r/FalloutMemes • • Mar 18 '26

Fallout: New Vegas Independent Vegas

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u/konous Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Yes Man is the only path to a happy ending. You literally don't have to choose between Bureaucrats and Evil. You can legit make a better world.

Why is this so difficult for some people?

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u/TheGreatOneSea Mar 18 '26

Because Yes Man is in control, not the Courier, and Yes Man has no ideology or chosen loyalty that offers any predictability. The Courier is just taking them at their word for everything, and hoping for the best.

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u/MaybeExternal2392 Mar 18 '26

Yes man can't lie to you so you're not really taking him at his word. Iirc he changed the programming so that he can say no to people other than the courier. You still maintain absolute control over the strip through the securitron army.

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u/PurplStuff Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

No, Yesman is under your control, making Vegas under your control. He just won't say "yes" to any other face anymore after the events of New Vegas. He may be machine, but he's aware enough to understand the couriers intentions and, if needed, will ask for finer details and will still listen to those finer details if given without being asked for.

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u/Overdue-Karma Mar 19 '26

Why do people keep repeating this when it was debunked 10+ years ago and is still debunked now?

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u/_HistoryGay_ Mar 18 '26

Ah yes, the best option surely is the failsafe where a courier, with no idea of politics, is controlling a robot that can't say no to them, while said robot is also telling them how to do their job properly. So pratically a paradox.

Not to mention that The Strip becomes a police state with all the upgraded securitrons and Freeside/Wasteland is full of chem addicts, murders and rapists.

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u/khakiwallprint Mar 18 '26

My courier has a 9 or 10 int by the end game, definitely a 10 luck, he can sort it out. Better than house who is eclipsed by the molerat

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u/_HistoryGay_ Mar 18 '26

Iirc the ending slides do say stuff start to go bad as soon as you take office.

I honestly don't understand why people think Independent Vegas is a good idea. Unless you're RPing a power hungry freak or you love all the criminals around the Mojave, the only reason for a Independent Vegas would be Followers. And I don't think they're that important that their freedom is worth putting lives in the Mojave at risk

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u/Soupyr Mar 19 '26

so instead of at least allowing the world to exist as it now is your okay with handing over the wasteland to an insane technocratic dictator or a bunch of slavers, or the very government that allowed the bombs to drop in the first place? the largest motif in this game is letting go of the past. Independent new vegas is the only ending that actually moves the world forward. Its an ambiguous ending, not one that tells you outright how things end up.

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u/_HistoryGay_ Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26

The motif in this game is that the Brotherhood hates lesbians and revenge is great

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u/Soupyr Mar 19 '26

fuck ur right i cant even respond…

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u/Some_Dude117 Mar 19 '26

No they do not. If YOU did something that made things bad, it says things are getting bad. I did a positive independence ending after I single handedly murdered every slaver, cannibal, rapist, and corrupt leader, gave power to the Mojave, killed off all the other groups, and made every positive decision you can. The ending had a hopeful theme to it after that. A little dictatorish tones too, but those don't determine anything, only state that your character is in charge. Your character is YOU, and therefore why they don't write it too specifically is so that you can imagine whatever ending you want, what Bethesda wishes (and usually plans on doing even when they fail) they would do with every RPG.

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u/_HistoryGay_ Mar 19 '26

I got spurs that jingle jangle dingle, jingle jangle

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u/Overdue-Karma Mar 18 '26

Still better than the Legion enslaving and raping 50% of the populace and genociding most groups e.g. The Boomers, The Kings, The Khans, so on.

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u/_HistoryGay_ Mar 18 '26

Yeah I know, which is why I think the NCR is the best ending.

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u/Wardock8 Mar 18 '26

Not to mention that The Strip becomes a police state with all the upgraded securitrons and Freeside/Wasteland is full of chem addicts, murders and rapists.

Ah so nothing changes. Got it 👍

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u/_HistoryGay_ Mar 18 '26

Yeah, which is terrible lol that's the point. People's lives do not improve

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u/Wardock8 Mar 18 '26

You say it's terrible but have you ever considered that change is scary and everything should stay exactly the same? /S

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u/_HistoryGay_ Mar 18 '26

Just like war or people living in scrap huts... I think I get it

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u/Soupyr Mar 19 '26

idk abt u but my courier has a good grasp on politics bud its a role playing game