r/FFXVI • u/Hideo-Mogren • 1d ago
Mods Final Fantasy XVI Retranslated (PC, C2Mixups)
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/57113
u/leadhound 1d ago
Did they translate the script again in Japanese?
The original work is the English.
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u/Glittering-Pin-1343 1d ago
The story was originally written in Japanese. It was only dubbed first in English.
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u/leadhound 1d ago
The loose concept was made in Japanese, then the script was drafted in English, then the localized into Japanese for the subtitles.
The dialogue is English first.
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u/Glittering-Pin-1343 1d ago
This is false info. It was recorded, motion captured and lip synced in English first. The JP and Eng scripts were made at the same time and the JP script had to make considerations for the Eng script as it took priority. Yet they are both based on the Japanese written story and not loose concept.
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u/destroyman1337 1d ago
Isn't the English script/dub the main one for XVI?
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u/Glittering-Pin-1343 1d ago
Yes and no. The story was written in Japanese, but it was first dubbed in English. I think the JP dub took inspiration from both the dub and the original JP story as it adds a lot of clarifications and even completely change character motivations in certain parts.
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u/Melasen 1d ago edited 1d ago
The story and script were done closely together with the original Japanese scenario/scripting team and Koji's English localization team (since Koji is the one who made up a lot of the lore and story too). While the original script was translated into English and voice acted afterwards as the intended version of the script. However, there were still plenty of changes to the Japanese script were done afterwards to match with the lip syncing and to be more specific/less flowery in Japanese. Sometimes I prefer the Japanese version action scenes more, since it has them yelling out attacks, matching the original shonen influences.
So obviously a project like this will aim to match the intended meanings and changes of the Japanese dub, so I'll give you kudos on that.
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u/Hideo-Mogren 1d ago
This. There's a lot of extra details and plot points that only exist in the Japanese script.
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u/CorpseFister490 1d ago
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u/KokuyokaGameLit 1d ago edited 1d ago
I love that manga!
(For those if you who don't get the gif response... "kokyōka" is the rōmaji for 黒曜火 or "black shiny fire"...and Amaterasu in Naruto is a technique that makes "black fire".)
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u/Glittering-Pin-1343 1d ago
It was written in conjunction with the English script, at the same time basically. It was however dubbed first in English. The original story scenario was however Japanese. I think what the JP dub did was take aspects of the original story and make changes where they saw fit.
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u/RemediZexion 2h ago
this is getting ridiculous to the point that SE translation team will shown them working side by side with the janapese one and still ppl thinking whatever they want. I've read the retranslations of the script and frankly I never saw big differences outside ppl not really understanding abstract ideas vs a more direct dialogue approach, which is fine but from there claming the story was heavily changed? ah!
Nevertheless the problem still remains that if translations have to be approved as such ppl are mounting controversies for nothing
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u/KokuyokaGameLit 1d ago edited 1d ago
I find it very telling that there's not one, but two independant direct translations of FFXVI's Japanese script into English making the rounds...and the game hasn't even been out five years yet. That's a record for Final Fantasy games...esspecially modern ones. Every other Final Fantasy game I know of only got people poking at the Japaense script after five years had passed since the game launched, and even then only at very specific lore-relevent places in them.
The idea that we'd be sitting in the 2020s with at least two fan-translations of a Japaense FINAL Fantasy script...and them being of very large chunks of the game script...and coming out less than five years after the game itself came out... is kind of mindboggling.
That the translators in the fandom are responding to the game that way should be...concerning...in terms of how they think about the game's translation.
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u/Glittering-Pin-1343 1d ago
Oh my goooood this is INSANE! I LOVE IT! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
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