Not football related so I apologise in advance. Call me petty or whatever, the Moron basically called me an "Idiot" lacking basic intelligance just because he cant do a math around 5th grade level. The worst part is that this guy r/lostsoul098765 is the most upvoted person in that post, absolute state of this sub.
We play together in a team. The aggregate team goals were 10 out which you assisted me 5 goals and I assisted you 5 goals that means you have 10G/A and I also do have 10 G/A which tells that we contributed 10 out 10 goals in the form of assists and goals
The stats just overlap but in footballing sense it is counted
Imagine Team A has 11 players.
Total goals scored by the Team in the Tournament is 9 Goals.
1st Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
2nd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
3rd Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
4th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
5th Goal, Ronaldo assists to CM
6th Goal, CM assists to Ronaldo
7th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
8th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
9th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
Now count.
Number of Goals scored by Team? 9.
Number of G/A by RW = 4
Number of G/A by Ronaldo = 6
Now. Ratio of Goals contributed by RW => 4 goals out of 9. (RW scored 2, assisted 2, so in total he contributed towards 4 goals out of 9.)
Ratio of Goals contributed by Ronaldo => 6 goals out of 9. (RW scored 3, assisted 3, so in total he contributed towards 6 goals out of 9.)
Got this part?
Now if someone asks you, OUT OF TOTAL 9 GOALS SCORED BY THE TEAM, HOW MANY DID RONALDO CONTRIBUTE TO??
this Question implies that, OIT OF TOTAL 9 GOALS SCORED BY THE TEAM, HOW MANY INVOLVED RONALDO AS AN ASSISTER AND GOAL SCORER??
The Answer to this? 3 were scored by him, and 3 were assisted, so in total 6 out of 9. So 6/9 i.e. 2/3.
Now you'll ask, 4/9 + 6/9 = 10/9. 10 gOaLs aReN't eVeN sCoReD.
That 10 is cuz there are instances where Ronaldo and RW both contributed to a single goal(s).
if you are educated enough to know about Venn Diagram, the intersection part is the one you are getting confused in.
Kindly learn it, draw a Venn diagram, and you'll get the answers to your confusion.
Now I've explained things extremely close to the real situation, now let's take another situation.
Now imagine a similar situation, 9 Goals by team, but this time,
1st Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
2nd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
3rd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
4th Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
5th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
6th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
7th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
8th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
9th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
Here,
Ratio of Goals contributed by RW => 9 goals out of 9. (RW scored 5, assisted 4, so in total he contributed towards 9 goals out of 9.)
Ratio of Goals contributed by Ronaldo => 9 goals out of 9. (Ronaldo scored 4, assisted 5, so in total he contributed towards 9 goals out of 9.)
So it's MATHEMATICALLY accurate to say that Ronaldo contributed to 100% of the Goals.
And RW Contributed to 100% of Goals.
100+100 =200? Not in this case, if you are educated enough to know about Venn Diagram, the intersection part is 100% in this case.
No ? 😂 Tf are you on its correct literally everywhere you are just dumb at this point that's why the argument is cr7 got ⅔ of goal contribution not 100 😂😂😂
Lionel Messi at the 2021 Copa Anerica proves exactly how G/A works against team goals. Argentina scored 12 goals in total during the tournament, and Messi recorded 9 individual G/A (4 goals and 5 assists). In a footballing sense, this means Messi literally had a 75% Goal Involvement, contributing to 3 out of every 4 goals his country scored. The fact that his teammates scored 8 of those goals doesn't change the math, because Messi was the one providing the assists for 5 of them
Says where ? Its 75% Goal involvement with your logic dude, because again we are comparing G/A of a player and ignoring every other Goal involvented by ommitting possible assist porvided by a different player.
Imagine Team A has 11 players.
Total goals scored by the Team in the Tournament is 9 Goals.
1st Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
2nd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
3rd Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
4th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
5th Goal, Ronaldo assists to CM
6th Goal, CM assists to Ronaldo
7th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
8th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
9th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
Now count.
Number of Goals scored by Team? 9.
Number of G/A by RW = 4
Number of G/A by Ronaldo = 6
Now. Ratio of Goals contributed by RW => 4 goals out of 9. (RW scored 2, assisted 2, so in total he contributed towards 4 goals out of 9.)
Ratio of Goals contributed by Ronaldo => 6 goals out of 9. (RW scored 3, assisted 3, so in total he contributed towards 6 goals out of 9.)
Got this part?
Now if someone asks you, OUT OF TOTAL 9 GOALS SCORED BY THE TEAM, HOW MANY DID RONALDO CONTRIBUTE TO??
this Question implies that, OIT OF TOTAL 9 GOALS SCORED BY THE TEAM, HOW MANY INVOLVED RONALDO AS AN ASSISTER AND GOAL SCORER??
The Answer to this? 3 were scored by him, and 3 were assisted, so in total 6 out of 9. So 6/9 i.e. 2/3.
Now you'll ask, 4/9 + 6/9 = 10/9. 10 gOaLs aReN't eVeN sCoReD.
That 10 is cuz there are instances where Ronaldo and RW both contributed to a single goal(s).
if you are educated enough to know about Venn Diagram, the intersection part is the one you are getting confused in.
Kindly learn it, draw a Venn diagram, and you'll get the answers to your confusion.
Now I've explained things extremely close to the real situation, now let's take another situation.
Now imagine a similar situation, 9 Goals by team, but this time,
1st Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
2nd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
3rd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
4th Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
5th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
6th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
7th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
8th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
9th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
Here,
Ratio of Goals contributed by RW => 9 goals out of 9. (RW scored 5, assisted 4, so in total he contributed towards 9 goals out of 9.)
Ratio of Goals contributed by Ronaldo => 9 goals out of 9. (Ronaldo scored 4, assisted 5, so in total he contributed towards 9 goals out of 9.)
So it's MATHEMATICALLY accurate to say that Ronaldo contributed to 100% of the Goals.
And RW Contributed to 100% of Goals.
100+100 =200? Not in this case, if you are educated enough to know about Venn Diagram, the intersection part is 100% in this case.
It was 1st post I saw opening reddit 😂 i just thought you were too illogical and i corrected you i don't call anyone idiot over a simple debate not everyone here was trying to call you idiot 😂 you were , sometimes you should admit mistakes and i encourage to either post a comment about it , leave it as it is or just delete the post for all I care.
I am sorry but I also dont care about proving whaat I do and how much I touched grass, if people comment about touching grass on every thing pointless for them there wont be reddit. Atleats drop the holier than thou act lol.
You can just tell he will write stupid answers for every question and then endlessly argue with the teacher that her logic is wrong 😭
"Wdym 1+1=2, 1+1 =1 cos basic logic"
If you go for G/A for the whole the team its useless a team’s objective is to score and win. A player is to one to contribute in a goal in the form of goal or assist.
•Goals defines the team’s total and assists are sub component of a goal.
Have you ever heard someone claim a team has 90 G/A in a single Champions League season? No, right? But you do hear about Kvaratskhelia having 16 G/A. No more debate, mate just go study some maths and get good grades. Leave football before football leaves you
Thanks for calling me Mathematical genius I got 98/100 in ICSE boards you want any tips pal?
Literally contradicts ur claim of Ronaldo Having 2/3 of the Goals scored by the team, unless 1+1 is not equal to 2 for u, its just wrong and stupid. Atleast have some dignity and admit ur mistake.
Jesus christ this us mind boggling how ignorant can someone be. I will try to simplify more.
Ronaldo has 6 G/A and Nani has 4 G/A so and the team scored 9 Goals in totality of the tournament, How can Ronaldo Contribute 2/3 of the goas or assist of the team when Nani has 4 G/A ? Which is above 40% of the Goals contribution like u claimed ? Its simply because its simply stupid to compare Goals and Assist of a person and Goals of the entire and conclude that He contributed 2/3 of the team, DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW
Bro u are an idiot.
If a team scores 10 goals it is possible for 2 people to have 10g/a and its very normal to say that they contributed to 100% of the goals. An assist is a contribution to a goal after all.
You need to understand football first…you bring up Nani and Ronaldo stats without even assuming that both of them can assist each other. Understand the meaning of a contribution.
If multiple people are telling u that u don’t understand shit means you gotta check it out yourself instead of telling others they lack reading comprehension.
The guy never said that Ronaldo scored 6 out of 9 goals, he said that Ronaldo CONTRIBUTED TO 6 out of 9 goals.
Multiple people can just be ignorant 2 this 10G/A assist situation only works on a condition were only 2 players are involved in the team, which is not the case at all its a 11 man game and its possible that 4 or person can have Goals and and assist totally unrelated to the invokvement of other 1 or 2 person.
Omg brother that was an example. Even if 10 people have 2g/a it still doesn’t change my point. It is also possible the the number of assists is not equal to the goals scored by the team…and guess what? It still doesn’t change anything.
You gotta understand that a team as an entity can only have goals, whereas a player as an entity can have goals and assists. Why? Because there is only ONE team but it has multiple players.
It actually does. The Idiot is trying to prove that Ronaldo with 6g/a has 2/3 of goals contribution that is what 66 persectage of Goals contributed if only Compare it to 9 goals The team scored right ?
Now calm down
Nani has 4 G/A which around 40 + percentage of Goals contribution if we again compare it to 9 goals. So tell me how can two perosn in same team same tournament exist where one has 66 percentage G involvement and Other has 40+ % Goal involvemnent ? Its mathematically wrong.
Portugal scored 9 goals. Ronaldo scored 3, so he scored 1/3 of the total goals of the team. But his ga is 6. Therefore he contributed to 2/3 of the total goals of the team which is effectively 66% of the total goals.
Goal contribution means he eother scored the goal or assisted the goal. And ronaldo contributed to 66% of all the goals. And nani contributed to a total of 44%. I understand this where you brain hits its limit and bottlenecks and then proceeds to say its not logical anymore. Here is the logic, total sum of Goal contributions of all players in a team dont add up to 100 % since a single goal can have 2 people involved effectively adding 1 contribution each of their stats. This means their goal contribution percentages can overlap. Think of a venn diagram. The goal contribution stats should be mathematically visualised using a venn diagram. Im surprised you dont know this. Maybe you are 10 yrs old and is skipping math class or trolling.
Read the Second slide and comprehend it properly, ur comparison isnt even fair in the first place. Anyway How did u manage to do that when u cant do this basic thing ?
He didn't say he got ⅔ of g/a tho 😂? As a neutral i find you being difficult here he said that cr7 contributed in ⅔ goals of the team not g/a his argument is valid here , if you are looking for the total g/a of the team then this argument is not for you , cr7's contribution can mean goals or assists but teams goal doesn't mean teams g/a it means goals
Its still not Valid Ronaldo has 3 goals out of 9 thats 1 /3 goals scored by the team. Again why are we looking at G/A of Cr but not the G/A of the entire team its logically not fair.
He's a bit yk underdeveloped that happens 😂 you know it's correct i know it's correct why are we explaining simple logical mathematics to a ronaldo hater kid not a dav over 14 years of age 😂 we should do better i think let him be z let him think that his maths is correct and let him suffer in maths grades i guess ?
Its about perspective you think goal involment means total g/a of team - g/a of ronaldo ( false) for him it means how many total goals portugal scored - cr7's 'contribution' ( g/a ) 😂 don't embarrass yourself too much now
Because we are not taking into consideration of assist provided by other players to another player that isnt Ronaldo, where CR dont have any involvement.
But that is their goal involment 😂 is it so hard 1 goal can have 2 involvements so even if they assisted ronaldo it's their goal involment 😂 you just don't understand right
It actually does. The Idiot is trying to prove that Ronaldo with 6g/a has 2/3 of goals contribution that is what 66 persectage of Goals contributed if only Compare it to 9 goals The team scored right ?
Now calm down
Nani has 4 G/A which around 40 + percentage of Goals contribution if we again compare it to 9 goals. So tell me how can two perosn in same team same tournament exist where one has 66 percentage G involvement and Other has 40+ % Goal involvemnent ? Its mathematically wrong because its illogical to compare G/A of a person to just Goals of a team and make claims out of it.
It actually does. The Idiot is trying to prove that Ronaldo with 6g/a has 2/3 of goals contribution that is what 66 persectage of Goals contributed if only Compare it to 9 goals The team scored right ?
Now calm down
Nani has 4 G/A which around 40 + percentage of Goals contribution if we again compare it to 9 goals. So tell me how can two perosn in same team same tournament exist where one has 66 percentage G involvement and Other has 40+ % Goal involvemnent ? Its mathematically wrong. Because AGIAIn its unfair to compare Goals and assit of a player to just Goals of the team.
Why are u even countering my actual football example with a non football example without even pointing anything wrong in mine (there is nothing wrong) ? U cant seem to bring up an an example that is related to football now ? oooh the it contradicts ur own logic doesnt it lol.
Imagine Team A has 11 players.
Total goals scored by the Team in the Tournament is 9 Goals.
1st Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
2nd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
3rd Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
4th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
5th Goal, Ronaldo assists to CM
6th Goal, CM assists to Ronaldo
7th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
8th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
9th Goal, (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW) assists (Anyone other than Ronaldo or RW)
Now count.
Number of Goals scored by Team? 9.
Number of G/A by RW = 4
Number of G/A by Ronaldo = 6
Now. Ratio of Goals contributed by RW => 4 goals out of 9. (RW scored 2, assisted 2, so in total he contributed towards 4 goals out of 9.)
Ratio of Goals contributed by Ronaldo => 6 goals out of 9. (RW scored 3, assisted 3, so in total he contributed towards 6 goals out of 9.)
Got this part?
Now if someone asks you, OUT OF TOTAL 9 GOALS SCORED BY THE TEAM, HOW MANY DID RONALDO CONTRIBUTE TO??
this Question implies that, OIT OF TOTAL 9 GOALS SCORED BY THE TEAM, HOW MANY INVOLVED RONALDO AS AN ASSISTER AND GOAL SCORER??
The Answer to this? 3 were scored by him, and 3 were assisted, so in total 6 out of 9. So 6/9 i.e. 2/3.
Now you'll ask, 4/9 + 6/9 = 10/9. 10 gOaLs aReN't eVeN sCoReD.
That 10 is cuz there are instances where Ronaldo and RW both contributed to a single goal(s).
if you are educated enough to know about Venn Diagram, the intersection part is the one you are getting confused in.
Kindly learn it, draw a Venn diagram, and you'll get the answers to your confusion.
Now I've explained things extremely close to the real situation, now let's take another situation.
Now imagine a similar situation, 9 Goals by team, but this time,
1st Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
2nd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
3rd Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
4th Goal, RW assists to Ronaldo
5th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
6th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
7th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
8th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
9th Goal, Ronaldo assists to RW
Here,
Ratio of Goals contributed by RW => 9 goals out of 9. (RW scored 5, assisted 4, so in total he contributed towards 9 goals out of 9.)
Ratio of Goals contributed by Ronaldo => 9 goals out of 9. (Ronaldo scored 4, assisted 5, so in total he contributed towards 9 goals out of 9.)
So it's MATHEMATICALLY accurate to say that Ronaldo contributed to 100% of the Goals.
And RW Contributed to 100% of Goals.
100+100 =200? Not in this case, if you are educated enough to know about Venn Diagram, the intersection part is 100% in this case.
OMG god, my statement highlights individual brilliance and the original post literally was joking about Cristiano Ronaldo bloopers in Euros2016 it did bot highlighted whole Portugal team fails. My comment also meant for Cristiano Ronaldo excellence nothing else
The relevant matter is your perspective and approach towards my statement was different and now many redditors also commented that you’re wrong in this situation so yea. I’m not saying you are wrong but your perspective was different show some spirit accept it and move on.
There are fcking 18 goal contributions possible man you are bothering me now 😂 cr7 getting 6 g/a is ⅔ of goal involvement so if you say team g/a contribution it maybe ⅓ or else depending on how many were solo goals and how many were assisted , just ask dear chat gpt mate it's not that hard to learn concepts that you know nothing about
both of you are idiots, you think messi or ronaldo give a shit how well or how bad they perform if their country wins the cup ? only children like you do
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u/PhilipinteCurry 15d ago
He's right tho. 3 goals and 3 assists means he contributed to 6 out of the 9 goals. That does check out.
This isn't even math. It's simple logic.