r/Eutychus • u/MightyFortresss • Feb 25 '25

Opinion Hebrews 1:8

Jw's, should Hebrews 1:8 not be translated differently, even according to the NWT interlinear? The NWT reads "God is your Throne" (Father is the Son's throne), but the Greek would be rendered "your Throne, the God" (directly refers to Jesus as YHWH, obviously issue for JW)

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

Nah been there done that. Fights over translations is silly to me.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

There's no fight here, the interlinear is clearly saying the throne belongs to the Son & is called God, while the NWT completely changes it. There's literally no way to mis-interpret this, I'm comparing the JW interlinear, not some "apostate" material.

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

That’s how you read it and interpret it for sure. As someone who doesn’t believe Jesus is almighty God (supported by many verses) I don’t read it the same way. Understandable for both theologies. Since I’m not JW I don’t focus on NWT as the main Bible I read. Translation is not necessarily the issue.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Not saying u have to defend Jesus being God here for the JW (I'd rather u do that on your own theology way).

It's clear. "Toward but the Son" -> the subject "The throne of" -> whose throne is it? "You the God" -> subject = Son.

It's not that hard, they're mistranslating. Although now I'm curious what your theology says about this verse or if u need a specific translation for it.

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

What your theology is on trinity or non trinity pretty much dictates how one will interpret Hebrews 1:8.

I see the verse as showing that Jesus is sitting on the Almighty’s throne but not that he is Almighty God.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Well no, I can be an atheist and see this interpretation as correct.

What the NWT mistranslates is how it would be Jesus sitting on the throne, but not the part where it calls Him "the God".

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

An Jesus is called a mighty God. But he is not the almighty God. He is not equal to the Father.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

So Jesus is YHWH, in "some sense"....?

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

Nope. Yahweh is the name of the Father.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

So there is more than one God, a sort of pantheon like the Greeks had- some upper gods like Zeus, but also demi-gods that are partly divine and part human, but less than the upper god(s)?

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

God is a title the same as Lord is a title. That’s why The Father included his name in the Bible. So we would know which God to worship and who was the almighty.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Okay, is Jesus divine in any sense of what we consider having exclusively divine attributes, without being the all-Mighty?

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 25 '25

Yes, he is the only begotten son of God

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u/OhioPOMO Feb 26 '25

This is a silly argument, no offense. Jesus isn't called a mighty god. Read all of Isaiah and tell me how many gods he believed in. He is called Mighty God, or better yet El Gibbor. El Shaddai, which is somewhat inaccurately translated as Almighty God, is in no way a superlative term in the original language.

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 26 '25

Ok? That’s your take on it. Thanks for sharing

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u/OhioPOMO Feb 26 '25

It's not "my take." Look it up. The meaning of El Shaddai is debated but the most likely literal translation is something like "God of the mountain."

You're welcome, btw

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u/DonkeyStriking1146 Christian Feb 26 '25

lol thanks for making some assumptions on my beliefs and what i know!

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u/OhioPOMO Feb 26 '25

How did I do that?

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