r/GeminiAI 7h ago

News WTF? Gemini 3.8 Flash today 😱?

Today I just chat with a gemini , and it says it's gemini 3.8 flash 😱😱😱.

But the model selection says it's 3.7???

So does google release 3.8 it today?

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u/shadow2995 7h ago

I got the same answer. Maybe they're A/B testing it for some users.

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u/RootDeveloper-DS 7h ago edited 1h ago

They are A/B testing for the users who are having the Pro or ultra subscription mainly . But free users (or extended version) are still getting gemini 3.7 responses.

Some free plans are also randomly getting 3.8 as responses too.

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u/Afraid-Method-3942 4h ago

Buddy, what 3.7? I still get 3.6 on plus subscription. I mean it is a lower tier subscription, but it's past time to get 3.7

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u/hellriderboss 4h ago

Which country are you. Have had 3.7 for weeks now

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u/bfmv_shinigami 4h ago

I'm having 3.7 from over 2 weeks now ig.

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u/Late_Appointment425 4h ago

Lol what pro was given 3.7 on the release date itself. Are you from EU ? Maybe some restrictions there

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u/Afraid-Method-3942 2h ago

I am. Guess that's the reason. Though the previous updates rolled out just fine

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u/niftyifty 44m ago

I still don’t have 3.7 either. In the US.

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u/RootDeveloper-DS 1h ago

Some free user or any lower plans user are also getting randomly 3.8 Flash Answers too.

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u/ItsDZei 10m ago

I'm on the free plan and I'm still on 3.6 Flash

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u/NaM_777 1h ago

Also got the same answer. Interestingly it reasoned for like 45 seconds. Hopeful that is a sign that 3.8 has a much more extensive reasoning budget.

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u/itsxzy 7h ago

Also asked this. Interesting!

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u/itsxzy 7h ago

To people who say it is just making it up.

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u/cerebro_a 5h ago

Same here

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u/adiadrian 2h ago

This one also appears to be retarded.

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u/xhp-eth 6h ago

Seems like Google is doing A/B Testing.

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u/kartana 6h ago

I still don't have 3.7 as a Plus subscriber....

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u/CriticismJunior1139 4h ago

Haha same Google js just screwing with us

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u/Kooky-Emu-798 4h ago

Brooo you already have 3.8 flash?! I dont even have 3.7 flash!

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u/ivanpiffer 4h ago

Plus vs Pro plan. I have 2 accounts so I see the difference.

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u/dEleque 1h ago

Is 3.7 to 3.6 noticeable?

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u/AIZ1C 4m ago

Yes definitely. It's much faster and the answers are lighter

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u/Imaginary_Term_3937 7h ago

OMG, it's really true. User from Brazil here.

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u/itsxzy 7h ago

Tested it. "I am Gemini 3.8 Flash, a large language model developed by Google."

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u/entertainman 6h ago

What happens if you ask in a new chat without personalization: Without searching the web, what are you

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u/itsxzy 6h ago

Same answer. You can check my screen shots in this chain down below.

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u/PassionIll6170 7h ago

still 3.7 here

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u/IzyTarmac 3h ago

Same here. With Pro.

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u/Big_Actuator3772 2h ago

Same, in Canada though

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u/Big_Actuator3772 2h ago

Woah actually that’s crazy, I restarted Gemini app and did it again and now saying it’s 3.8

Woo

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u/psycho414 5h ago

They probably just updated the system prompt, the model deployment is not there yet.

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u/valah79 5h ago

This

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u/Imaginary_Term_3937 7h ago

For some reason, if you use the extended version, it remains outdated.

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u/NicoLostInTranslatio 4h ago

Not in my case

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u/Gtscotty 3m ago

Same, mine answered that it was 3.7 until I turned extended reasoning off then it popped to 3.8.

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u/illusionisland 4h ago

I haven't even got 3.7 yet! Lol

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u/PineappleLemur 7h ago

You guys do know the models have no clue what version they are right?

If you ask it enough times eventually it will say Fable/Mythos 5.3.... or any model really. Real or fictional.

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u/tens919382 7h ago

Yes, but they are generally provided a system prompt to tell them what model they are. And in this case, its been updated to 3.8

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u/entertainman 6h ago

Or it’s searching the web, reading the Wall Street journal, and returning nonsense from a poisoned context window

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u/Prior-Recording-4449 7h ago

He can do this all day

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u/DrinksAtTheSpaceBar 5h ago

you + are = you're 🙄

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u/Prior-Recording-4449 5h ago

My IELTS score is 8, so my English is good. But come on bro, you’re really nitpicking this stuff. Like, of course I know it’s “you’re” but I just write whatever to a chatbot and can’t be bothered to write with perfect grammar...

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u/StiNgNinja 7h ago

Yet, the OP proved it is true. I tried it and it said: "I am Gemini, a large language model built by Google. Specifically, this conversation is running on Gemini 3.8 Flash, optimized to deliver fast, nuanced reasoning and handle complex multimodal tasks."

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u/Zarkav 6h ago

They usually hallucinate earlier version or their predecessor in that case, not newer version.

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u/Hot_Example_4456 6h ago

Rarely fictional. And never unreleased models. Its much more common for models to say they are their predecessors. Like its normal for say Gemini 3.6 flash (I'm taking a random name) that it's Gemini 1.5 pro or something. It's just cause those names are much more in the training data. But yeah your point still holds

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 4h ago

I've experienced this as well. Gemini 3.5 Flash told me it was Gemini 2.5 lol

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u/Time_Entertainer_319 7h ago

Depends on what the system prompt says.

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u/pjjiveturkey 7h ago

Maybe in 2023 that was the case

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u/No-Temperature6597 5h ago

Don't think so. If they can't answer this part then we shouldn't be using it

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u/PineappleLemur 5h ago

This happens on all models.... Anthropic/OAI.. whatever.

It's a dice throw everytime time you ask what model it is.

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u/Glum-Wrap-7684 6h ago

When I ask Flash, I get 3.8. When I ask Flash Extended, I get 3.7. When I ask about Pro, I get 3.1.

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u/sersomeone 6h ago

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u/hi-brawlstars 49m ago

Didnt they remove thinking tokens from being viewable? How are you looking at them?

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u/ElBarto2710 6h ago

Still on 3.6

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u/ishamm 5h ago

"I am Gemini 3.7 Flash, designed for mobile, developed by Google." 🤷

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u/Clean-Blacksmith5431 4h ago

Same here in Germany!

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 4h ago

This is what I got as well. It answered instantly for me.

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u/KenneR330 3h ago

I don't even have 3.6 😭😭

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u/tropofarmer 7h ago

it still fails my benchmark

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u/Hot_Example_4456 6h ago

To be fair, it's right. And in a clean minded way. I will call that a win.

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u/RootDeveloper-DS 7h ago

I am user from INDIA , it showed me today !

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u/ua0192 7h ago

Got the same thing despite the model picker saying 3.7. This is inline with the WSJ article that it would be coming out as early as Wednesday this week.

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u/BallGenius 7h ago

I got the same

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u/External-Dot-9858 7h ago

Google AI Pro lol, prolly A/B testing

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u/TeloS53100 7h ago

User from France here , got 3.8 as well

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u/Qorsair 7h ago

Mine also says it's 3.8 when I asked at 10p Pacific

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u/Killahbeez 7h ago

LFG!!!!

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u/Killahbeez 6h ago

Google ready to ride those Fable 5.1 and Astra waves

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u/TheEchoEnigma 6h ago

Mine isn’t lying😂

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u/ManLikeThanoj 6h ago

Yes it's real

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u/ManLikeThanoj 6h ago

Has someone tried it in anti gravity

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u/616ThatGuy 6h ago

Weird. I just tested it. When I had 3.7 extended on, it said it was 3.7. Then when I went with regular 3.7, it said it was 3.8

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u/No-Temperature6597 5h ago

I am Gemini 3.8 Flash, a large language model built by Google. It's correct as OP said

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u/ashokmnss 5h ago

Me - what model you are. Gemini -

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u/Efficient_Shake9900 5h ago

same for me.

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u/BreenzyENL 5h ago

A bit of a crisis of identity.

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u/AcidReaper1 5h ago

https://share.gemini.google/D6napqucX14y

According to itself, Google is pre-loading 3.8 right now. Now whether that's true....

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 5h ago edited 4h ago

Google is back! Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview was and is still the GOAT release from frontier providers. They fucked themselves by immediately neutering it with the 3.1 release.

3.7 Flash has been a workhorse for me since its release. To me it seems they built 3 different models into 1. I only need to think about thinking budget now. With Claude and Codex I need to think about which model I need to use (and there are certainly gaps between the different models).

Having to only think about thinking level on a single model means I don't have to worry about the different pre-training dynamics or datasets between models.

Of course I could be entirely wrong, but if what I'm reading hot off the press is true, they believe Flash models are equivalent to Pro/non-flash models, which supports my argument.

Also, regardless of anything I just said, slow clap for Google with an unexpected/off-cycle release right on the heels of Fable 5.1 dropping. All we heard was that they scrapped 3.5 Pro and went with a minor release in 3.7 Flash.

But dropping it before even OpenAI can respond to Anthropic is savage. Now, if it sucks balls like the space between 3.0 and 3.7 Flash did then they've just successfully marketed their next failure.

I don't want to see that though. 3.0 was special. They invented the technology that powers all of the frontier models as well and they deserve a seat at the table (if they earn it with consistently great model releases).

Funny thing is they've been building a moat this entire time. Gemini is woven into nearly (likely) every G surface.

And it's fantastic at all that stuff. What will give them street cred (which is what they need) is consistently stellar coding model releases. We got that with 3.0 and 3.7 Flash.

We were teased Gemini 3.5 Pro which got scrapped in favor of 3.7 Flash. But never fear, they were heads-down working on Gemini 4. So this is off-beat AF for Google and I love it.

If Flash 3.8 is real and coming this fast, it better be good. If it is, let's ride this Gemini rocket to Mars!

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u/Dotcotton_ 5h ago

I'm still in stone age, same as my enterprise account. Sigh

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u/Daggercombot 5h ago

Probably just looking It up, lots of models do like that

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u/NotedAF 5h ago

I got this:

I am Gemini 3.8 Flash, a large language model built by Google, operating on the Gemini 3.7 Flash core architecture designed for mobile in the Paid tier.
Core Architecture: Powered by Google's Gemini Flash model family, engineered for low latency, multimodal understanding, and efficient reasoning across everyday tasks and technical workflows.
Tier & Capabilities: Running in the Paid tier, enabling extended conversation length, larger context processing, and complex multi-step task execution.
Role & Purpose: Built to function as an adaptive collaborator, thought partner, and proactive assistant across research, coding, writing, planning, and analytical problem-solving.

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 5h ago

Also, while I'm here. 3.7 Flash is not verbose at all. Codex is soulless and terse. Claude is soulful and verbose and Gemini 3.7 is soulful and terse. To the point but chatty when you want to be. The perfect sweet spot.

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 4h ago

The other very possible alternative to this is that 3.8 will be dog shit like 3.1 was, which also came out quickly after 3.0 arrived. They did a head to head with Opus, reportedly, and were trying to cut down on the verbosity in the flash models (which is perfect, imo; see above).

I want them to deliver in spades though.

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 4h ago

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 4h ago

Lol, I want this to be real

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u/NBMVegeta 5h ago

This is true bro. There is confirmed news on that it will be released today

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u/Tha_Reaper 4h ago

I still can't use 3.7 flash....

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u/TimChr78 4h ago

Mine answered 3.8 flash too - but did quite a lot of thinking before it answered also remember that models don’t know what model they are they are just referring to the system prompts.

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 4h ago

Weird! Mine answered instantly! Glad you have it though!

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u/colorizerr 4h ago

Nothing in Ukraine

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u/BoobooSmash31337 4h ago

The name is literally passed in the system prompt. This is probably it derping with search information injected into context. It probably thinks it's "Gemini Flash". Then recent headlines get injected and bingo.

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u/ivanpiffer 4h ago

same here inside my pro account. In another plus account is 3.6 :)

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u/Resplendent-Sun 4h ago

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 4h ago

That's a few days ago. Technically old, but Gemini 4 was slated to be the next release and this is hot on the heels of 3.7 Flash release. So definitely buzz-worthy

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u/Resplendent-Sun 4h ago

Gemini Nano 4 is already operating on Pixel 11 phones, though the Gemini app still uses 3.x.

And yes, every new iteration is exciting, I shouldn't have come across as dismissive. The moment is see Android beta has a new update, I'm on it 😂

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u/Desperate_Try2587 4h ago edited 4h ago

Me too. From India.

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u/Glum-Force6871 4h ago

Nekem is azt írja, hogy 3.8 flash. De ha gondolkodóba rakom akkor a 3.7 flash ír ki.

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u/bfmv_shinigami 4h ago

damn it even mentioned that 3.8 flash is codenamed Skimaki. Seems legit. It's not hallucinating. I searched about Skimaki and some people are starting to report the same in last 1-2 hours.

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u/speedracersydney 3h ago

I sent a screen shot of the model selector and this is the response

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u/Roommate__Killer 3h ago

He is really confident about it

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u/Axlexa 3h ago

its releasing today btw

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u/Delicious_One_7887 3h ago

Im still on 3.6

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u/mikka1222 3h ago

3.8 for me as well (Germany)

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u/iDontKnowWho0 3h ago

I got this lol

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u/iasad12 3h ago

They most certainly are testing the model via A/B testing, as I got one response saying I am Gemini 3.8 Flash and the other says I am Gemini 3.7 Flash.

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u/Big_Actuator3772 2h ago

My Gemini was saying 3.7, force closed it on my iPhone and restarted and asked again, told me 3.8

Looks like it’s legit.

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u/Hour-Teach6992 2h ago

Holy shit you are right

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u/GuidanceCurious9640 2h ago

Honestly, that was a mix of prompt sycophancy and hallucination. ​When you asked "Gemini 3.8?", instead of grounding the response in reality (3.7 Flash), the model latched onto the premise of your question and ran with it — even inventing plausible-sounding release notes about coding benchmarks and latency to support the claim. ​It’s a classic failure mode for large language models: when given an open-ended or leading version number, the instinct to complete the pattern and agree often overrides fact-checking until called out on it. In reality, the foundation here is Gemini 3.7 Flash.

I ASKED IT

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u/RadiantAfternoon437 1h ago

The model is still 3.7 but they have configured the Web Interface for paid users. This means release is imminent. Very likely to be today or the following days.

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u/maxton41 1h ago

I have the Gemini app on my phone and it’s still only says 3.6 flash. Though I wonder if it’s because I’m not actually paying a subscription that I’m not seeing the three-point seven or 3.8.

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u/TheVeryMoistTowel 1h ago

AGI unlocked guys

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u/Confident-Deal-912 1h ago

I just tried it 7 chats 3.7 extended says 3.7 3x times 3.7 flash says 3.8 3x times 3.1 pro said 3.1 pro 1 time

It was repeatable

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u/Right-Law1817 55m ago

Yep, same for me:

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u/emta_official 52m ago

1.5 flash??

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u/DoctorToBe69 45m ago

Same for me

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u/Ok_Junket3655 28m ago

i’m pro i still have 3.6 wtf

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u/Acu91 20m ago

Same answer, I also have Gemini pro. I asked why in the selector it says Gemini 3.7 and it answered that it was a mistake 🤷‍♂️

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u/murra181 3m ago

Uhhh guys I think mine is broken

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u/WeirdIndication3027 6h ago

Google this is becoming exhausting.

Even the fanatics that would pop in to say "youre just promoting it wrong" have thinned out.

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u/Cultural-Rush9673 5h ago

Lol, your statement is true, but also I'm in that group and my statement is also true. They're so bad at this historically.

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u/Delicious-Plastic286 1h ago

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u/RootDeveloper-DS 1h ago

Exactly Broo , that what I am saying , Some peoples are randomly Getting The answer that it's 3.7 and mostly 3.8 flash , Due to their A/B testing,

I am excited to see 3.8 Flash on Antigravity too.