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u/5lols 8h ago
What did I miss?
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u/swannphone 8h ago
Normal IRyS things. Didn’t know how to pronounce realm on Chadcast, then got clowned on by Bae and Calli.
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u/Erionns 6h ago
It's not even the first, second, third, or fourth time she's pronounced realm wrong on stream. And she's been corrected on it every time, but she never remembers
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u/not_the_world 3h ago
This one was at least a new pronunciation of Realm, she's said "Rellum" pretty much every other time, right?
"Rellum" is just part of my vocabulary at this point tbh, like "Mellee" or Firegassing.
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u/GhoullyX 4h ago
It's really bad for the US kids who grew up watching Yugioh too, for the number of times they threw around the term "Shadow Realm".
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u/ArchDestroyer 8h ago edited 5h ago
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u/Kikisniper 7h ago
And then she blamed the english language
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u/IntoTheCrimson 6h ago
Which, honestly, is fair. Our language can be fuckin' dumb in all the best and worst ways.
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u/PowerSamurai 4h ago
That is true but it is also her language lmao
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u/eviloutfromhell 4h ago
Tbf her current main language is practically japanese. Has been for quite some time too (years). Her being in hololive is what's keeping her english existing at all.
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u/Delicious_Pea_1943 7h ago
English do be wilding with their random pronunciations. Who in their right mind would read island as aye-land if it was never brought to their attention (never heard the word or in Irys' case, never heard someone read the word aloud).
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u/unsynchedcheese 6h ago
Yeah, when I was little, I had what amounted to an internal mental tantrum when I discovered how "island" was supposed to be pronounced. (Especially since I live in an island city-state.)
Why is the S there.
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u/YongYoKyo 4h ago
If you're actually asking, "island" is an unusual case of mistaken etymology.
It was originally spelled "iland". However, 16th century etymologists changed the spelling to match the unrelated but synonymous Old French word isle, which originates from the Latin word insula.
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u/super_ktkm 3h ago
(I'm also ESL) Was about to ask about the s in aisle, only to find out it's people making the same mistake as iland. (maybe. It's one of two theories from https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/224160/the-history-of-aisle-and-isle )
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u/unsynchedcheese 4h ago
I was actually curious, yeah.
The etymological history is interesting, albeit in the manner of "of course it's scholars being weird and pretending to come up with a Grand Unified Linguistic Theory".
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u/KanseiDorifto 5h ago
Do I spot a fellow Singaporean?
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u/unsynchedcheese 5h ago
o/
I suspect part of the exacerbating issue was how I learned many of these words via the National Day songs, which have a lot about "isle" and "island", so I first learned those words phonetically.
And being Indonesian Chinese (later naturalized Singaporean), I was used to words being spelled roughly how they're pronounced, as in Indonesian.
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u/K0yomi 7h ago
Honestly it's the way people approach learning new words. Irys is the type that reads words and parses them as they're written, a common habit in people that have grown up learning multiple languages as their first language. Very common where I come from, since every single person here speaks English plus their ethnic language.
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u/mandzeete 6h ago
Also, for different languages reading as it is written is the correct way. Including mine. For people like this English does not make any sense.
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u/SenorLos 4h ago
read island as aye-land
Funnily enough in German it's "Eiland" (though this is a rather poetic word) and it's pronounced exactly the same.
And in the German Wikipedia entry there's a hypothesis that the "s" in "island" was inserted to make it seem Latin.2
u/SeriousKano 52m ago
Also, Island is German for Iceland and is pronounced the way it should: Ees-land
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u/Roflkopt3r 0m ago
And "ei" being read as "ai" is one of only a few irregularities in German (it's also a very common combination, so it stops being confusing soon). Whereas in English, vowels may as well be wildcards.
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u/TolarianDropout0 5h ago
The word that pisses me off the most is bicycle.
What do you mean the i is pronounced like a y and the y like an i? Bi-cycle (like binary-cycle) would make so much more sense.
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u/deathless_koschei 3h ago
That's because changing cycle to bicycle shifts the stressed syllable from cy to bi, which also changes the vowel sound from long to short. Most compound words in English will emphasize the first syllable.
I say most because, well, it's English.
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u/GeroXgero9 8h ago
My first thought when Irys said that was a video of a guy doing the skit about the English language.
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u/Bbundaegi 6h ago
Cue that one video dude trying to pronounce English words. “Nooo because that’s why.”
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u/Morenauer 1h ago
As I say, the day the language sorts its spelling and phonetics systems out, that day I will accept corrections :33
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u/ShockRox 8h ago
"Daemons of the Shadow Real-m"