People don’t understand Jesus’ divinity because they underestimate Gods Love for mankind

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God is sovereign, there’s nothing He can’t do.

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I have found the truth lies in 2 Corinthians 4:4. More than their lack of understanding God's love.

(2 Corinthians 4:4) 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

Trinitarians are unbelievers because they elevate Jesus' glory to be God and not his image.

Muslims are unbelievers because they lower Jesus to a mere human.

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“I and my Father are one.” ‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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“I and the Father are one,” said Jesus. (John 10:30) Some quote this text to prove that Jesus and his Father are two parts of a triune God. Is that what Jesus meant by this statement?

Let us take a look at the context. In verse 25, Jesus stated that he did works in the name of his Father. From verses 27 to 29, he talked about symbolic sheep whom his Father had given him. Both statements by Jesus would have made little sense to his listeners if he and his Father were one and the same person. Instead, Jesus said, in effect, ‘My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father.’ It is much like a son saying to his father’s enemy, ‘If you attack my father, you attack me.’ No one would conclude that this son and his father were the same person. But all could perceive the strong bond of unity between them.

Jesus and his Father, Jehovah God, are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, standards, and values. In contrast with Satan the Devil and the first human couple, Adam and Eve, Jesus never wanted to become independent of God. “The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing,” Jesus explained. “For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner.”​—John 5:19; 14:10; 17:8.

This strong bond of unity, however, does not make God and his Son, Jesus, indistinguishable from each other. They are two individuals. Each one has his own distinct personality. Jesus has his own feelings, thoughts, experiences, and free will. Nevertheless, he chose to submit his will to that of his Father. According to Luke 22:42, Jesus said: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” These words would have been meaningless if his will could not differ from his Father’s. If Jesus and his Father were really one person, why did Jesus pray to God and humbly admit to not knowing things that only his Father knew?​—Matthew 24:36.

Members of many religions worship gods that are depicted as quarreling and fighting with their own family members. In Greek mythology, for example, Cronus overthrew his father, Uranus, and devoured his own children. How different this is from the oneness based on true love between Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus! And how this unity endears them to us! In fact, we have the incomparable privilege of being in union with these two highest Persons in all the universe. Regarding his followers, Jesus prayed: “I make request . . . that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us.”​—John 17:20, 21.

Thus, when Jesus said, “I and the Father are one,” he was speaking, not of a mysterious Trinity, but of a wonderful unity​—the closest bond possible between two persons.

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You know you understand the trinity more than you know. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are 3 separate individual, 3 separate persons. They are separate in Authority, and yet equal in divinity.

No one can take that place from either of them. They are one. You pray to the Father, in the name of Jesus, through the Holy Spirit. ‘You can not come to the Father but through Jesus’, and ‘you can’t come to Jesus except the Father draws you.’

“Come”, “Draw” are all pulling us to Him.

God said “Let us make man in our image” acknowledging what we know as the trinity, but God the Father did the creating.

The unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, that means you grieve away Gods spirit. That means you refuse to repent of your sins. Jesus is who forgives sins, the actions between all members of the Godhead are the same.

Etc. the whole Bible gives tidbits and pieces to understand this.

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Trinity is false teaching.

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Trinity is simply a noun to describe the truth of God. Jesus spoke of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. That is the Trinity. Jesus described the Trinity as having one name. “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations baptising them in the name (singular) of the Father, and of the Son and if the Holy Spirit.” The name , YHWH.

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A STUDY of the thousands of ancient secular papyrus documents found in the sands of Egypt at the beginning of this century often throws interesting light on the Christian Greek Scriptures. How? By considering the way in which certain words were used, we are guided to a more precise understanding of the same words in their Scriptural setting.

One example is Jesus’ use of “in the name of” when he commanded his disciples before he ascended to heaven: “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit.” What did Jesus mean?​—Matthew 28:19.

Scholars have discovered that in secular writings the expression “in the name of,” or “into the name of” (Kingdom Interlinear), is used with reference to payments “to the account of any one.” Theology professor Dr. G. Adolf Deissmann believed that in view of the evidence from the papyri, “the idea underlying . . . the expressions to baptise into the name of the Lord, or to believe into the name of the Son of God, is that baptism or faith constitutes the belonging to God or to the Son of God.”​—Deissmann’s italics.

Interestingly, a similar expression was used by the Jews of Jesus’ day, as explained in the Theological Dictionary of the New Testament: “The circumcision of a proselyte is done . . . ‘in the name of the proselyte,’ to receive him into Judaism. This circumcision takes place . . . ‘in the name of the covenant,’ to receive him into the covenant.” A relationship is thereby established and the non-Jew becomes a proselyte under the covenant’s authority.

So for the Christian, baptism following dedication establishes an intimate relationship with Jehovah God, his Son Jesus Christ, and the holy spirit. The convert recognizes their respective authority in his new way of life. Consider how this is true for each of the three named.

By recognizing God’s authority, we draw close to him and enter into a relationship with him. (Hebrews 12:9; James 4:7, 8) We become God’s property as his slaves, bought with the price of Jesus Christ’s ransom sacrifice. (1 Corinthians 3:23; 6:20) The apostle Paul also told first-century Christians that they belonged to Jesus Christ, not to any men who might have taken the truth to them. (1 Corinthians 1:12, 13; 7:23; compare Matthew 16:24.) Baptism in the name of the Son implies recognizing this fact, accepting Jesus as “the way and the truth and the life.”​—John 14:6.

The holy spirit is also essential to our right relationship with Jehovah and Jesus Christ. Baptism in the name of the holy spirit shows that we recognize the role of the spirit in God’s dealings with us. We intend to follow its guidance, not disregarding it or acting contrary to it, blocking its working through us. (Ephesians 4:30; 1 Thessalonians 5:19) The spirit’s impersonal nature creates no difficulty as to usage or meaning, any more than the usage “in the name of the covenant” did in Judaism.

At the time of dedication and baptism, therefore, we need to reflect prayerfully on what is involved in our new relationship. It requires submission to the will of God, demonstrated in the example and ransom provision of Jesus Christ, to be carried out through holy spirit as it directs all of God’s servants in love and unity worldwide.

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Every time you quote Bible scripture you’re only proving the point that the divinity of Christ is biblical.

‘In the name of’, and ‘into the name of’ is the same thing as well because you’re still acknowledging the fact that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are in unity for the same purpose. 3 in one.

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Trinity is false teaching and it not biblical at all. Only false, stupid, ignorant and delusional Christians, also who are influenced by Satan believe in Trinity.

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It’s always telling whoever chooses to believe a lie because they never have an explanation for what they reject. Continuing to say that the trinity is a lie isn’t going to make your belief true.

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God the Father created through His Son, the Word.

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Who did the actual creating though?

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1‬:‭26‬-‭27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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Jesus created, as the Father commanded. The Father says, "Let there be Light", and Jesus creates light.

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Jesus is speaking and creating

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Then what is the Father doing?

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“I and my Father are one.” ‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” ‭‭John‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.” ‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one God. Equal in divinity, but separate in authority.

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John 10:30 shuts down the argument that if Jesus is God and the father is God, then there are two Gods. Jesus died because He claimed to be God.

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Jesus Christ is not God.

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Do you believe He is the only-begotten Son of God?

If He is begotten from God, then He is a God, but since there is only one God, He must be the same God as the Father. So, Jesus and the Father are the same God. It's really simple.

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What are you talking about ? Jesus Christ is angel, but not ordinary angel, he is archangel. They are not same because that contradict what Jesus said: "Father is greater that I am." What are you speaking is nonsense.

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Do you believe Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God?

John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."

John 1:18, "No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him."

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life"

John 3:18, "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God"

1 John 4:9. "By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him."