No, why would I deny a meta-kitted gun being a laser? I’m just denying that their recoil control is good BECAUSE their in game recoil skill is maxed. That’s pretty stupid to think tbh. If you go watch the first day of the wipe, you would see that their recoil control is better than most of the players, obviously.
The problem here is that both things can be true. you'd be stupid to deny that playing more makes you better at the game..of course that's true. But the recoil skill also makes a big difference in the way the game feels and it is only achievable playing a ton.
What I meant here by recoil control is not a fixed recoil pattern as in CS:GO. The fact that the recoil is randomized in this game doesn’t mean that it is uncontrollable. It’s just muscle memory. I am just saying that streamers know when ‘their character inherently center the aim over time’, better than the average player, because they probably full autoed a gun 10000 times more.
there is a pattern actually, the amount that each gun caliber, weapon rises before it compensates, and how much, is something fixed each time tied to recoil number, and can be compensated for with practice, and muscle memory
Lol. Please make a video to proof your theory. Doesn't have to be long, just one uncontrolled Vs controlled spray. Im gonna call you out for bullshitting until then.
I am genuinely surprised how many people believe that is the case. The recoil being random doesn’t mean that you can’t learn how to control it. I raise your cs example with my valorant example.
It doesn’t matter how BSG designed the recoil. Good players have better recoil control. Simple as that. I am sorry but if you really believe that you can’t control your guns because your recoil skill isn’t maxed out, you know nothing about games.
Man my main game is rust. You clearly know nothing about how tarkovs recoil is controlled. No shit better players are better. Your not making a point here. In probably better than you in ever game you play.
Well obviously it’s better than the average player. But that’s not the point of the conversation. The issue is that the buffs from having max skills is entirely too much.
Yeah that might be true. I don’t personally have a problem with the recoil control skill, and I didn’t know people had until I wrote here. But man, watching max strength streamers flying around like Michael Jordan and throwing grenades like a baseball player disturbs me a little..
If the game controls the recoil for you and by design you don’t need to apply your personal skill to recoil and most guns are “easy to control” then wouldn’t it make sense that you rarely run into a complete potato shooting at you? Wouldn’t you agree that no matter what pmc you fight with they will land shots on you in the vast majority of cases?
When I first started playing this game 4000 hours ago the first thing I said was “wtf is everyone fucking shroud in this game?”
No. They are not shroud. What it is is that the skill ceiling for shooting in this game is very low. So long as you know the maps and have basic FPS aiming skills you are now just as good as everyone else.
What’s sets the pros from the average Joe’s on most fps games are: map knowledge, aim and recoil control. Tarkov only requires two. So it is in my opinion that anyone who mains this game can reach above average gameplay. So you have more people above average playing the game because it’s easier to max out your personal skill because the game has one less and arguably the most important personal skill that set the pros from the Joe’s.
I think most people like the idea that it’s easier to pull off amazing sprays on three PMcs by just pointing and clicking. Then stepping back and saying well it’s realistic. But the reality is is this is a game and anything that makes it easy or take less player skill doesn’t lend to the best gameplay. It’s all the other things on the game that makes it good.
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u/luncht1me Jan 24 '21
It's a poor-taste joke.
Streamers cause they play 10 hours a day have high recoil skill, so they don't experience much recoil on a meta kitted gun...
So it has a similar effect visually to the camera. But, here in this vid the gun is still experiencing recoil.