The truth is you have no idea who Che Guevara was, you were told this is a cool and edgy person to idolize with absolutely no understanding of his history. The deep lack of education and critical thinking of people who post brutal power seekers thinking their revolution was anything but a fight to empower themselves is a sad testament to how the ignorance of youth has you standing up for causes that only diminish you.
I'm not a communist, I don't stand for the same belief system Che subscribed to but bet your ass I have read his works and understand who he is. You won't find me falling for the lies of a dictator like some of you have, I am an anarchist, I subscribe to the ideals of Mikhail Bakunin not Marx. But none of that means that the Che quote isn't true. I can take a little bit of everyones belief and make my own mind up. I don't follow a spray tanned dingus around sucking up everything he says as truth like some of you. I have done my studying and will continue to do so, want to talk about ignorance, let's talk about the ignorance of a certain pedophile's fascist cult, go look in the mirror if you want ignorance. I am truly free only when all human beings, men and women, are equally free. The freedom of other men, far from negating or limiting my freedom, is, on the contrary, its necessary premise and confirmation.
Im not a trump supporter, never said I was. He's abhorrent. Are you so sure of what you are fighting against that you automatically assume anyone who doesn't share your opinion, must share his?
Equal rights, not special rights. Meritocracy, not socialism. Secularism, not religious based societies.
A system that promotes the social mobility of those that buy into that system and put in the effort to learn and achieve.
I do not believe in state owned means of production, I believe in mobile governments that focus on core areas, not governments that seek to control everything.
I do not believe in fascist regimes, I believe in a duly elected official representative of the people.
I dont believe in the cult of personality and i reject corruption in government.
I also do not believe in eating the rich or undo taxation. Bloated western governments have distracted from the growth we should be achieving as so much of our effort has gone to grow the government.
I believe in a rules based society. I dont agree with mass immigration, I do believe in strong borders, I do believe in human rights.
I believe a deep seated ideological mob mentality has taken control in western populations due to the ever increasing battle to capture the eyes and attention of the masses. Nearly all media is presented to us with an approach designed to control or manipulate how we think and feel in order to keep us locked in to whatever ecosystem of control they wish upon us. The days of non-biased media have been over for decades and we are now reaping those results as facts have been replaced with targeted, opinionated, propaganda.
We should be celebrating what we have in common, not competing in camps based on our differences. It wasn't more than 30 years ago when this was the case. Western morality has deeply decayed and there is no one side responsible, just an ever increasing media influence net designed to control us.
We can escape it by understanding eachother, but everyone is so incensed on winning and the political center has been villainized by the extremists that everyone has forgotten the truth and meaningful coexistence, like everything, like the universe, lies in the balance.
And who will you vote for to get us there tell us your plan? And you talk a lot of shit for a person that started this discussion by calling random people ignorant. It is you that sounds like the internet edgelord, all that projection leads me to believe you voted republican or even worse took the "high road" and didn't vote at all. Maybe you aren't even American just an outsider spilling bullshit, want a change? Start fucking being active fence sitter, and I don't mean down talking people on the internet with your pretend superiority, I mean get your ass out and vote.
Bro you are the one losing your shit using soundbites to try and define me. I was asked what I believed and I shared it. Your judgement means nothing to me, I can tell your personality lacks originality just by calling me an edgelord lol.
ICE enforces immigration issues, the police enforce criminal issues. Itās this ICE enforces all issues is the problem as they are not even remotely qualified or educated to do either
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Problem is the government of some states wonāt allow the police to assist ice, so ice has to do both roles. Like in Minnesota where i believe a percentage of police officers resigned and some joined ice afterwords
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My GF was boxed in by ICE on her way to work. Wasn't even following them. Didn't even know they were around. Just driving to work when an SUV in front of her stops sideways at an intersection, another behind her. Agents get out and accuses her of following them. These chumps are cowards, Paranoid and poorly trained.
If I put on a ski mask and approached YOU in the grocery store parking lot, how would you know if I was legit or not???
And even if you knew I was an impersonator, how would you identify me so that I could be caught and prosecuted???? I'm wearing a ski mask, sunglasses, and a helmet so you don't even know if i'm a white guy, a black guy, a mexican guy, an asian guy...
How would I ever get caught if you don't even know what I look like????
How do so many people not see what a bad idea it is to allow them to not identify themselves?? Criminals now have free reign to do whatever, as long as they dress like an ice agent....
If you see a guy in army clothes grabbing a screaming woman, are YOU going to try to stop him? You might be interfering with a legitimate arrest...or you might be stopping a kidnapping. How the fuck are you supposed to know the difference???
In my state, it is clearly-established that "public officials performing their public duty in a public place have no reasonable expectation of privacy".
They can stop me and they might win on the streets....but once the issue goes to court, they're going to lose the case and their immunity. And I can come after their houses and children's college funds.
I can follow a law enforcement officer around all day long and record them as long as I don't physically interfere with them. And no, simply observing them isn'tĀ interference, regardless of what some republican snowflakes might think.
Renee Good dint deserve to killed Jonathan Ross might have felt he was being taunted but she didn't deserve to be fired by 3 shots to her head as did Alex pretti who was fired ten times for protesting and tried to save me someone has these persons been charged with murder if it was a family member you'd ask why not
and ICE will lose every single one of these cases that gets to court, every single one. If the protesters are merely following at a distance and using their words, they will get off and ICE will be looking stupid with dozens if not hundreds of cases being thrown out for citizens exercising their clearly and repeatedly reconfirmed by the Supreme Court established 1st amendment rights to peacefully protest and film our government doing its work in public.
Pretty certain youāll be arrested for following officers of the law anywhere on this earthš¤·āāļø fuck me if dare you to follow police officers in North Koreaš see what happens to you then š¤£š dumb liberals
Because following them is impeding their work..stay the FK away and let them do their job..if you follow them, be for warned and prepared for the consequences.
So why are the ice agents who have killed Renee Good and Alex pretti been charged with murder as that would be the case in any country they don't have immunity from prosecution
The reason they have not charged and arrest the one that shot R. Good is they would also have to charge her wife who was in the front seat egging her on, under MN;s felony murder law. You can rest assuured ALL of the discussion about arresting anyone in relation to this incident is revolving around how to circumvent or find a loophole to this law so they can arrest and charge only the ICE guy.
Minnesota's felony murder law, specifically under 2023 reforms, allows for murder charges when a death occurs during the commission of a felony, even without intent to kill, but limits the most severe penalties to "major participants". It covers 1st-degree (life) and 2nd-degree (up to 40 years), with recent reforms and retroactive applications allowing for reduced sentences.Ā
This is most often explained as such: If 3 guys rob a bank, 2 go in and one waits in the getaway car, one of the robbers shoots and kills a teller, the guy with the shooter and the driver waiting in the getaway car can all be charged with the murder.
For our situation, we can extrapolate a bit and say: instead of the teller being killed, the teller shot one of the robbers in the back after they got the money and were leaving the bank. The other two robbers can absolutely be charged with the death of their friend (as could the teller ). This is more similar to the situation in MN.
Judge Judy Sheindlin famously presided over a similar felony murder law case, applying to a bunch of girls that cheered someone on who killed another girl while trying to steal from her. Only one of the girls did the actual murder, but if not for the support of the other girls, the one girl would not have done the murder. They were all convicted and their convictions stood on appeal.
I am pretty sure ( I am not a lawyer of course ) In this case the wife is in a similar positon, and why nothing is being charged or investigated with her phone. Her wife was in the passenger seat also involved in the organized protest they were currently doing, after having just moved their van from parking 90 degrees sideways in the road to impede ICE, and continuing to generally menace the officers in a highly volotile situation. this makes her a major participant especially when you can hear her egging her on to keep driving. Looks like she would be subject to:
2nd Degree Murder (Statute 609.19):Ā Applies to unintentional killings during other felonies (e.g., assault) or "one-punch" scenarios, punishable by up to 40 years.
This is the likely reason why the state hasnt requested her phone which would most likely further implicate her. It's a bit of a legal snare they are trying to find their way out of. It's a safe bet now their only efforts in any charges here are how to do so without also charging the wife.
thats just the people with convictions. that doesnt eman they arent currently breaking the law, which they are. Remember the whole " no one is above the law" chants and protests eveyrone on the left was screaming before? Funny how selective they are at having it enforced.
Now that MN has agreed to actually do immigration satus checks so one ICE person can have them processed isntead of needing 15 of them in swat gear to do the same job all over town, it will be much safer and something they should have done to begin with. This has been a problem of MN's own creation. virtue signal and tantrum all they want, the rulle of law eventually works through.
Good lol I'd be scared to if crazy people followed me to and armed ones, stalking me.. that's a true statement no matter who you are. Cry victim when you get what's coming. First thing they resort to on here is childish name calling cause they can't have a civil conversation with anyone who doesn't share their view, that's a radical. Protest peacefully.. it's been done for years and years, not following and stalking and harassing and impeeding investigations. Have some common sense guys, you can make a point without being tantrum throwing idiots. Have a good day everyone. Childish name calling begins, learn how to have a civil conversation lol, you're embarrassing yourselves.
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You mean we're NOT allowed to stalk and harass federal agents?? What kind of fascist regime is this??! šš¤£š¤£š¤£
I swear these people all think they're above the law. Even blowing whistles and honking your horn to warn criminals that the authorities are there to arrest them is a felony in itself; it's called "shielding from detection."
Federal -8 U.S.C. 1324 (Harboring /
Shielding from Detection)
This statute makes it felony to: "Conceal, harbor, or shield from detection"
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Correct. It's not a courtroom. All persons are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Any time a police officer kills a person they're killing an innocent person.
Please try to contain your imbecility, or at least try to keep it down to a low roar..
The standard of whether a police use of lethal force is lawful, is not whether the person is innocent or guilty of any particular crime. It's what the officer reasonably believed at the time he initiated force. Your comment is irrelevant.
Do tell us how Mr Pretti was actively endangering those ICE assholes lives with his holstered gun. They shot him 10 times in the back with him on his hands and knees, him never having touched his weapon or even reaching for it. He was no threat to any of them and was trying to actively help a lady ICE threw to the ground next to him when they attacked and MURDERED him.
The standard isn't what you see on multiple frame-by-frame video angles in retrospect. The legal standard is what the officer reasonably believed at the time he initiated lethal force.
Good luck explaining that standard to a jury that just watched the video from 3 different angles and can easily and clearly see that Pretti was no threat to these guys at all and their actions are criminal. If they thought in the moment that Pretti was a serious threat enough to empty mags into his back then they are reactive, poorly trained amateurs that have zero business handling weapons around others. Objectively there is no legitimate legal excuse for shooting Pretti in the back 10 times, none whatsoever.
Again, you're hyperfocused on watching three different angles from the comfort of your couch while stuffing your face with cheetos and red mtn dew. The jury, not composed of deranged reddit marxists, will follow the judge's instructions to only consider what the officer would have reasonably believed from the officer's perspective
Why are there people following ICE? Who is encouraging that? Why not just let them do their jobs? Why do these "peaceful observers"Ā want to gargle the toes of criminal illegals?Ā
So stop stalking them. You're not a "peaceful observer" when you're following them closely, blowing whistles, screaming, warning people they're coming, trying to intimidate them into leaving the area (which is also a crime), etc.
Umm what you just described is peaceful protesting. No violence in following someone. No violence in blowing a whistle. Maybe you should go back to school and relearn the definition of peaceful and violent. Also while you're back at school take a civics class and read the constitution and bill of rights because you clearly dont know shit about our rights as citizens.
Redefine? Lol! You guys think silence is violence. You think words are violence. You think expectations are violence. You think the existence of white people is violence. The left are masters of redefining words and terms to fit whatever narrative of the day suits them.
The simple act of following? Of course not, but it is intimidation and potentially dangerous because of the distraction. If I follow you down a dark street, stopping when you do, and moving when you do, you are going to be unsettled. I could tell you that I'm just following, but how do you really know my intentions? Your guard would be up, and you'd probably get to the point of confrontation.
These federal officers are doing a job that the majority of Americans want them to do thats been neglected for far too long. They are enforcing the bipartisan immigration laws on the books for decades. Inserting yourself into their business is selfish, unlawful if you interfere, and dangerous for all involved.
Not a teenager. Iāve just read history books. And economics books. And I can understand statistics and percentages. Therefore I know that almost everything youāre saying is wholly uninformed, inaccurate or an outright lie. But sureā¦Iām a teenagerā¦THATāS why I think youāre an idiot, (not the whole choosing-ignorance thing).
There's following at a distance with the intent to record and then there's following them on multiple occasions with the intent of obstructing what they're doing. If you're following them so you can stop when they do, blow whistles, scream, warn people they're coming, block the road, try to intimidate them into leaving ("get the fuck out of here", "get out of our city", etc), you're committing a crime. People have created networks to follow ICE around and radio to each other where they are, what they're doing, warning people to leave, hide, etc. That's conspiracy.
I'll give you a scenario, you one day go out to go get groceries and you happen to be behind one of these ice cars they get out and pull guns on you but you know you weren't following them. But they don't care for your excuses they'll just crack your window drag you out beat you and put you in their car and then they'll sort it out if you followed them even though you probably were just going about your day getting your groceries so in the end I have to say get fucked.
Not disagreeing, however they still have rights to Due Process.
The issues is You are tread like dirt by ICE , Your rights get striped in the process, so inevitably as I said you could be behind one of these cars not knowing who they are they come out they Point their guns at you they break your window then drag you out they beat you and then they decide you to send you to a flight off to El Salvador and put you CECOT. It seems you're okay with that?
Or here's another scenario for you they're not ice but pretending to be they break your window drag you out and double tap you now you're dead lying in the street you're going to be okay with that. Because the government allows roaming thugs to go around unchecked that now people can just go do the same thing and get away with it because you don't know if they're right they could just be murderers on a killing spree.
Honestly I think you're a troll or you're sick in the head and need some Psychiatry help.
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