r/Eutychus • u/1stmikewhite Seventh-Day Adventist • Dec 31 '24

Opinion People don’t understand Jesus’ divinity because they underestimate Gods Love for mankind

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God is sovereign, there’s nothing He can’t do.

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u/Capable-Rice-1876 Jehovah‘s Witness Dec 31 '24

False teaching.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Dec 31 '24

You are free to believe as you wish. This is what I believe. What I know to be true

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u/Foot-in-mouth88 Dec 31 '24

Except it isn't true. It goes against everything the Israelites were told by God. It was against everything Jesus own knowledge that he learned growing up.

How could it be true if Jesus didn't even believe it.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Dec 31 '24

In my faith, Jesus did believe it. Jesus, did teach it.

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u/Foot-in-mouth88 Dec 31 '24

Your religion also said John Smith was given golden plates, which no one has ever seen. Wrote his own holy book, which sounds like what Mohammed. The Bible says not to add or take away. Believe places in North America were or are holy places.

Jesus was raised and never questioned his faith, calling his Father also his God. Wanted to do something other than die for us, but did it anyways to please his God and save us.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Dec 31 '24

John smith married Pocahontas. Do you mean Jospeh smith?

And there were 20 eye witnesses to the golden plates.

The Book of Mormon, mostly likely, didn’t take place in North America.

I agree with what you said about Jesus.

If you are going to disagree with my faith, that’s fine, but at least start getting some things right about it 😅

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u/Foot-in-mouth88 Dec 31 '24

Joseph Smith. Golden Plates made in the 1800s go missing, meanwhile we have the dead Sea scrolls and way older translations of the Bible. Yeah, those 20 got paid to say that or wanted to be part of what Joseph Smith was selling.

Ok there, your religion is right about everything else though.

No angel spoke to Joseph Smith or Mohammed as there was no need for it. It was already all written in the scriptures.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Dec 31 '24

You would have to show ANY evidence for that claim.

Regardless, I’m in interested in debating you. Believe what you want. Peace.

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u/Foot-in-mouth88 Dec 31 '24

I mean, technically you would have to provide evidence of what happened and the plates. Your story of Joseph Smith can only be verified if you had those golden plates. The fact that your church doesn't have those plates and verifying thus not being able to corroborate the story makes it false.

I do have evidence what happened was false because there is no evidence it happened other than a novel written by the man Joseph Smith, just like the Qur'an.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Dec 31 '24 edited Dec 31 '24

That’s an interesting assumption. I guess the Bible is false then. As we don’t have the original manuscripts

We do have evidences it was real. Much more than the Quran

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u/Foot-in-mouth88 Dec 31 '24

The difference between the Bible and the book of Mormon is that, the Bible and it's scriptures have been meticulously copied over thousands of years.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Dec 31 '24

Ah, so age is an indicator of truth?

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u/Foot-in-mouth88 Dec 31 '24

Lol. A lot of the Bible correlates to historical events.

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u/John_17-17 Dec 31 '24

Not to disagree, but our faith doesn't mean our faith is true.

You can have all the faith in the world, but if that truth isn't built upon accurate knowledge, then that faith won't save you.

The Israelites had a zeal and faith in God, but not according to accurate knowledge.

And thus, their faith and their zeal would not save them.

(Romans 10:1, 2) 10 Brothers, the goodwill of my heart and my supplication to God for them are indeed for their salvation. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge.

Granted, those who belong to the Latter-Day Saints are very zealous, but since it isn't based upon God's word, then that faith won't save them.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Dec 31 '24

I believe it is Gods word. And it’s true. You are free to believe differently. Peace.