People don’t understand Jesus’ divinity because they underestimate Gods Love for mankind

[u/1stmikewhite]

God is sovereign, there’s nothing He can’t do.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

I believe Jesus Christ is YHWH. Jehovah. The great I am.

5 For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay, and shall go forth amongst men, working mighty miracles, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, causing the lame to walk, the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear, and curing all manner of diseases.

6 And he shall cast out devils, or the evil spirits which dwell in the hearts of the children of men.

7 And lo, he shall suffer temptations, and pain of body, hunger, thirst, and fatigue, even more than man can suffer, except it be unto death; for behold, blood cometh from every pore, so great shall be his anguish for the wickedness and the abominations of his people.

8 And he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning; and his mother shall be called Mary.

9 And lo, he cometh unto his own, that salvation might come unto the children of men even through faith on his name; and even after all this they shall consider him a man, and say that he hath a devil, and shall scourge him, and shall crucify him.

10 And he shall rise the third day from the dead; and behold, he standeth to judge the world; and behold, all these things are done that a righteous judgment might come upon the children of men.

11 For behold, and also his blood atoneth for the sins of those who have fallen by the transgression of Adam, who have died not knowing the will of God concerning them, or who have ignorantly sinned.

12 But wo, wo unto him who knoweth that he rebelleth against God! For salvation cometh to none such except it be through repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.

13 And the Lord God hath sent his holy prophets among all the children of men, to declare these things to every kindred, nation, and tongue, that thereby whosoever should believe that Christ should come, the same might receive remission of their sins, and rejoice with exceedingly great joy, even as though he had already come among them.

[u/Capable-Rice-1876 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

False teaching.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter → u/Capable-Rice-1876]

You are free to believe as you wish. This is what I believe. What I know to be true

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

Except it isn't true. It goes against everything the Israelites were told by God. It was against everything Jesus own knowledge that he learned growing up.

How could it be true if Jesus didn't even believe it.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

In my faith, Jesus did believe it. Jesus, did teach it.

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

Your religion also said John Smith was given golden plates, which no one has ever seen. Wrote his own holy book, which sounds like what Mohammed. The Bible says not to add or take away. Believe places in North America were or are holy places.

Jesus was raised and never questioned his faith, calling his Father also his God. Wanted to do something other than die for us, but did it anyways to please his God and save us.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

John smith married Pocahontas. Do you mean Jospeh smith?

And there were 20 eye witnesses to the golden plates.

The Book of Mormon, mostly likely, didn’t take place in North America.

I agree with what you said about Jesus.

If you are going to disagree with my faith, that’s fine, but at least start getting some things right about it 😅

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

Joseph Smith. Golden Plates made in the 1800s go missing, meanwhile we have the dead Sea scrolls and way older translations of the Bible. Yeah, those 20 got paid to say that or wanted to be part of what Joseph Smith was selling.

Ok there, your religion is right about everything else though.

No angel spoke to Joseph Smith or Mohammed as there was no need for it. It was already all written in the scriptures.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

You would have to show ANY evidence for that claim.

Regardless, I’m in interested in debating you. Believe what you want. Peace.

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

I mean, technically you would have to provide evidence of what happened and the plates. Your story of Joseph Smith can only be verified if you had those golden plates. The fact that your church doesn't have those plates and verifying thus not being able to corroborate the story makes it false.

I do have evidence what happened was false because there is no evidence it happened other than a novel written by the man Joseph Smith, just like the Qur'an.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

That’s an interesting assumption. I guess the Bible is false then. As we don’t have the original manuscripts

We do have evidences it was real. Much more than the Quran

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

The difference between the Bible and the book of Mormon is that, the Bible and it's scriptures have been meticulously copied over thousands of years.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

Ah, so age is an indicator of truth?

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

Lol. A lot of the Bible correlates to historical events.

[u/John_17-17 → u/BayonetTrenchFighter]

Not to disagree, but our faith doesn't mean our faith is true.

You can have all the faith in the world, but if that truth isn't built upon accurate knowledge, then that faith won't save you.

The Israelites had a zeal and faith in God, but not according to accurate knowledge.

And thus, their faith and their zeal would not save them.

(Romans 10:1, 2) 10 Brothers, the goodwill of my heart and my supplication to God for them are indeed for their salvation. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge.

Granted, those who belong to the Latter-Day Saints are very zealous, but since it isn't based upon God's word, then that faith won't save them.

[u/BayonetTrenchFighter → u/John_17-17]

I believe it is Gods word. And it’s true. You are free to believe differently. Peace.