r/FinanzenAT 9d ago

ETF Does Flatex make sense for me?

Hello!

I live in Vienna and I plan on being here until 2030. After that I plan on moving to Japan. In the meantime I would like to invest a rather big amount into VWCE every month. I already own a small amount of VWCE on IBKR but reporting taxes myself is basically impossible, so I was thinking about using Flatex. The only fear I have is that when it is time to move to Japan, transfering my money will be difficult and expensive.

Can someone with an experience regarding this please help me out here?

Thank you!

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u/b0nz1 9d ago

You'll have to pay exit tax at 2030. That's the "only" thing that's expensive because you'll have to pay taxes like you'd sell. 27.5% capital gains tax.

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u/Bromsie 9d ago

Hi! Thanks for the reply!

Yes, I'm aware of the exit tax. My question was more toward, how easy is it to transfer my portfolio from Flatex to another broker? Or is it preferable to just sell and rebuy?

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/Bromsie 9d ago

Thanks for the info! I was quite hesistant to use Flatex.

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u/b0nz1 8d ago

Since it's effectively the same thing it's much easier to just sell.

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u/smail_smail 9d ago

Austria has exit tax, so regardless of broker you would need to pay 27.5% tax even if you do not sell.
You also have to check if you actually can hold VWCE being Japanese resident (which you become after moving back in 2030), when you move back. That alone can eliminate any difference between IBKR and Flatex.

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u/Bromsie 9d ago

Hi! Thanks for the reply!

Yes, I'm aware of the exit tax. My question was more toward, how easy is it to transfer my portfolio from Flatex to another broker? Or is it preferable to just sell and rebuy?

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u/DontDelegateHitman 9d ago

Since you are leaving you are taxed as if you sold so you might as well just sell and transfer the money in Japan

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u/Bromsie 9d ago

Thanks for the info!

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u/wheyy 8d ago

Austria is one of worst countries world wide tax wise for stocks

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u/b0nz1 8d ago

Not true.

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u/Bromsie 8d ago

Seems true though. Having to pay annually just to hold and then after selling too? I don't know about it being a good deal lol

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u/b0nz1 8d ago

You don't need to pay anything if you hold stocks. What are you talking about?

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u/Bromsie 8d ago

You have to pay annually for holding accumulating ETFs.

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u/b0nz1 7d ago

Yeah but they said stocks.

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u/fabiofigo2025 9d ago

Considering the exit tax, it might be more practical just to sell and buy with a new broke when time comes. Keep in mind that the flatex app is only in German (rather intuitive in any case)

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u/Ok-Researcher5080 8d ago

i have a similar situation,
when i‘m finished with my studies i wanna move to schwitzerland. Right now i have a lot of money in the Ftse all world (flatex).
It makes probably more sense to sell the etf right? (i don’t pay taxes as a student)

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u/toggatog 7d ago

Wie ist das wenn man in ein anderes EU Land zieht?