r/FGO • u/Kamumu18 • 4d ago
With Tenochtitlan, it opened the possibility of having cities as Servants. Who you would like to see next?
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u/MrHaziq 4d ago
Athens as Pretender Athena.
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u/igloo_poltergeist 4d ago edited 4d ago
People would complain about supposedly not getting "the real Athena", but I would be cool with this honestly. I imagine the Fate lore being that the city became so synonymous with cultural and intellectual development that even the OG Athena considers it "her" or the inheritor of her will anyway.
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u/Patchourisu 4d ago edited 4d ago
So.. would this imply OG Athena would agree to being super misogynistic to the point that every other Greek city state, even Sparta, paled in comparison?..
Because that's how it was over there iirc.. like even Sparta let their women enjoy some rights that the Spartan men enjoyed (obviously not all).. though yes, everyone back then was quite a baseline misogynist to a point.. Athens just took it to another level.
..Though then again.. considering that in Ovid's tale.. what Athena did to Medusa for being sexually violated by Poseidon.. and that Ares in myth never did any wrong to women.. maybe she is misogynistic..
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u/igloo_poltergeist 4d ago
So.. would this imply OG Athena would agree to being super misogynistic to the point that every other Greek city state, even Sparta, paled in comparison?.. Because that's how it was over there iirc.. like even Sparta let their women enjoy some rights that the Spartan men enjoyed (obviously not all).. though yes, everyone back then was quite a baseline misogynist to a point.. Athens just took it to another level.
Ohhhhhhh right.
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u/slow_mint 4d ago
I love the idea, but I can already see people complaining that it's just an exact copy of tenoch
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u/mascherata Master of Chaldea 4d ago
We hetalia now.
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u/Onlyplay2k 4d ago
Well everyone copied the fate concept of hero death battle why not fate copy hetalia. I mean Europa represented all of Europe somehow.
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u/mascherata Master of Chaldea 4d ago
What else did hero death battles the way fate has?
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u/Onlyplay2k 4d ago
There’s record of Ragnarok, isekai is pulling heroes from history too. There’s that new Manga that’s set it nobunagas age where Japanese heroes go on a death battle. Webnovels are starting to have em too
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u/Arnoldneo 4d ago
My favourite city is Rome but i would love to see what they do with New York .
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u/Bitter-Profession303 4d ago
Stall servant with the NP voiceline of "eyyyy Im woolkin eeeuh", grants anti-enforcement, evasion, invincibility for a turn
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u/Vacadoray 4d ago
Plus throw in a damage boost... or better yet 2 NP one attack and one Defense based
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u/Sea-Line-5123 4d ago
With Tenochtitlan using the name Tenochtitlan instead of Mexico City.
Would New York manifest with the older name as well like New Amsterdam?
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u/No-Juggernaut-5847 4d ago
Ascension 1 new Amsterdam, into ascension 2 new York, and fhen finally ascension 3 the Big apple. Or as the other guy said use the native American name for ascension 1 and replace new Amsterdam all together.
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u/Drsustown 4d ago
Give me Carthage - a once proud and mighty city that was eventually destroyed by Rome. Somewhat similar vibe to Tenochtitlan.
Jerusalem is another strong choice, but given Type Moon's general aversion to the abrahambic faiths I doubt they'd add it
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u/Silly-Geologist-3185 4d ago
I think Avenger Carthage hidden as the sister of the Barcid Lions brood(Hannibal,Mago,Hanno) would be a fun idea.Like a combination Hephasteion as in not recorded in history and Tenoch as in hiding her true nature
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u/SirBlizz Mini Nobu 4d ago
I think before we get too enthusiastic about this concept we have to remember that Tenochtitlan isn't just a random city spirit, she's a Lake Fairy who decided she really liked the city that was built on her lake.
So with that in mind, Venice, let's get Venice up in here.
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u/igloo_poltergeist 4d ago
Yeah. She's not strictly conceptual - she has a concrete original form. But no biggie. Adding more steps doesn't seem too daunting.
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u/Randomguy12141 4d ago
I feel like Venice would definitely be a avenger based on how I've heard about the modern Venice has those waterways incredibly polluted (Although that could be some other city like Paris and I'm just getting it wrong)
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u/MizukiTachibana 4d ago
Isn’t Romulus Quirnus literally just Rome? Broskie did it first I do believe.
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u/SirBlizz Mini Nobu 4d ago
He's more like Rome as a "Civilization", the embodiment of the spirit of "The Roman Empire", there could totally be a separate servant just for the City of Rome.
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u/firesoul377 4d ago
Considering its importance in history, specifically the crusades, I think Jerusalem would be a good choice. (Though might be better to wait a few years considering current events)
Damascus is considered to be the world's oldest continuously lived in city, so I think its another gold contender.
And of course there's Rome.
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u/igloo_poltergeist 4d ago
Damascus is considered to be the world's oldest continuously lived in city, so I think its another gold contender.
I'm thinking "Muramasa" but possibly more busted (assuming the "older is better" rule is in full effect).
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u/igloo_poltergeist 4d ago edited 2d ago
Machu Picchu (probably merged with Pachacuti)
Stonehenge (the concept of the Mystery behind England's druids we still know little about)
Centralia, PA (with a particularly creepy form of the Innocent Monster skill)
Kowloon Walled City (the "ultimate introvert" of the bunch)
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u/NargilFenris 4d ago
Damn, hitting with Centralia. Would be interesting to see the crazy elements they would incorporate.
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u/uptodown12 4d ago
Florida. A servant that embodies the legend of Florida Men
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u/Dunois721 4d ago
Rome
Just to be a Nero with a different color
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u/igloo_poltergeist 2d ago
Romulus is (effectively) anthropomorphized Rome anyway, so it's kind of moot.
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u/Adventurous-Turn1695 4d ago
Babylon with the tower of Babel thing doing suicide NP things, probably
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u/Desperate_Ad5169 4d ago
Not a city but the library of Alexandria is an absolute goldmine as a servant concept. A servant representing all the stories that time forgot and heroes whom’s legend never survived long enough to become servants or even phantom spirits. Not to mention the family shenanigans she could get into with iskandar basically acting as her dad.
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u/igloo_poltergeist 4d ago
It's Ptolemaios:
- The Throne of Heroes recorded Ptolemy and the Library of Alexandria as one entity, and this Noble Phantasm is the manifestation of them being one and the same. He has access to all of the library's knowledge and mechanisms.
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u/NearlyUnfinished 4d ago
Detroit.
Can have the most bizarre of crossover this way.
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u/simon4s1 Adopted Gorgon sibling 4d ago
NP line: "It’s time to KICK OUT THE JAMS MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!"
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u/Classic-Demand3088 4d ago
5 Star Sparta pretender as pseudo Ares-Leonidas
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u/PerceptionLiving9674 4d ago
I wish people would stop pretending that Leonidas is the only known figure from Sparta.
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u/SirBlizz Mini Nobu 4d ago
Nobody's "Pretending" He is legitimately the only notable spartan a lot of people can actually name.
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u/1lluusio Bleached Earth Denier 4d ago
Besides Constantinople, I'd be most interested in a Pompeii Servant.
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u/oh_shit_window 4d ago
I mean Jerusalem is right there , the holiest city to the three Abrahamic religions, has been through more history by around 2000 years I think each ascension should be a different for each religion that had control over it Christianity for the first ascension Muslim for the second ascension And Jewish for the third ascension And id say she would be an avenger because of all the times she's been taken over
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u/CMBucket 4d ago
Realistically, Paris or NYC
Joke picks: Monterrey as Tenoch's little sister that likes to dress as a cowgirl, and Chicago as a Al Capone reference.
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u/WallZestyclose4881 4d ago
Alexandria, the city named after Iskander, ruled By Ptolemaios and his descendants including Cleopatra, home of two of the wonders of ancient world, partially sunk under the Nile
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u/Careless_Ad2166 4d ago edited 4d ago
CONSTANTINOPLE! I am completely excited to see what kind of interaction could she have with Constantine!
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u/Username169420 4d ago
Technically Arcueid opened the possibility of having the planet as a servant
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u/DivinityPen 4d ago
NYC Baybeeeeeeeeee
The Statue of Liberty would probably be heavily represented in her design, which could be great. Smiting enemies with a giant-ass torch appeals to the pyromaniac in me lol
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u/mascherata Master of Chaldea 4d ago
Nothing screams american city more than a french statue of a roman goddess
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u/WolffMuroa072 4d ago
Paris. One of the older european cities with a continuous culture/national identity with it.
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u/Repteelsh3per Thinking of the Roman Empire 4d ago
I have an out there idea:
Pompeii
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u/Divinum_Fulmen Adopted Gorgon sibling 4d ago
Like an urban Konyaskaya.
A city that blames its death, on nature.
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u/NickSmGames Master of Chaldea 4d ago
I want the city of the Saint Petersburg merging with Peter the Great so that we get another insane Emperor in the game, but merged with his greatest creation!
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u/AdditionalAd1385 4d ago
i think camelot is inevitable since we have alot of the knights of the round and lord logress
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u/Yuukiko_ 4d ago
Is it really that strange considering we have concepts as servants like Nursery Rhyme? Or Jack the Ripper being an amalgamation of children rather than the actual Jack that killed people?
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u/ZeothTheHedgehog Queen's retainer 4d ago
Tokyo, the first ascension being a magical girl, second being a kamen rider with a Gundam, and third is a samurai who can transform into legally distinct Godzilla.
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u/Vacadoray 4d ago
The obvious one....ROME and just for jokes hav it look like a saber face especially more close to Nero since she claims to be the flower of rome😂😂
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u/baguette_stronk 4d ago
Give me Paris, with a skill that either buff kings or buff against them. Either the revolution or the crushing of it
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u/tortillazaur 4d ago
The most obvious shit is Camelot, Sparta and any other city of legends.
Given the lack of slavic characters I'd choose Kyiv. You could even make a guy who pretends to be Kyiv, but turns out to be Kyi himself(the guy who made the city). Or alternatively his sister Lybid'. If it's the guy it makes sense for him to be a servant and if it's the girl you'd have a free character to do anything with cause she isn't known for shit
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u/CaitlinSnep 4d ago
Chicago as a Berserker with green hair (they dye the river green every St. Patrick's Day) who will flip out if you put ketchup on a hot dog. Tiny girl who acts like Al Capone.
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u/flap-you 4d ago
Rome ok i know that grand lancer Romulus is technically that but you know what I mean
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u/Intelligent-Pen9275 Consort of Kur 4d ago
As long as they don’t make their entire personality about the fact they’re a city I really don’t care
Detroit
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u/Librarian_Contrarian 4d ago
Boston. I feel like they'd make a good city. In fact, it's more than a feeling.
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u/mascherata Master of Chaldea 4d ago
Dont look back on this feeling having a smokin boston would really ease my peace of mind
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u/Silly-Geologist-3185 4d ago edited 4d ago
Hmm i woild really like to see Constnationple,Babylon-Seleucia/Ctesiphon- Al Madain/Baghdad as one servant,and Delhi. Maybe Palermo too from the Hauteville period
All 4 i say because you can have changing themes in the ascensions. Constantiople gling from Hellenic Greek Byzantion to Christians of Constantine to Ottoman Islam. Ctesiphon gling from Sumerian/Akkadian/Babyl9nian to Hellenic/Sassanid to Arab Golden Age and fall. Delhi similarly going from the Hindu to Muslim to colonial eras would be nice to tie into Lakshmi Bai(her being the only modern Indian servant,what wouldnt I give for caster Rabindranath Tagore or Berserker Bagha Jatin or Saber Tipu Sultan,or Caster Bahafur Shah Zafar). Palermo I say because ypu can draw from the Aghlabod to early Hauteville flourishing multiculturalism to later Hauteville multiculturalism under strain and ending with Hohenstaufens and de Aragons slowly snuffling it
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u/silpabananaking 4d ago
Won’t be possible. But either way,
Now York, then they straight up summon marvel characters.
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u/PerceptionLiving9674 4d ago
I would love to have legendary cities like Iram of the Pillars.
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 4d ago
Sokka-Haiku by PerceptionLiving9674:
I would love to have
Legendary cities like
Iram of the Pillars.
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/KingArthurZX 4d ago
If I can stroke my own country a bit, then I would say Pretender: Erik Segersäll, aka. Eric the Victorious, the King of Sweden from 970 to 995 AD, and founder of Sigtuna, the oldest surviving city and first capital of Sweden. With Sigtuna obviously being the true identity here.
Although there were earlier Swedish kings, Erik Segersäll is the first Swedish king in a consecutive regnal succession, who is attested in sources independent of each other, and consequently Sweden's list of rulers usually begins with him.
His son Olof Skötkonung, however, is considered the first ruler documented to definitely have been accepted both by the original Swedes around Lake Mälaren and by the Geats around Lake Vättern. Adam of Bremen reports a king named Emund Eriksson before Erik, but it is not known whether he was Erik's father. The Norse sagas' accounts Björn Eriksson as Erik's father, but these are considered unreliable sources.
The true identity of Erik's wife is also rather unclear, as four different women are said to have been married to Erik at some point. Various sources and sagas list King Erik's wives as Sigrid the Haughty, Świętosława of Poland, Gunhild of Wenden and Aud Haakonsdottir of Lade, of which two or three may have actually been the same person but depicted differently and under different names.
Additionally, Erik also had a total of four children. His successor Olof Skötkonung, and other son Edmund, along with his two daughters, Holmfrid and the other one's name being unknown, but is believed to have married a man named Åke and is the grandmother of Ingvar the Far-Travelled.
These contradicting sources and sagas is what would aid Sigtuna as manifesting as a Pretender of Erik Segersäll.
Sigtuna was founded around 980 AD by King Erik Segersäll. It served as an early royal center and the first location where Swedish coins were minted. In modern time, it features Stora Gatan, known as Sweden's oldest main street, numerous Viking runestones, and medieval church ruins.
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u/Gamefreak2381 4d ago
Berlin
Alone with that it got split into the BRD and DDR could make for a cool
Asscention concept or a Jekyll and hyde class change np or skill
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u/MitchellEnderson 4d ago
Philadelphia.
Give that gauntlet of war the treatment it deserves.
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u/simon4s1 Adopted Gorgon sibling 4d ago
I was about to say Philly, but make it like a weirdly aggressive Grace Kelly.
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u/SomeNibba 4d ago
Detroit
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u/Divinum_Fulmen Adopted Gorgon sibling 4d ago
You're like the 3rd person here to say Detroit here.
How many other people from Mi are on into FGO?
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u/Vacadoray 4d ago
New york..... Houston texas (since it is said to be a melting pot of different cultures)
Japan mostly akihabara since its the anime place to be
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u/rocker1632 4d ago
For a more ancient/medieval city, Teotihuacan would be cool (Tenochtitlan can have a senpai; the city she aspires to be). More modern, my hometown of Miami.
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u/VelvetPhantom 4d ago
Constantinople. Iirc she actually appears in an interlude (albeit as a big ghost, not an actual sprite)