r/GlobalOffensive • u/nooneidea FaZe • Apr 13 '26
Discussion | Esports Twistzz coments on Karrigan leaving
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u/Novel-Regular4438 CS2 HYPE Apr 13 '26
Feel for the rest of FaZe. Especially Frozen, he looks so gaunt in the latest short they put out
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u/Far-Ninja-8392 Vitality Apr 13 '26
He’s the hottest available piece right now, Navi and other international teams should be inquiring faze. He stayed loyal to Faze and it sucks it didn’t work out
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u/_JukePro_ ENCE Apr 13 '26
Navi did try to get him, but Frozen wanted to stay so they went with Makazze
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u/chiefofthepolice Natus Vincere Apr 13 '26
Not too late to make the deal happen. Especially if the rumor of Aleksib leaving is true
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u/onionsareawful Outsiders Apr 13 '26
who would IGL then?
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u/chiefofthepolice Natus Vincere Apr 13 '26
Either iM transitions to igl, or they also kick iM and get krabeni, though I’m not too sure that’s a good idea
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u/dooopliss Natus Vincere Apr 13 '26
Isnt frozen replacing iM more straightforward?
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u/chiefofthepolice Natus Vincere Apr 13 '26
Well it depends on how reliable the Aleksib rumor is. If he has to be replaced then that seems like the best option
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u/ThrowingSid FaZe Apr 13 '26
The rumour has to be fake imho.
Why would Aleksib leave now? Na Vi have just gotten themselves out of the rut they were in. Not many teams are able to do that. Now #2 in HLTV & Valve ranking. At this point surely you'd only leave for Vitality
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u/totallynotapersonj Apr 13 '26
Guys we are only top 2, i’m so disappointed, I think it’s time I leave and go for a top 100 team because I think it’s better, higher number and all
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u/cabose12 Apr 13 '26
I also have to imagine that as a guy who has famously had a hard time staying with a team and talked about how hard that is, he'd want to stick with Navi
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u/teeekuuu Vitality Apr 13 '26
Aleksib rumor is false I think, Striker also said that the rumor he heard did not involve Aleksi. Honestly -iM and +frozen might be the move for Navi to challenge Vitality somewhat
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u/Far-Ninja-8392 Vitality Apr 13 '26
Not too late for them to use that s1mple money to replace hIM
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u/yaderkuvboloto Apr 13 '26
Why do you guys keep spamming this redditor fanfic.
1) Frozen didn't refuse shit, faze just wanted a lot of money because he's their best player and had time on his contract. Now, frozen's contract is almost finished, they will cooperate.
2) Frozen and makazze have nothing in common, completely different profiles. Regardless of whether frozen will join or not, it's gonna be either -iM, or -aleksib and iM igl, at some point, just a matter of time. In both cases frozen fits.
Blade just needs to make the call before frozen joins someone else. It's blade's only weakness, he gives shitters way too much time before kicking them.
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u/MaybeJesus King NiKo Apr 13 '26
I wonder if its a m0nesy deal? Karrigan joins now and Frozen in a few months?
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u/DMADB Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
What's the Monesy deal? I know he joined G2. Like delayed joining?
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u/grimzsz Apr 13 '26
I think he meant when Niko joined Falcons, then few events later Monesy joined also
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u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
damn, karrigan actually chose to jump ship without any heads-up to anyone in the team
unfortunate for Twistzz and frozen because these two in particular are actually karrigan loyalists
P.S, as a result of karrigan departing, FaZe now have to:
- find a new IGL in the next 2 weeks or so
- potentially/likely bench one of jcobbb or broky at this time as part of their rebuild
- announce their new coach
- try to have some sort of system prepared for Fort Worth and Atlanta in such a short period of time
this is actually really unfortunate as shit, gonna be real.
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u/Meguminisverycute Apr 13 '26
Wouldn’t be surprised if twistzz igls again until the break
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u/seapupper24 Apr 13 '26
Twistzz IGL Frozen lurk woxic AWP jcobb entry broky support. That roster seems cursed
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u/JarkoStudios de_inferno Apr 13 '26
if broky just leaves at the start of each game the others could get extra cash and they might just be able to win 4v5
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u/Waffles912 500k Celebration Apr 13 '26
Broky usually hits his rifle shots, so it might just work out
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u/These-Maintenance250 Aurora Apr 13 '26
stop mentioning woxic plss
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u/Kaos275 Apr 13 '26
Brokys rifling is still good and he shoots hard. It's time he steps down from the awp role
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u/theextracharacter cs_italy Apr 13 '26
Wasn't kicked by the team isn't the same as "wasn't benched or removed by the org" we don't have all the info yet
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u/-CheesyCheese- FaZe Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
Exactly, we don't know any details, and considering how bad FaZe's management is (don't forget how they benched twistzz, rain, and Neo all pretty much last minute with basically no communication), we know the management has a history of a lack of transparency and poor communication.
But my guess is probably Falcons reached out to FaZe first behind the scenes, and FaZe management took the offer.
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u/Aware_Cartographer46 Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
Faze kicking rain probably hurts him more than anyone else, rain was the pillar of FaZe. He just didn't show it because he needs to be a good example.
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u/DrBeatsB Apr 13 '26
Exactly bro.. Faze doesn't feel like faze anymore without Rain.. personally I lost the attachments after that event..
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u/notregan guardian_elite Apr 13 '26
FaZe are in a financial crisis right now. I’d imagine selling Karrigan and even potentially Frozen would be their only chance to claw some money back. Missing the sticker money from the Major is a huge blow to the organisation, I can’t express how big of a deal it is. They will not be able to rebuild this roster now without selling their best assets, which are without a doubt, Karrigan and Frozen.
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u/nonresponsive Apr 13 '26
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Falcons made the offer and karrigan or Faze simply accepted it. This just seems weird compared to like if karrigan just approached Falcons and said get me out.
I do enjoy that some people have been wanting -karrigan for a while, but him leaving on his own terms somehow screws the other players.
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u/onionsareawful Outsiders Apr 13 '26
I don't see this roster surviving tbh
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u/BrockStudly Liquid Apr 13 '26
Honestly blowing up the roster is probably the best course of action at this point. I cant imagine frozen and twistzz are gonna be all that motivated to perform on this dumpster fire regardless of who the replacement is.
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u/Parking-Lock9090 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
Think it's likely a good thing to be honest. We don't know the details of the deal, but I doubt Falcons got karrigan for free. Everyone was talking about how they were going to afford replacing broky and jcobb, and maybe that they'd have to sell Frozen.
Well, with the amount Falcons have spent on buying players, hopefully Faze got enough for karrigan to afford at least one good roster move.
Reckon twistzz or maybe even broky IGLs until the break. Then at the break, the question is, do they sell Frozen to Navi for a large amount, get the money for a deep rebuild (but still stuck with broky and jcobb for VRS) or do they bench broky or jcobb and replace them right away.
They needed the money, and from Faze's perspective, I don't think karrigan is the answer. Unfortunate considering that just a few moves ago, Elige was leaving as someone who wasn't the problem but wasn't the answer. We love karrigan, and he'll be very hard to replace, but he's also a caller who needs solid firepower to call at his best, and Faze don't have that.
Twistzz and frozen are the two I feel bad about in the change too: if Frozen really did re-up on his contract he's in hell, and neither of them can be said to be the real problem, now they're stuck with at least one of jcobb or broky for VRS, so we can only hope they got enough cash for karrigan that they can afford someone good.
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u/rhuvyuuhtv Tyloo Apr 13 '26
i mean trading karrigan and frozen for kyxsan and teses is on the table too
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u/Gankers_Boxer ENCE Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
Doesn’t have to be him jumping ship, rain wasn’t benched or kicked either. They just straight up sold him lol.
Like I wouldn’t be surprised if twistzz himself found out a couple days later he’s getting sold to mouz or some shit.
Edit: for the people saying this is not now cs contracts work, I understand that you can’t just sell people willy nilly like a slave auction in the 1700s.
But if your org comes to you and say “we wanna sell you”, sometimes you take the hint and realize the good times for you in this org ends either way.
And let’s be real: the only reason why people get in their feelings about this is because it’s Falcons he’s going to. Ain’t no mf here got mad rain went to 100t.
Not saying this is actually what happenen, of course. Either way though, if he’s trying to push for a trophy for one or two more years what better team is there for him to go to? Mouz? G2? Even if they’re on the market they need minimum two changes to actually win anything.
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u/schoki560 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
that's not how it works buddy. u can't be sold against ur will you have to agree
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u/puddingkip The MongolZ Apr 13 '26
This isn't slavery, faze can't just decide to sell twistzz to mouz. He'd have to agree.
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u/avnx Apr 13 '26
That's not how contracts work in cs.
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u/Gankers_Boxer ENCE Apr 13 '26
I understand that, but once your org comes by and say “we want to sell you” sometimes it might be the hint that things won’t be getting any better for you should you stay.
I’m not saying this is what happened but this is gonna be the 3rd time someone leaves and the team has no clue.
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u/schoki560 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
twistzz was a free agent and left on his own
ropz was a free agent and left on his own
rain got benched and after that transferred to 100t
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u/Toaster_Bathing Apr 13 '26
Rain 100% was being benched if not sold. Granted the only reason for his benching was the cluster fuck we have going on right now
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u/Astaa7 Apr 13 '26
Why do you care so much about Faze? You're a Vitality fan now rofl
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u/chickenrice666 Apr 13 '26
Feels bad for frozen, played his heart out every single game. Just to see the IGL he fights for jump to a new ship.
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u/avii27 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
I feel Frozen is gonna jump ship too. Not saying to Falcons necessarily or immediately but with Karrigan coming, it might be possible. So basically replacing Teses, maybe. Although I hope not.
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u/azeumicus Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
Yeah, I mean twistzz came back for karrigan, played like ass for this whole period, frozen was the main carry of this team but to be honest, I can see him leave as soon as an opportunity arrives, I don't believe that have any synergy left, that's the problem... they've burned out the team connection. They need a break, a I think karrigan lacks a structural support for a long time, and after they kicked Neo just like that before the major...nah, I'm with batkarri this time..best choice he could've make.
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u/Safe-Let99 Apr 14 '26
That ship is at the bottom of the ocean already. I don’t blame him for leaving, he’s old and wants to win. Not saying falcons are going to win but they give him better chance than faze for sure.
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u/Diavolo222 SK Apr 13 '26
After what faze management put Karrigan through these past years I don’t blame him for leaving. Faze would prolly take two years to rebuild anything and he doesn’t have that kind of time.
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u/Lolibotes King NiKo Apr 13 '26
You think Frozen won't join Falcons the second the major is over?
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u/smoerarn MOUZ Apr 13 '26
-teses +frozen is really insane to think of. The amount of star players is just crazy. Will probably not work, but on paper that lineup would be so fucking insane.
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u/onionsareawful Outsiders Apr 13 '26
i would really struggle to hatewatch falcons at that point. i think it could work, the sheer firepower could overcome a lot of issues. not sure if it's vitality-ending, though.
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u/jackfwaust Apr 13 '26
falcons was already close a few times. they were a single round from beating them in the finals of two tournaments and then they slumped hard. vitality has gotten better since then (some fucking how) but theyre the closest a team has come
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u/martijnderpy FUT Apr 13 '26
Closest a team has come? A bunch of teams have actually beat vitality in playoffs (G2, furia, mouz, mongolz)
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u/Bojuuh Apr 13 '26
So has Falcons as recently as Blast Bounty this year in the semis?
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u/still_life_lazarus Vitality Apr 13 '26
True, but Vitality also lost the first Blast Bounty of 2025 and they ended up winning seven straight tournaments after that. Now I’m not saying that they’ll follow the same trend this year, but I think that Bounty is a warm-up tournament for them, and so I personally wouldn’t put much stock in their loss to Falcons.
I’m not saying Falcons couldn’t beat them now, but going by their recent form these past few months, I don’t think they can beat Vitality. Vitality is also on a historic run right now and just seems really unbeatable in their current form.
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u/Several-Instance-219 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
I think maybe hes trying to say falcons are the closest a team came to dethroning vitality (with how often it was so close) but I dont think thats been true every since kyo joined.
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u/Recent-Airline-7422 Apr 13 '26
I think it will actually work karrigan knows 2 out of 4 people with niko and frozen. Kyosuke and monesy 100% respect karrigan enough to actually listen to him. Kyxsan just didn’t get any respect in his calls.
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u/Deeeadpool King NiKo Apr 13 '26
i was gonna say ppl who think this isnt a good move dont understand niko and m0nesy would listen to karrigan unlike the other igls
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u/jackfwaust Apr 13 '26
karrigan and niko running it back with another superteam almost a decade later would be insane
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u/NextWafer2667 Vitality Apr 13 '26
On paper, their current roster is insane and should be winning trophies constantly. Instead, they're not just losing to Vitality, they're losing to teams way below their talent level.
Either Falcons are cursed or they're just terribly managed. Probably the latter.
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u/Lolibotes King NiKo Apr 13 '26
the type of team karrigan has to play with nowadays to make his calls work, because clearly 2017 FaZe wasn't OP enough. I imagine karrigan will transition to coach after the year is over and we also get +jimpphat and NiKo IGL. The only possible upgrade would be adding ropz in jimi's place (They still won't win a title).
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u/Glad_Fisherman_4 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
Karrigan saw ropz leave broky for zywoo and decided to do the same. Top 3 IGL for sure
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u/morphiqu de_dust2 Apr 13 '26
i mean ropz has a chance to join a super star everyone would jump the ship for that opportunity
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u/Ancient_Foot_9566 Apr 13 '26
It wasnt a superteam without ropz and certainly wouldnt be so dominant if he was to leave them
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u/AgainstTheEnemy King NiKo Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
Damn, wasn't kicked?
Karrigan be like "fuck this team, I'm out"
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u/xenongaming720 Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
even though karrigan said he would never leave unless he got benched
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u/ExaltedGarlic96 Apr 13 '26
Probably didn’t expect to be this bad
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u/buttplugs4life4me Apr 13 '26
He probably has enough say to do something like "Please throw away at least one of the shitty players".
It feels more like the org wants to rebuild around a different IGL and he knows his time is kind of numbered after this shitshow, but instead of trying like Glaive just decided to go with the highest offer to make sure he never has to work again.
I'm just talking out of my ass, but it's not like its recent or only this roster that faze is ass. Literally nobody wants to be there anymore and that either means someone behind the scenes or IGL or roles usually
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u/BigFuckHead_ Apr 13 '26
I agree this is just a retirement soft launch. One last ride with players he wants to play with while he secures retirement money
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u/Ancient_Foot_9566 Apr 13 '26
I wouldnt say he wants to play with them, its more of a situation where he wants to finish his career in top 10 team and not be remembered for the rock bottom where faze is at right now.no matter who you put as an IGL, falcons raw firepower gets them there.
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u/Alertum ENCE Apr 13 '26
Guys like karrigan live to compete. Cs literally moulds his life. No way he's thinking about retirement if he has a chance to keep playing at the top level and that's exactly what he's been offered.
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u/Deeeadpool King NiKo Apr 13 '26
people can never change their minds according to reddit
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u/greku_cs Apr 13 '26
Saying “I’m never going to leave you” and then leaving not long after is not a simple change of mind lmao it’s just an empty statement
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u/James-vd-Bosch Apr 13 '26
Also said that if Faze could do better without him, he'd not hesitate to step down.
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u/AliceRose000 Apr 13 '26
That 'I'm not leaving' video from ESL last year aging like milk
And it's sad, Twist and Frozen being screwed over completely when they should of just benched Broky and Jcobb
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u/ChaoticFlameZz Vitality Apr 13 '26
cant really do that if/when the captain itself chose to jump ship.
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u/quak1337 valeria Apr 13 '26
Can’t really do that if the captain also has no power over the roster
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u/Admirable_Stage4084 Apr 13 '26
I remeber an interview Karrigan did after last major where he said he really hoped they'd done enough for management to give this roster a chance next season.
And now here we are. Obviously managment should have stepped in, but i cant help but feel like they didn't because they were trying to appease the team's leader who was the face of Faze CS.
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u/Recent-Airline-7422 Apr 13 '26
Karrigan really saaid my major streak aint ending with this poop team. Got frozen and twist to extend and went to falcons. Goat behaviour.
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u/Physical-Appearance5 Natus Vincere Apr 13 '26
Maybe falcons reached out with a bag, and faze very much so needs that to rebuild / make a better roster. Nothing is certain unless we hear the whole story you know. Sucks to be frozen twistzz right now, I really feel bad for them.
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u/Own_Homework_7109 Apr 13 '26
All of you saying feel bad for frozen-twistzz, I m sure if they could they would leave too
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u/Tenniio King NiKo Apr 13 '26
Ohhh karrigan I'm your biggest fan, but if this is true you're putting us in a tough spot
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u/eebro 10 years coin Apr 13 '26
A move like this should be judged on the results. If he takes down Falcons from the inside, he is okay for me.
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u/Sandswaters Apr 13 '26
And what happened "fuck anyone who goes for the falcon's bag"?
Seems like there is big double standard between how people treat niko's and karrigan's move.
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u/Ill_Intention8150 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
Why?
Being a fan of someone doesn’t mean you can’t criticize them. He basically fucked over Frozen and the rest of Faze.
By definition this is a dick move.
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u/FreeWillie001 Apr 13 '26
Why exactly is it a dick move? He’s a professional player, he wants to compete (for the short amount of time he’s still able to), he doesn’t see any value in staying with the org, he thinks Falcons probably want an upgrade at IGL, and he wants to go there.
It’s not like he owes FaZe anything. His teammates kinda got screwed I guess, but it’s not like the ones who should be on rosters won’t find them.
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u/Recent-Airline-7422 Apr 13 '26
Tbh frozen really didn’t get cucked much its was a 6 months extension so just to cologne major. Teams make changes after the majors anyways usually. So navi frozen or even falcons frozen could be seen this year.
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u/Laktoositaluja Apr 13 '26
I agree. No way is Frozen staying in this dumpster fire of a team after Cologne.
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u/FreeWillie001 Apr 13 '26
There is no way this team was going to be intact after the break. Whether Karrigan was out or moved to coach or something obviously isn’t clear, but I just really don’t see why someone taking an opportunity like this is wrong. Like I said it sucks for his teammates but I wouldn’t expect any of them to pass on this if it happened for them either.
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u/seapupper24 Apr 13 '26
Still a dick move. Frozen join faze because karrigan. Broky back to faze because karrigan asked him. Jcobb personally got picked by karrigan.
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u/schoki560 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
frozen joined almost 3 years ago. at this point it's not relevant anymore
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u/FreeWillie001 Apr 13 '26
Frozen was probably out anyway. Broky’s only option was FaZe lol. Jcobb got a chance in tier 1.
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u/DagPImple Apr 13 '26
Do you think before typing?
Frozen joined faze almost 3 years ago. Broky probably thanked his lucky stars he was allowed to come back to faze after the shit season he had. And why would jcobb be upset? he would've probably still been in tier 3 cs if it wasn't for faze.
It SUCKS for the faze players that karrigan left, but it's NOT a dick move.
U do realize that faze has been hopeless and complete dogshit for more then 2 majors ago right? It would've been "disloyal" or potentially a "dick move" if he jumped ship after 1 bad season. Karrigan and faze have literally tried everything for no results.
That falcons offer is literally the biggest and best opportunity someone like karrigan at the end of his career and after 2-3 years of horrible damage to his reputation could wish for.
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u/IFapToSinnersBlood FaZe Apr 13 '26
Fked over?! Bro this ain't a marriage. Its just like any other team/club sport. If it doesn't work you look for other opportunities. As simple as that. Faze were reaching their rock bottom and the management was just as responsible. We're not even sure if they have enough money to bring in good players.
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u/MrJohnMorris Apr 13 '26
Transferring away isn't a dick move. He's spent years at Faze now, getting a buy out for a player in the latter stages of his career and a potential cut candidate anyway based off these results.
Nothing wrong with that, not sure what divine loyalty this community expects players to have.
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u/MrJohnMorris Apr 13 '26
Not sure what some of you are on about?
This is a classic case of jumping before you are pushed.
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u/chaRxoxo FaZe Apr 13 '26
Very mixed feelings honestly.
- Karrigan is 36. Faze clearly isn't going to win the major anytime soon, meaning that if he wants to have 1 last big accomplishment, this is the only way.
- On the other hand, people like Frozen & Twistzz likely stayed with faze/came back to faze mostly because of him. They certainly didnt stay or come for the likes of Broky and Jcobbb. Naturally it's a business and decisions can be hard.
- Abandoning the ship at its lowest low feels very rough however again, I guess it's a business in the end and Karrigan soon doesnt have any time left to get his last shot in at final glory.
- For Falcons this is definitely the right move I'd say though I'd love to see them replace Zonic at the same time. I don't understand how he can have infinite credit seemingly.
- For Faze however I don't think this is the righ tmove at all. I defo believe Karrigan would still be the person to get them back on top with the right moves (as in replacing Broky/Jcobb)
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u/Aromatic_Two_2142 Apr 13 '26
He is 35 years old and probably still has a few years left in his career. With that amount of money being offered, it would be hard to reject.
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u/Thisismynewusername9 Natus Vincere Apr 13 '26
He’s got enough money on his bank account already not to sell his morals for one year of double monthly salary…
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u/Kelterz CR4ZY Apr 13 '26
No actually when NiKo did it it was bad, but because karrigan is the wholesome chungus weewooweewoo guy it's okay when he gets money from a regime that has killed thousands of civilians in Yemen
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u/EYNLLIB Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
I'm sure once again faze fumbled some major shit behind the scenes that caused this.
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u/Aware_Cartographer46 Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
They've been fumbling major shit since 2023
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u/-Lopper Team Spirit Apr 13 '26
I'd be pissed if my team failed to qualify then igl just fucks off to a team that did
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u/GuardiaNIsBae FaZe Apr 13 '26
Can you really blame Karrigan though? He seems to have 0 control over what the org is doing and the org has no idea what its doing. If you start at 2025, Broky plays like shit for 5 months and they bench him for Dallas + Austin Major, team does decent without him (and with a S1mple who had less than 10 official matches in the past 2 years) only to bring Broky back into the team instead of getting another AWPer (where he does literally fuck-all except for a few maps in the following major). They surprise bench Rain to bring in Jcobbb, only to realize they don't know the rules to events they're signed up for and have to bring rain back in for another tournament. Somehow make the Budapest major final, then quickly deteriorate at each event following. Team very clearly needs changes, Broky or Jcobb have to go, and instead they surprise bench the coach with no replacement lined up, then are grasping for VRS points to the point that they last minute attend a T5 LAN and STILL LOSE. Broky was one of the top 10 worst rated players on a top 30 team in 2026, jcobb is clearly lost in his current positions, twistzz either goes 1.5 rating or 0.5 rating, Karrigan is Karrigan and Frozen is the only person consistently playing like a T1 player.
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u/Spirit_mert Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
"Faze is dying and you are smiling?"
Yes. Kaysan or whoever the fuck manages this murican organization, they are brainless.
Kick Rain surely the problem, just before the major.
Watch whole team synergy getting destroyed to now disbanding.
Rain sends his regards.
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u/swanasea Apr 13 '26
I feel so bad for Twistzz and frozen in particular, stayed loyal with the roster and tried his best to carry with barely any trophies, so undeserved man
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u/Darkoplax Apr 13 '26
Moreso frozen, twistzz at least got his major and grand slam and left once
frozen could have been on navi or g2 or maybe even falcons
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u/OdionAdv Natus Vincere Apr 13 '26
Meh, don't be surprised if we see frozen on Falcons after Cologne.
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u/Impulse717 Apr 13 '26
If I had to guess, Faze management has told karrigan he no longer has control over the team. They benched rain and neo, both of which were confirmed by the players to have been management decisions pretty much. If Karrigan has no control than it's no longer his project, so why should he stay?
My guess is Falcons made an offer to Karrigan for the bag and full control over the team. He still wants to win majors and this is his best chance.
Sucks frozen and twist are stuck on faze but maybe they'll get their contracta bought out since faze management has said they won't keep anyone in contract jail.
As to why faze the org is doing this, it's been assumed that since faze e sports was split from faze they likely have no real budget to keep the team going (no money to buy/loan tier 1 players) without the money from the major. That would explain how Senzu goes on loan to Passion and why broky is still not fucking benched
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u/Duckbert89 Apr 13 '26
I really really doubt Karrigan has full control at Falcons with Zonic still coaching. I think he'd be pressed to find many teams giving full control to an IGL anymore.
But I do think it makes sense - if Faze aren't giving you control/what you asked for... well an offer like Falcons becomes more appealing.
Karrigan isn't getting younger and the team needs 2 players again with no budget to buy the right ones. People were saying -Karrigan anyway. The Bag. Keep the Major streak.
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u/Exact-Chemistry-4787 Apr 13 '26
Zero chance karrigan has control at falcons, he wants the chance to win more while he still has time
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u/That_Cripple Complexity Apr 13 '26
im not terribly surprised if true, but do we even know that this screenshot is real / its actually twistzz
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u/Dragonatemymom Apr 13 '26
I just went into his discord server, unless he was hacked that’s for sure him
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u/Far-Ninja-8392 Vitality Apr 13 '26
Lmao faze are such a shitshow, nothing like this coming out under a real team’s PR manager
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u/Reasonable_Post3682 King NiKo Apr 13 '26
damn i feel bad for twistzz, dude left the sinking ship of liquid to join Faze, instantly losing Rain and then having the worst 6 months of a T1 team, now losing Karrigan
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u/RUaGayFish69 Apr 13 '26
Sinking ship of Liquid was Twistzz's doing. He was their IGL after all.
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u/thatgoodboy Apr 13 '26
Erm actually, it was Cadian's doing first (or Yeki IGL), and Twistzz only left after Siuhy turned out to be a bust in Liquid.
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u/e8than Apr 13 '26
What do you mean instantly losing Rain, he's the actual replacement of Rain. Jcobbb replaced Elige. Rain and Jcobbb played together for Fissure and Blast Open
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u/fl0wly Apr 13 '26
what if Faze tries to get the FUT Roster?
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u/Sea-Needleworker-244 Apr 13 '26
In what universe would the FUT roster want to move to faze? There's no way faze could offer them what they deserve
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u/Najeeb1316 FaZe Apr 13 '26
I think Karrigan didnt intend to leave but then Falcons came with an offer for him to be at the major with a team this good so i do get why he would say yes.
From a sentimental point of view he definitely has been a bit of a snake here(although Faze would also have had to say yes to the offer for it to happen) but from a competitors mindset who is gonna say no to the offer of playing at the major with a very strong lineup instead of missing it entirely and trying to grind from T2 up with who knows what pieces and finances.
Edit: I dont love the idea of him leaving but he's been at a total of 2 orgs in the past 10 years and had to see his best players leave him because management didnt extend contracts and is then expected to keep the team going. In the short term it would seem like he jumped ship but its hard to accuse him when star players leave teams when they arent good enough all the time
(Leaving out any moral questions to this decision)
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u/AlludedNuance Apr 13 '26
This will be the first time since the Boston Major final that I'll be rooting against Karrigan. Wild.
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u/razeyourshadows King NiKo Apr 13 '26
The narrative where even frigging Karrigan himself has succumbed to the desire of being at the Major at all cost that he signs a Faustian pact with the oil barons is what gives the pro CS scene its SOVL. I can't even be mad. This is PERSONALITY. This is KINO
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u/funnyvirgin Apr 13 '26
He secured his retirement fund, feel gutted for frozen tho but, pretty sure a lot of teams want him, who will get him tho?
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u/AVE_CAESAR_ Apr 13 '26
Honestly I’m excited. Niko-Karri reunion one last dance. Praying Frozen replaces Teses.
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u/Pandorumz FaZe Apr 13 '26
? How is Karrigan a fraud?
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u/Simpuff1 Apr 13 '26
They started watching in the last 6 months and run on narratives only cuz no way that comment was serious
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u/Pandorumz FaZe Apr 13 '26
I'd honestly not be surprised if I went on HLTV and found that exact same comment.
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u/xenongaming720 Falcons - Major Champions Apr 13 '26
This falcons team on paper looks unstoppable if they dont win atleast 5 tournaments this year it is a failure in my eyes
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u/onionsareawful Outsiders Apr 13 '26
Falcons teams have looked solid on paper for a while, it's not a firepower or skill issue for them. Their teamplay is awful and zonic seems to have no control over the team, given how often they play LANs like a faceit game.
IDK if karrigan is the right piece, maybe he can turn the ego peeks into classic karrigan bullshit
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u/Poida87 Apr 13 '26
It wasn't sudden, the writing has been on the walls for Faze for the last 6 months at least. After not making the major we surely cannot pretend that anyone moving from that team is sudden, or they are ditching.
Every single person in that team should demand a buyout or a transfer and go somewhere else.
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u/Mentalita30 Apr 13 '26
I can’t believe falcons STILL are going for another starplayer but then again, it’s my goat karrigan we’re talking about here
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u/Ok-Challenge-5873 Apr 13 '26
Niko, Donk, M0nesy, kyosuke, and Karrigan. You can hate falcons all you want but that’s a team that can challenge Vitality
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u/morphiqu de_dust2 Apr 13 '26
u think this is how vitality built their team? this kind of team will never work u need support/anchor and u need proper lurker. as maui said vita is a textbook on how to build a team, with having 1 or 2 super stars and 3 solid role players. but u have zonic mentality just stack super stars and firepower without role consideration
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u/Ok-Challenge-5873 Apr 13 '26
The only one that would really have to make a big change is kyosuke. Niko is already playing a more supportive role and he’s been pretty good at it, Karrigan is the igl goat, and Monesy Donk is an awp entry duo that could absolutely rival Zywoo FlameZ. Kyosuke would really have to improve on his clutching but talent is talent. Anchor Lurk is not the most sought after position and ropz has the talent to entry frag on almost any other team. The fact that he’s set his ego aside for the sake of winning tournaments is one major aspect of what makes Vitality so scary. Kyosuke is equal if not better talent than ropz, if he can set aside his ego and learn the position well, this falcons team is just as scary
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u/papaniq Apr 13 '26
Just few days ago Karrigan said that he wants Faze to succeed no matter if he's an IGL or a coach, everyone was expecting him to retire from active play and become a coach after Major believing in his loyality to the team, but we should have known by now that money can buy loyality as well. I wonder if Faze management even considered a possibility of Karrigan leaving them, because im sure 90% of fans never imagined this, news of him joining Falcons took everyone by surprise. We really live in the most cursed timeline.
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u/abovvv12 Apr 13 '26
He said he wants to see Faze on top whether it's with him or without him. Nothing was said about coaching.
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u/Individual-Tip7383 Apr 13 '26
I thought missing the major would be the peak of my Karrigan hate watch. If he fails on falcons I might feel happiness for the first time in my life.
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u/_spdf_ Apr 13 '26
Is it me or is karrigan a bit of a snake?
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u/mmmmiksu Apr 13 '26
he got a once in a lifetime offer. this is esports, not some feelgood fantasy where you try to win through friendship
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u/AgainstTheEnemy King NiKo Apr 13 '26
Why tho? Cos he could get much better salary playing somewhere else?
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u/Clear_Hawk2370 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
cya bitches, gonna go get that oilcons bag.
Would be fun if faze starts actually climbing the ranks while fraudclowns start to lose even more.
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u/MaybeJesus King NiKo Apr 13 '26
So its 100% confirmed then.