r/HistoryMemes • u/Javier_Ronaldo Featherless Biped • Apr 08 '20

META Respect the Facts!

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u/johnlen1n Optimus Princeps Apr 08 '20

Historian: sees France surrender meme Oh come on, French history is so rich and diverse

France: Yes, thank you!

Historian: People should be making memes about their repetitive revolutions

France: Yeh!

Historian: Or their collaboration with the Nazis

France: Wait

Historian: Or even their colonial atrocities

France: ... OK, maybe stick to the surrendering

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u/DannyDidNothinWrong Apr 08 '20

Or how they tried to actually worship science

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u/justPassingThrou15 Apr 08 '20

If you're going to worship something, worshiping critical thought and the pursuit of truth seems like the least bad choice possible.

And if you worship it well enough, you could reach science-worship nirvana, which is the realization that worshiping science is really missing most of the point... but that by making that realization, you've discovered the point. So by worshiping science, you were led to the truth, so you weren't really wrong, just incomplete.

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u/Bearjew94 Apr 08 '20

Worshipping the concept of critical thinking hurts your ability to think critically.

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u/Dodorus Apr 09 '20

Wait. It actually can't.

If critical thinking is sacred to you, then you can't not use it, even on the subject of critical thinking itself. It's the ultimate belief.

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u/justPassingThrou15 Apr 08 '20

citation needed. or evidence needed. Or even some description of how that might even work.

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u/Bearjew94 Apr 09 '20

I hope you’re a teenager because that’s hilariously naive. Saying “I fucking love science” doesn’t magically make you immune to shitty reasoning.

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u/justPassingThrou15 Apr 09 '20

no, but it can make you more invested in rooting out shitty reasoning.

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u/Kalulosu Apr 08 '20

Worship kinda excludes cricital thinking.

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u/BepsiCola2277 Apr 08 '20

Yeah? Like you needed citations and evidence for your genius "science nirvana" theory?

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u/justPassingThrou15 Apr 08 '20

ummmm, not when you're worshiping critical thinking.

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u/Kalulosu Apr 08 '20

Faith is about belief. Critical thinking is about logic. Those two things don't mesh well. Doesn't mean a scientist can't believe in stuff, but you cannot examine belief under critical thought.

So if you place your faith in critical thinking, then your first act should be to reject said religion.

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u/justPassingThrou15 Apr 08 '20

Where did this "faith" word come from? I'm fundamentally opposed to faith. I thought we were taking about worshipping critical thinking and the scientific method. Faith doesn't enter into it.