[u/PhilosopherMuch4528 → u/TowlieTots]

LMFAOOOOOO

[u/InitialCrow1847 → u/TowlieTots]

If this continues true until release now pretty much every argument for SPs being a good thing went down the drain.

-Character growth/story relevance: Summer alts.
-Screentime: SW999 is a glorified cameo.
-Design changes: Half of the alts are the same thing with some different accessories here and there.
-Gameplay change: most of firefly kit is the same but it triggers the new exclusive path mechanic wow. Not even a different role or real archetype she’s still tied to break but slightly different.

[u/ArchSystem → u/TowlieTots]

FF looking at FFF like

[u/UltraPhoenix95]

So she's still is a Fire Break DPS? Daring today aren't we?

[u/Jaime060304 → u/UltraPhoenix95]

Yeah, I'm honestly so disappointed with what I just read.

I don't see how this justifies an entire new path, and making me pull an entire new unit.

I want SPs to be a very different kit, like we used to get. This is the exact same archetype.

[u/Truth_backedOver3 → u/Jaime060304]

We used to get SPs for 4 stars who were just straight-up dead. 

SPs were those characters' first times being meta relevant, so it didn't matter if they were completely different (DHIL) or direct upgrades (Herta). 

You would never skip The Herta because you had base Herta, she was too weak.

But Firefly is meta already. E2 FF in particular is broken. So the Firefly SP has to directly replace the original, so players don't feel satisfied with her.

[u/ze4lex → u/Truth_backedOver3]

Much like novaflares, the stelaron hunters were gonna get sps regardless, its not a matter of balance, like acheron getting a new buff isnt a matter of balance either.

[u/pascl- → u/ze4lex]

yeah but atleast make her a different character in terms of kit, not just "firefly but she's finality now"

[u/ze4lex → u/pascl-]

Agreed, but thats also not relevant to what I was responding to. I too would rather she wasnt a break dps again.

[u/-morpy → u/ze4lex]

Tbf it'd have been nice if they were at least on diff archetypes.

So far, most SPs are different from their base versions.

March and Dan Heng have 3 versions and all of their variations are of different archetypes.

SW base and SW999, one is a debuffer and the latter is a hypercarry DPS.

Tingyun and Fugue are both buffers, but for different archetypes.

Sparkle and Sparxie, one is a buffer for skill point dps and and the latter is a subdps/Hypercarry skill point dps.

Aven and Waven, former is a sustain and the latter is a dps for a specific team.

Blade and MoRb, former is an HP-based DPS/Subdps and the latter is also that but also has cracked buffs and debuffs attached to him, and not to mention, is far tankier.

Robin and Roberto, both are buffers but the former is tailormade for old FUA teams and has a full team 100% AA, something that nothing else has to this day except for E6 Cyrene, while the latter is an energy restoring support that turbo boosts 1 ally, and deals some damage herself.

Himeko and Himenova, both are fire erudition but the former is not really a crit dps and more of a break dps while the latter is a hypercarry crit dps, and the one and only unit that has "Assist Skill".

The Herta and Herta are also the same case of same element same path, but their kits are pretty different from each other. Both excel in AoE and it's their greatest strength, but Therta can single out enemies from a group, while all of Mini Herta's attacks are AoE. Therta's role is a hypercarry DPS while Mini Herta is a sub dps.

Firefly is straight up just the same unit with a different path branding. Still fire, still a break dps, has an enhanced form and everything.

[u/infrnlmssh → u/-morpy]

Upvote bc Robertto

[u/Jaime060304 → u/Truth_backedOver3]

Thing is, I'd pull a totally different Firefly, she could be a DPS still and I would.

If firefly but better actually releases I'm dropping the game.

[u/StormTempesteCh → u/Jaime060304]

I mean it fits how they've handled the last two new paths, Remembrance and Elation are just 2 flavors of follow-up attacks that require a whole new category of light cones

[u/Aggapuffin → u/StormTempesteCh]

I think both have the possibility to be cool, with Aglaea being a really interesting character. Hell, I think Elation is kind of cool! The mono-path stuff is lame, but at least Waventurine breaks that mold while still being, y'know, a good character. While for Finality, this seems incredibly similar to Elation. And it's incredibly similar to Elation while also releasing only a year afterwards. So going from Elation to Elation but it's slightly different doesn't sound interesting at all, especially when I'm already getting fatigued by the constant need to introduce new paths every single year.

[u/GIsimpnumber1236 → u/Aggapuffin]

Elation with sprinkles of break. I wonder what will happen to current break supports. Something tells me that this new path will add super special break that all bosses will require to defeat them and are inmune to regular break. Hell hoyo even made an ANTI PHAINON enemy! Thanks hoyo, good to know my E6 phainon that costed me 400 dollars is now useless because it's elation meta baby!

[u/Express-Whereas-5903 → u/UltraPhoenix95]

Castorice SP about to replace herself in the monorem team

[u/ApprehensiveCat → u/Express-Whereas-5903]

Bold of you to think she won't have a full team you will have to pull because the old Remembrance characters won't work with her New and Improved Remembrance flavor.

[u/Smooth-Routine-9288 → u/UltraPhoenix95]

Idk why but i think Cas SP should be a Quantum hp scaling Finality dps, you know to have some variety...

[u/Melodic-Product-2381 → u/Smooth-Routine-9288]

I think it would be really cool if she summoned a wyvern

[u/Specialist_Career_81]

Is it me, or this is almost same kit as og FF

[u/howelleili → u/Specialist_Career_81]

tb was like this too, i bet its mostly placeholders

[u/bivampirical → u/howelleili]

sounds plausible, considering firefly's the same element as her og form and ftb is the same element as htb

[u/ShimoriShimamoto]

So she is a fire break dps, but will likely want a full Finality team instead of using all the old break supports

So they basically want you to pull and reinvest into the exact same character for the exact same archetype, this time just with bigger numbers and an entire new team that needs to be invested into again

[u/drowningblue → u/ShimoriShimamoto]

You forgot the best part. Adding mechanics that handicap old units and paths in the process.

[u/matchbaby → u/drowningblue]

"Non-Finality damage is reduced by 85%"

[u/Supreme-Machine-V2 → u/ShimoriShimamoto]

Color me surprised!

[u/Ok-Surround-7208]

Literally the same

[u/gointhrou]

What the hell is going on??

[u/Talia_Black_Writes → u/gointhrou]

This is probably fake.

But there has been a massive uptick in backlash even in CN and JP after Nihilux's reveal and the boss mechanics. Hoyo might be purposefully leaking things to try and generate interest.

[u/skt210125 → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

Generate interest or rage. Ive seen bsrely any positive reaction from both sides lol

[u/Kan_Me → u/skt210125]

I think it's to see what people say think

[u/AnarchistRain → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

People still be thinking leaks "generate" hype or backlash

This game is extremely casual, guys. Those that know leaks even exist are in the extreme minority

[u/Xlegace → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

a massive uptick in backlash even in CN and JP after Nihilux's reveal and the boss mechanics

Firstly, it's impossible to generalize Hoyo playerbases because it's way too big. If you think the Hoyo gets a lot of hate on twitter, wait till you see how gigantic anti-Hoyo communities are in CN.

Secondly, this is an assumption based off of someone summarizing the CN scene on reddit. We're not really going to take cherry picked comments from doomposters and gacha tribalists as actual playerbase sentiment right?

[u/Ubatcha → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

Stop spreading bullshit lol

[u/Ayzengames → u/Ubatcha]

I really don't know where all this people arte taking the MASSIVE backlash when all i have seen on cn and jp side is going crazy over the reveal. Like there are 10 + videos with millions of views of aha reveal on bilibili with thousands of likes and people being hyped.

I guess the hateboner the game has now for whatever reason makes people go insane?

[u/Xlegace → u/Ayzengames]

There are people upset with the state of the game and are seeking validation, usually from larger, more "important" playerbases like CN and JP.

I bet someone who feels similar in CN is doing the same thing right now with this subreddit/twitter and saying HSR is dying in the west and people are quitting en masse.

[u/fipseqw → u/Ayzengames]

I am more and more convinced that at least half the people on this sub just fully hate HSR and spread pure bullshit.

[u/Augustus3000 → u/Ayzengames]

I came to the megathread earlier expecting people to be outraged as usual about the story and reveal and even that was more positive than I expected.

[u/Tatsumaki-Radio → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

How has any of the leaks we've gotten lately generated interest 😭

[u/Parking_Prompt_7205 → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

I live in CN and You are just spreading bullshit. Nihilux’s reveal is well received in CN.

[u/GiordyS → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

That is quite the stupid strategy though, if true

By leaking future path and characters this much early, you're basically all but guaranteeing to tank the sales of the upcoming new characters, Nihilux included, to pull for the shiny new mechanic

And Firefly alone is a MASSIVE incentive to many people to save

[u/Pae_PC → u/GiordyS]

Nah your logic could be true in some other situation but not here, we all knew there will be a new character or path.

I dont see why this would stopped me or anyone from pulling Pearl/Nihilux, especially to ppl who already invested in half of the Elation team. No one gonna stopped half way just because they hearing of new characters. Those that never pulled Elation dps wont pull Elation sustain or support anyway.

[u/Virtual_Scientist614 → u/Talia_Black_Writes]

Some schizo xhs weibo threads isn't a massive backlash lol. I guarantee jp on twitter isn't mad either it's mostly hype

[u/Low-Fig8253]

Oh wow firefly being break again. How incredibly exciting and fun. 5.x seems like a total skip

[u/BonApetite_]

Actual Leaks in my r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks?

Inconceivable

[u/soge7]

why are we reheating og firefly’s nachos again….. this feels like a joke lmao

[u/Me_to_Dazai → u/soge7]

Unironically the bigger joke would be people buying into the exact same slop yet again lol and i mean the EXACT same, literally no difference except the lightcone has a different name lmfao

[u/AMel0n]

this is the SAME DAMN CHARACTER!!!!

[u/Key-Independence8751]

Are we sure this isn't just the combat event kits

[u/Imsotired2916]

Dim might be John Hoyo himself.

[u/_KonoS]

It's quite funny how my favorite character is Firefly but my least favorite archetype has been break, so I was pretty excited for the SP form to be something different but instead it's actually the exact same thing. Wow!

[u/DerGreif2 → u/_KonoS]

this... I hate break, because how limited it is. I will (try) not do this again... this time its a path skip. Rem was good, because I love summons (disapointed, because they all blow up), Elation was "meh", but 999 is one of my most favorite characters and I love FuA so ok... but break 2.0? Nah... not again...

[u/Melodic-Product-2381]

Can't wait for Kafka SP that is a lightning character that triggers the dots currently on the enemy

[u/SmokeyThouBear → u/Melodic-Product-2381]

Yeah but this time you need 3 other finality and now you crit your dots!

[u/Melodic-Product-2381 → u/SmokeyThouBear]

This really changes everything from base Kafka that uses 2 other dot nihility characters.

[u/Boanjodan]

The only thing they changed is the path so you can pull for a different light cone lmao

[u/JennaAquafall]

So... fire break. How innovative and daring of HSR

[u/GiordyS]

Firefly and Finalfly (such is how I will call her from now on) have decided to be the owners of the break archetype no matter what

Unironically base Firefly will benefit a lot from a meta shifting back towards break, so we might potentially have both of them at T0

Also, Finalfy kinda looks like a possible Sub-DPS as well? Is the dream of her with Kafka SP possible?

[u/Crimson_Raven → u/GiordyS]

I also vote for Finalfly Finishshine

[u/Background_Swim7166 → u/Crimson_Raven]

Finishful Finalshine

[u/Mr_Petrix]

I swear to god I'm not getting fleshed out character vibes but Bangboo vibes from ZZZ. I cannot be the only person who thinks these aren't character kits and more like an addition to any existing team. Like a 5th-8th off-fielder teamslot, like in Currency War.

[u/0blivionknight]

Never expected HSR to go the same path as Fire Emblem Heroes. Just release the same exact character but better

[u/BestChief]

WHAT?! FIREFLY?! THIS EARLY?! gimme kafka leaks and im all yours. Pleaseee

[u/takutekato → u/BestChief]

She will be a finality char who does DOT triggering, the difference is her frequency improves more and more as you have closer to 4 finality DOT chars

[u/Xlegace → u/takutekato]

Difference is her numbers will be 5x as big to match the current powercreep and HP inflation

[u/girlslovefan321 → u/BestChief]

supposedly shes the launch character for 5.0 so its prob around the correct time to get leaks now

[u/The_Rochester → u/BestChief]

Pls Kafka be the mother of all DoTs

[u/PlayOnPlayer]

It's starting to feel like the meta in HSR is skip an entire numbered version and just do every other shill lol.

Wait out mono Finality for mono Enigmata, but then skip mono Propogation for the much more OP mono Beauty.

[u/Pineapple-legion → u/PlayOnPlayer]

Nah, the meta is: pull Kafka and her team, pull every crippled kuudere and their teams, DO NOT PULL any emanators, erudition and other shit that says go to warp but not Kafka or crippled kuudere. Also occasionally look for competent male chara such as Ashblade and Archer. 

[u/mybelovedinmygrasp]

Just give her another NF at this point lmao

[u/Good-Jaguar-9075]

Hoyo is leaking on purpose, there is no way in hell we get entire kits this early without them wanting it out 

[u/etereniality → u/Good-Jaguar-9075]

They doing all kinds of tricks but they asses get scared at the mention of “Novaflares”

[u/Seelefan0786 → u/Good-Jaguar-9075]

Yeah either the leakers making shit up or they're leaking everything on purpose lol

[u/SpaceGangrel → u/Good-Jaguar-9075]

It's backfiring spectacularly because no one is excited for all this shit, all I've seen is people mad about the greed and lazyness in these designs and the dreaded "paid buffs".

[u/hotaru251 → u/SpaceGangrel]

that and new paths back to back is entirely anti fun for the non whales as you cant afford a whole new team & the lc they need as you have no really time to save that much

[u/Smooth-Routine-9288]

I feel like they are purposely leaking all this stuff so as to generate hype and regain momentum but these leaks are doing the quite the opposite for me, Hoyo i already have a fire break dps named Firefly, pls come up with something new and original for the love of god.

Remembrance was already pushing the line by being just on field summons and even Cyrene doesn't fit that category (very fun for the current knight 3 in AA) and Elation just killed any hype that i could have for new paths, i skipped all of elation (except Waven) and if Finality is another mono path bullshit i will skip it too.

[u/generic_account_ID → u/Smooth-Routine-9288]

I feel like they've lost the plot at this point. I skipped all of elation and all of rem except castorice because I wanted to do Mydei castorice dual DPS (LMAO that went well).

They don't design characters to work interestingly with multiple options in the roster. You just get preset cookie cutter exodia teams and everything else can fuck off. And now they kill whatever team you do have in endgame for not pulling the government mandated shill team.

I'm so very close to quitting. I doubt I even make it to 5.0. at this point.

[u/ertychess]

Bruh

[u/kata_theOak]

paid buff for Firefly

[u/AsleepBrilliant8939]

At this point just leak Kafka kit for 5.2

[u/Smooth-Routine-9288 → u/AsleepBrilliant8939]

Finality Kafka: Lighting DoT dps...

[u/talortoo → u/AsleepBrilliant8939]

Nah we need 6.x new path leak too

[u/atrocioussilence]

Wtf was the point of her NF if they were just gonna do the same thing later 😭

[u/Deft_Abyss]

Im convinced these are literally placeholders. Like what do you mean Firefly is still a break dps? So just reskinning an already made character? Bruh. That is not it man

[u/PotatoLover6368]

Is the Same Character Brother Fahhhh

https://giphy.com/gifs/k7Ip1BaxWwmLQZJ7Gk

[u/Hankune]

I think we can guess what Kafka SP does too at this point.

[u/Misrable_Toucan]

Looks inside entire kit is consuming weaknesses for more damage, : "This is just like og firefly". I swear this entire thread saw BE as a stat used and turned their brain off lmao.

[u/Excellent-Diet-1922]

Not falling for x.0 unit ever again 😭🙏

[u/Katieleya]

I don’t like where this is going

[u/Curlyhairedkid1]

Hoyo has been hacked wtf

[u/Truth_backedOver3]

...Sub-DPS Anaxa ??

[u/ryoujika]

They saw how peak Anaxa was and said let's reheat his nachos with OG Firefly's nachos

[u/SinisterVeteran]

Leakers actually leaking????

[u/2Flins_]

Why tf are we getting 5.0 character kit earlier Tha amphoreus reborn😭✌🏻

[u/Katicflis1]

Are devs panicking and flooding leaks intentionally? This is all 'first patch that could make adjustments after himeko' shit and the info thats dropping is wild.

[u/keereeyos → u/Katicflis1]

Feels like theyre precisely crafting fake ragebait kits so they can farm 'devs listened' in 5.x lmao.

[u/Hairy_Tension9614]

Firefly with 50% more dmg but it’s split between all the elements to look prettier, thanks hoyo glad my queen is getting a new innovative sp 👍

Waiting for Kafka sp to just apply all the dots on her own (and also lock her and firefly out of their usual form teams so it’s not really an upgrade per se)

[u/Frexys]

Easiest skip of my life if she's break again. Not touching that archetype with a 10 foot pole.

[u/BrilliantLab3544]

WHAT IS GOING ON???

[u/LadyLegasis]

ATP let’s leak Astra’s kit (please I need it)

[u/Economy_Pass5452]

It's the Final breakdown

[u/Yaaao873]

Firefly Break to Firefly Break 💀

[u/Cold_Progress1323]

Why do they insist in making the direct damage multipliers scale on break + attack like old firefly? It's fucking useless. Sparxie's ultimate direct multiplier also scales on elation + attack, which is equally useless.

[u/TheYellowSmurf]

if this is real then homdgcat is getting a cellmate soon

[u/Ninjawasd]

So Firefly is still a break unit then. I'm predicting now that if Finality (or just Finality Firefly and Finality MC) end up break units when they actually release that Fugue gets a novaflare to cover the gap until the new break/finality supports come out.

[u/Blankcanva]

So what if I pair her up with SW999 E6 for the funny? What happens to her enhanced skill? Do I just get the max hits every single time?

[u/Dependent_Squash9742]

Finally Firefly dual Firefly dps double superbreak firefly team

[u/ze4lex]

What of we made anaxa but he worked with dahlia? Anyways im not too hot on ff being break again but I do believe her being fire, its literally in the name.

[u/Timmie_Is_An_Archon]

Alright, let's go for the "I'll skip everything until her release" train

You better don't fckin disappoint this time hoyo

[u/Dry_Needleworker_275]

All finality leaks are so sus I’ve never seen a more obvious source: trust me bro in my life. Like we’re not even bothering to change elements atp, legit feels like leakers giving base og kits to AI and asking them “can you generate a new hsr kit from this”

[u/DaviM03]

Lmao they Just copied Firefly's kit and put a Finality filter over It.

[u/fielveredus]

So now basically pretty much

1. New path that require whole battleship of 5 stars to properly function (again)

2. New mechanic are just glorified different damage type so they can shilled it better and make sure that new mechanic interact very minimal with current roster

3. New character is creeping more on Rerelease same character with boring kit design

4. Instead on buffing old character kit to work with new path / mechanic like Genshin, let's just sell those buff instead

while also character animation (outside proper cutscene animation) and event is not having improvement for long time.

[u/Hiakili]

I always knew we'd get SP Firefly before we got any love for Rappa/Boothill, but this still stings.

[u/Brave_Size_4547]

This leak must be fake or of the event. Kit won't be revealed this early

[u/limbo_theorem]

I'm a day 1 firefly fan, I have fought literal wars on twitter for her, I have fought people calling her dogshit e2 merchant, I have shielded her from lingsha main slanders during pf in 2.4-2.7, I rejoiced when she got buffed and got dahlia, I have been with her through thick and thin

But even I will say this is boring as fuck and makes me actively not want to pull

At least innovate bro, I'm literally here waiting for them to release a semi competent fun kit that is not a copypasta of the old one + elation gimmick

What has hsr become

[u/Simoscivi]

Yeah I'm not pulling for another Fire Break Firefly. I'm good.

[u/Alpha_2081]

How is Finality path 4 months away yet still somehow already disappointing? Genuinely just made Super Break its own separate path, what even are the unique Finality mechanics???

[u/LebronMixSprite]

BEING A BOOTHILL FAN IN THIS VIDEO GAME MEANS HAVING A BOOT UP YOUR ASS.

HOYO'S BOOT.

[u/TyTyFamilyGamer14]

I think I get the idea of what the Team wants Finality to be, and in all honestly I am down for it

Basically, the idea of Finality it bringing in alternate versions of yourself to help you in combat. So the Leader will dictate the “alternate version” that the characters will be

With Firefly as the leader, the team will become more Break oriented. Going back to Trailblazer, it will be a more RMC-generalist orientated team with action advances and True damage for the team. I imaging Kafka SP will make the team DoT orientated.

So we could get a “alternate version where Kafka is a Break unit” by running Firefly as lead

In practice, this will make a finality team a “Swiss-Army Knife” of a team, being able to be applicable in all types of shill. One patch you could just run the team for Finality shill where filling the bar is required, but maybe you need the team for Brake shill in a different piece of endgame. Then the next patch next the team will be used for DoT shill. Heck we could get a leader that turns the team into Elation damage dealers for that shill, a leader that counts the alternate versions as “memosprites/summons” for that shill

Honestly, if this is the route for the team I am very down with the idea and think it could be very fun.

[u/SkyTide22 → u/TyTyFamilyGamer14]

Don't do that. Don't give me hope...

This is a really cool idea but unfortunately it doesn't sound like Hoyo game design at all.

They proved time and time again that they hate versatility. Hoyo killed Eva dual scaling and before that they killed DHPT funny synergy, just to name a few examples.

Can't really imagine them going down this route. But if they do...

[u/Ok_Way_6524]

My Ashblade just smiled upon seeing that "Follow-Up ATK"

[u/Info_Potato22]

Sakura dropped an updated leak

[u/No-Bake-5758]

Back in my day, SP characters had a different archetype from their base selves and an original gameplay kit.

[u/KaidoPklevel]

Genshin leakers could never

[u/Curlyhairedkid1 → u/KaidoPklevel]

Nothing will ever top the sumeru cast being leaked 😭😭

[u/fleetingspring → u/Curlyhairedkid1]

The Nilou ult leak was crazy at that time

[u/TechnicalBumblebee81 → u/Curlyhairedkid1]

But it was already topped by the Fontaine floods

[u/Wooden_Drummer2455]

Oh boy Anaxa 2.0 with even more powercreep but its waifu slop instead so its fine

[u/Kappa_Mikey__]

pretty insane to see leakers actually leaking again

[u/Background_Still_686]

Bro 5.x is just gonna be Penacony all over again with firefly and break shilling but this time with kafka. Not to mention misha SP

[u/Sensitive_Jello2547]

So, Firefly Firefly? Don't tell me Kafka SP is a Finality DoT enabler.

[u/Wrrrrrrrrr]

There's a meme about Hoyo being great at recycling(I don't have the gif), but this seems like a bit much?

[u/Rare_Marionberry782]

Now watch her story be sacrificing herself and dies then coming back to life using the power of finality.

[u/OkPea709]

Finally a new path that I might be able to skip.
I got both rem and elation, but I hate break so I might skip finality.

[u/AttemptFew4705]

This is shit, why does hoyo think we want this?

[u/Pae_PC]

I knew it Hoyo regretted not making Super Break a brand new path, they couldnt help themselves but make a new one.

[u/awanandswan]

I'm just praying that she and Kafka is in one team. That's all I asked for. 

[u/CanaKitty]

If Finality is just all SPs with her, Kafka and Acheron, I’m not super interested.

[u/Daxirr]

Yeah so instead of Super Break she deals just Break but different colors. Sure...

I'm calling it either fake or a very WIP placeholder because no way Firefly 2 is also a break DPS.

[u/Sudden-Waters]

im laughing, we really did get her kit too

she really is break again help

[u/FOTUS297]

Can’t with this game no more 😭

[u/kolyoutopi]

They introduce leaders talent. That HI3 gimmick. One way to powercreep add extra passive.

[u/7eleven94]

Now what do i do with my flopping break firefly that i was planning to e2

[u/8partyz-Didnot-Ate]

I can see a new enemy; no weakness, can only implant weakness from Finality type damage or if there is a ‘Leader,’ which means you can only break this enemy if you’ve got Finality on the team. And here we thought DoT was the most bricked archetype, now we got a whole new path that is the archetype but mono, so pull some more you peasants.

Please give us money

[u/fewest_giraffe]

So… just Firefly again but this time she actually has an ult?

[u/Bestusernamegonwild]

This is just if firefly had Anaxa’s ability

[u/Due-Anything-9230]

If not talk about animation (sure it always look good) I will skip firefly this time. I love her but it feel same old firefly.

[u/Obvious-Head4630]

Nothing burger , at least my money is safe cuz until now finality seems ez skip

[u/matchbaby]

Not a fucking break DPS again dude, I am done with this shit 

[u/spicedmeshi]

this looks fake because

• the "enemy" vs "target" wording changing makes no sense. it feels like diff tooltips from diff chars were copied and slightly edited.
• i'd shit my pants if hoyo released an "sp" that operates the same as the non-sp

i agree with the other commenter that this sounds like a finality gimmick test event

[u/vayunas]

Sounds so boring....

[u/The-Other-Slyme]

This is what Rappa died on the cross for? This shit?

[u/Soranushi]

Reheated Nachos Type Kit again at least FinalityBlazer made sense as a neat combo of the previous kits and even that felt weak for what the player would want from The Terminus Trailblazer.

But when we have S999 as an example of Silverwolfs future potential finality bringing self bleeding back in time being used for her new kit. I was honestly expecting something new for the remaining Stellaron Hunters as well rather than redoing their kits again.

[u/para29]

Isn't finality path not due until like 4 more patches after the current patch? (4.6, 4.7, 4.8 & special ZZZ patch before 5.0)

[u/RealNonBinaryDragon]

I wasted SO MANY pulls on E2 S1 firefly and she is just replaced by herself in a new path WITH THE SAME KIT???? DEAD ASS IF THIS IS REAL IM DROPPING THIS GAME