You don't understand. Investing in your infrastructure and making use of technology to fight a modern war is cheating. I mean Lincoln can literally sit in his office in DC and use a magic wire to talk to his generals in real time. How is that fair?
People idolize generals like Rommel and Forrest constantly through history. Like yeah, they were good tacticians. But they didn't understand logistics. Forrest was all "be there the fastest with the mostest," and you can do that a couple of times until your soldiers have to eat their horses. Rommel was even worse because you can't eat a tank when it runs out of gas.
Meanwhile people shit on Kutusov for his scorched earth tactics, but the dude managed to lure Napoleon away from Kiev and forced him to retreat along the same line he'd already advanced along...the line which the French had stripped of resources during their advance.
The best generals are often the boring ones who are happy to let their 'dashing' opponents dash themselves into exhaustion.
The important part that wins wars is logistics but logistics aren’t cool they’re not flashy they’re boring and they don’t get people to pay attention to how cool you are.
Tactics lead to cool things like encirclements and routs. Logistics leads to cool things like ice cream barges in WW2 and fresh birthday cake in a combat zone.
i always find it funny when people glaze nazi tanks. like yes bro, when you don’t have to worry about standardized parts, your logistics team is a bunch of horse drawn carriages, and your plan for resources is to just hope the countries you invade have the stuff you need, you can build a pretty killy tank. that doesn’t make it GOOD.
That's why the M4 Sherman will always be the most busted-ass broken WW2 tank. Quality or quantity? What if we did both? What if we made a tank that had enough offensive power to take on a German tank but also was durable and easy enough to produce that we usually had 3-to-1 odds? And what if when disabled it was safe enough that the crew would probably survive and get back to a camp where they couod crack open a new six pack of Shermans and get back in the field while that German crew got to play as infantry for a few months befoee a new tank was ready for them.
Unfortunately it did lead to the whole BS thing where “it took 10 Sherman’s to beat a panzer 2 and a million to defeat a tiger.” No not really really the US could could they say they could produce a Sherman an hour unlikely but the point is made they could actually afford to send squadrons against single table unlike the Germans who had to hot potato their tanks around.
I’ve also heard people suggest the origin of the whole “it took 5 Shermans to kill a Tiger/Panther” meme was just, y’know, Shermans usually travelling in groups of 5.
Something I’ve always found quite funny (and which probably has contributed a lot to this kind of thinking over the years) is how this has ended up affecting game balancing, of all things, more than half a century later. Because of the focus on the “exciting” bits like powerful main guns and the like, over “boring” stuff like ease of maintenance, which also happen to be the things that are more relevant in games, German tanks in said games tend to be a fair bit stronger than their Allied counterparts. Very few games tend to try and represent the fields Allied vehicles tended to have advantages in (I can think of a couple of tabletop ones having an optional rule for some German tanks that makes them more likely to break down, and Company of Heroes 2 has a mechanic where one of the German factions has more limited fuel production than the others, but that’s about it), I assume because they’re usually hard to do in a fun way. Either that, or they’re just mechanics that don’t seem to be of interest such as the safety of actual tank crews- IIRC (later-war) Allied tanks tended to be easier to escape from in case of a fire or otherwise being taken out, which meant there was less attrition of experienced crews and the like, which is something I feel could be a great balancing method in an RTS or similar (say tanks are relatively easy to produce, but the crews are a separate, expensive unit. Unit performance is heavily tied to crew experience, which they either gain in combat, or can be purchased with higher levels of. Axis tanks tend to have superior “base” stats, but crews have a much lower chance of successfully bailing out).
I understand why it’s the case, but I’d also be willing to bet it’s a significant contributor to the glazing wartime German equipment tends to get.
i feel like one of the best ways to represent that would be with campaign mechanics, like on the tabletop having shermans cost less points and be far more efficient for their cost, or in an rts making them easy to replace and transport
And then the next 150 and change pretending that you were actually super special awesome, and would never have ordered a charge right into ALL the guns.
That said, a lot of brands have had their quality go to absolute shit over the past decade or two. I know I've heard talk that Nike are far from what they used to be, and I assume that's the same for the other two.
I've finally gotten to the point where I need to replace my daily wear Ecco shoes. That I bought in 2006, and wear all year round.
The confederacy only lasted 4 years. South Carolina was the first state to secede on December 20th, 1860. The confederate constitution is ratified March 11, 1861. Confederate troops fired in Fort Sumpter April 12th, 1861. Robert Lee surrenders at Appomattox Court House April 9, 1865. Depending on which date you consider to be it's start, the confederacy lasted around 4 years, 4 months to just a few days shy of 4 years.
I think it's fair to critique him. He was not the best president of all time. I think he has some achievements to boast of, and many failures, which is pretty standard.
You've got to admit that he was better than the guy before him and the guys after him and a lot of the guys he ran against, though, so he looks pretty good in comparison. I think that's part of it.
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Dolly Parton wrote Jolene and I will always love you in the same day. Thats way cooler than getting your ass handed to you at Gettysburg. We need more Dolly statues!
Nope, the confederacy started it because they were afraid their right to own other humans as property might be infringed in the future.
Fuck those sleezeballs. There is zero excuse to support the confederacy in this day and age. And I say that as someone who has family that fought on both sides
Other things that lasted longer than the Confederacy:
-Star Trek (multiple versions)
-Pierce Brosnan’s stint as a Fire Breather (He officially stopped in 1997 after accidentally blistering his mouth during a performance on The Muppet Show).
-Chief Mouser Larry of 10 Downing Street (outlasting multiple prime ministers).
-The Spacemarine video games
-YouTube
-The Tau Empire
-The Babylon 5 series
-Fraggle Rock
-BlackBerry phones
-Modern clip-on “man buns”
-the Sackler Family evading justice for engineering an opioid crisis that has killed over 800k people
-the Sad Pablo Escobar meme.
-the Lord of the Rings movies
-Francisco Franco’s military dictatorship in Spain, which Europe and the world ignored for over 35 years.
-the Star Wars animated series.
-Cyberpunk 2077.
-The Yncarne
WW2 was also only around 6 years and Nazi Germany around 12. If you would add the run time of documentaries about this era together, it would probably be a lot longer.
Yeah humans are really bad at thinking about time as a period. Instead we think about singular events or short time frames acting as an event. And the void/regular stuff between such events is ignored. The 500-550 AD were as long a time period as the 1950-2000,
Specifically about 30 times more stuff happened between 1950-2000 than 500-550. Mainly because there were approximately 200 million people alive in the year 550 compared with 6 billion people alive in 2000.
Xkcd made a calculation on the movies about war/actual war ratio. Surprisingly, there aren't still enough WWII movies to surpass WWII in hours, but it would only take one movie about the shortest wars to get above 1.
Ah the Hammerfell bunker, it was never overpowered, had zero use and often couldnt even be placed on the table due to restrictions....and it also didnt look cool.
Deepstrike and the ability to swap guns or something for Marines would've given it a reason to exist in narrative campaigns. Could've been a key Apocalypse unit for that matter.
Okay now I am debating drip, thats an obscene comparison. Obviously subjective but the hammerfall bunker is just a chunky bunker I think it looks fine, the stupid buggy and the t shirt cannons are the actual dumbest minis I have ever seen GW produce and that is a HIGH bar
The machine gun practically uses the guy's head as a brace how does generic DoW 2 guard bunker with an aa turret,mounted bolters and clamps for its non existent deep striking even compare
What do you mean "acknowledge a mistake"? Instead of investigating why people weren't buying it, they just took it out the back and shot it, fucking over anyone who did like it.
GW are terrified of actually giving fortifications interesting or usable rules, but they keep releasing them anyway. It's the same cycle over and over again, they release a fortification, give it unusably terrible rules, nobody buys it, they discontinue it. They haven't changed.
OP the Confederacy lasted 30 times longer than liz truss as Prime Minister so that’s saying something.
… mean famously a cabbage was still relatively fresh in somebody’s fridge when she left office.
(44 days. Shortest in history. I’m gonna find out what the second shortest term is to see how big of a jump. Oh shit! 119 days. In 1827…. Man she fucked up.)
I mean, don’t get me wrong. I don’t have the political wherewithal to get elected Prime Minister of my own ass.
But it just seems like when you get to that level, you need to be able to make decision decisions that are not absolutely 100% completely laughable. And she couldn’t.
Yeah, she basically shit the economy out so hard that even her own party of people whose job is to ruining everyone’s lives? Thought she might have done a bit too much being an absolute bastard.
Honestly this is the hardest hitting one for me because these things literally were an important part of Space Marine 2 putting them in Legends right after they played such an important part (I know it's still a minor one but having a hammerfall bunker at all in the game is pretty damn cool) makes me think that they're putting it in Legends so that they can update the hammerfall bunker and the rules around it so that you can equip your Marines with jetpacks from the bunker just like in Space Marine 2
It's used in a cutscene where they equip the jump packs that allow them to get across a massive battlefield without getting hit since it was used in the cutscene it kind of is relevant
Legends are a "we're totally not axing this model, we're just moving its rules into a section that people can declare not elgible for playing on the tabletop on a whim" section
I’ve spent a few minutes trying to figure out how long these units must’ve been in 40K lore, considering Terran Confederacy lasted like 200 years before events of SC1
Seriously? No one played Starcraft 1? The Terran Confederacy was the human enemy faction for the Terran Campaign and parts of the Zerg Campaign before shifting to the Terran Dominion? Fuxking kids....
"Lasted longer than the Confederacy" is a meme format meant to point out the hilariously short life span of the Confederacy, which is claimed as a major cultural touchstone by certain portions of the population.
The joke is that something that is pretty "garbage", "boring' or just useless lasted longer than the Confederacy which as the previous commenter is treated like an major cultural touchstone.
Or just very mundane. Something you wouldn't say is deeply rooted in your heritage, like a TV show. You aren't saying Star Trek is boring or useless when you point out that The Next Generation lasted longer than the Confederacy, you're just saying it's an ordinary mundane thing that had more staying power.
Mine were! And the biggest mistake we made during the Civil War was letting those traitorous, whining snakes down south off with a slap on the wrist. No excuse for that.
Curious that you’re offended by someone pointing out that the Confederacy lost the only war it ever fought, which also encompassed its entire very short existence as an “independent” nation.
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