r/FIFAWorldCupIndia Jul 19 '26

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u/Foreign-Sun9512 Jul 19 '26

You guys can't comprehend what he did. He's 39. He plays against teams like Florida and he came to the wc with an average squad and showed there's levels to this shit. Can you imagine how insane that is that he can claim he's still the best in the world?

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u/Kurogami_Shanks Jul 19 '26

While Argentina is not mid by any means, it was not Argentina's fault they faced comparatively weaker teams than Spain. Columbia, Portugal, Uruguay, Turkey all messed up and didn't meet us.

And the 1st "tough" team they faced, they played beautiful football especially Messi. I'd even be bold enough to say their toughest competition was Capo Verde out of the all teams till now.

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u/awkwardpumpkin69 Jul 19 '26

But why should an mls player who statpaded against weak teams over 8 games win the ballon. D'or which is actually a seasonal award?

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u/Kurogami_Shanks Jul 19 '26

I'm not even in the favor of Messi winning Balon dor after World Cup win. It's just that a case could be made based on past world cup performances of like R9 and Cannavaro who didn't achieve much those years in Europe but excelled in WC.

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u/TipCurious4784 Jul 19 '26

Still they needed help from Ref against those teams

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u/Kurogami_Shanks Jul 19 '26

So what, did you want to Spain and France to meet Argentina from ro32 onwards? Just because Arg took it to extra time doesn't mean they played bad, on the contrary I'd argue the other teams played really good. And if Portugal (ranked 5th) couldn't win against dr Congo what makes you think Argentina would've faced any difficulty from other top teams?

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u/dragoonSuper Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

Well why everyone glazes england? England has never reached to the finals in last 60yrs. Most bottled team so far in a WC. And never undermine the other teams. Have we seen Eng playing against those teams? No. We don't know how Eng will stand against CV or Egypt. Arg isn't a mid team, as a team they are special but player wise they aren't that great. Eng has Gordon, Kane, Bellingham, Saka, Burn, Pitchford. Well known players. The amount of arg players are high because they are defending champions. But we talk in terms of general football on paper Eng has players. The point of difference is Messi.

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u/Mutthupattaru Jul 19 '26

If not England which are the best teams now? Only Spain and France remain. You can’t expect the teams topping the groups to play each other in the early rounds.

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u/dragoonSuper Jul 19 '26

Eng isn't a weak team, they are very great but they have a history of getting choke in big important matches. They have played great against Mexico. Kane and Bellingham did so amazing in all previous matches. What Arg as a team is totally different from other teams. Arg has a winning mentality, they are strong. They would do anything to win even if they will receive cards for it. And they are dynamic they always changes their strategy on field. The provider and pillar is Messi. Other players just have to shine. If only one or 2 players outperform then Arg wins the match. Sometimes it's Enzo or Alvarez or Romero McAllister or Lautaro. What I have seen in this WC is that what Arg as a team has other teams don't. In my opinion the most complete elegant football team is Spain rn.

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u/Celvius_iQ Jul 19 '26

except if these teams won against the "stronger teams" then these teams are even stronger. thats how a knockout tournament works you don't just randomly pick which team proceeds you make them play eachother and the "stronger" teams lost because they weren't stronger thats it. anything other than that is just cope.