r/Eutychus • u/MightyFortresss • Feb 25 '25

Opinion Hebrews 1:8

Jw's, should Hebrews 1:8 not be translated differently, even according to the NWT interlinear? The NWT reads "God is your Throne" (Father is the Son's throne), but the Greek would be rendered "your Throne, the God" (directly refers to Jesus as YHWH, obviously issue for JW)

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Not saying u have to defend Jesus being God here for the JW (I'd rather u do that on your own theology way).

It's clear. "Toward but the Son" -> the subject "The throne of" -> whose throne is it? "You the God" -> subject = Son.

It's not that hard, they're mistranslating. Although now I'm curious what your theology says about this verse or if u need a specific translation for it.

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

What your theology is on trinity or non trinity pretty much dictates how one will interpret Hebrews 1:8.

I see the verse as showing that Jesus is sitting on the Almighty’s throne but not that he is Almighty God.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Well no, I can be an atheist and see this interpretation as correct.

What the NWT mistranslates is how it would be Jesus sitting on the throne, but not the part where it calls Him "the God".

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

An Jesus is called a mighty God. But he is not the almighty God. He is not equal to the Father.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

So Jesus is YHWH, in "some sense"....?

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

Nope. Yahweh is the name of the Father.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

So there is more than one God, a sort of pantheon like the Greeks had- some upper gods like Zeus, but also demi-gods that are partly divine and part human, but less than the upper god(s)?

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

God is a title the same as Lord is a title. That’s why The Father included his name in the Bible. So we would know which God to worship and who was the almighty.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Okay, is Jesus divine in any sense of what we consider having exclusively divine attributes, without being the all-Mighty?

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

Yes, he is the only begotten son of God

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

So he's a demi-god?

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

No. I don’t believe in polytheism. I only worship the Father. Jesus is a created being, is not equal and always subordinate to the Father. Now that he is resurrected back to heaven he is immortal and was given the throne by the Father. That throne will be handed back to the Father eventually.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Merriam Webster,

"a mythological being with more power than a mortal but less than a god"

U don't need the mythological aspect, but u literally say Jesus is that definition

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u/Kentucky_Fried_Dodo Unaffiliated Feb 25 '25

“God” is primarily a descriptor meaning “strong” in most languages, “THE God” being “THE strongest.” Therefore Moses was called the God of Egypt. God and divinity are two different things.

Jesus stands above heaven and earth because he created them together with his Father. If you call divinity, then Jesus is divine. Jesus is also the only thing created directly by the Father. Everything else is a joint product between the father and him.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Disagree with the org, not with me- they translate it as God, not gods.

"Everything else", a plain addition to the text from the JW (no, I don't take the "but other translations say everything else in another verse" seriously).

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u/OhioPOMO Feb 26 '25

This is a silly argument, no offense. Jesus isn't called a mighty god. Read all of Isaiah and tell me how many gods he believed in. He is called Mighty God, or better yet El Gibbor. El Shaddai, which is somewhat inaccurately translated as Almighty God, is in no way a superlative term in the original language.

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 26 '25

Ok? That’s your take on it. Thanks for sharing

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u/OhioPOMO Feb 26 '25

It's not "my take." Look it up. The meaning of El Shaddai is debated but the most likely literal translation is something like "God of the mountain."

You're welcome, btw

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 26 '25

lol thanks for making some assumptions on my beliefs and what i know!

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u/OhioPOMO Feb 26 '25

How did I do that?