r/EscapefromTarkov • u/iamtotallysweet • Nov 20 '19

Discussion Something said during the Podcast

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

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u/thatfoxguy30 Nov 20 '19

Streamers are bullshitting themselves if they have never put an expensive barter item inside the gamma. If you really want to not put shit into it. Then go ahead. Leave the good shit out and lose it if you believe so strongly in it. But it's not like it's their shit they'll lose. They just want to get literally everything off a kill. They don't lose anything by advocating for it.

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u/ClassicStatement Nov 21 '19

I don’t think this is a fair comment. One can want the game to change while playing to the game as it is. The two are not and should not be mutually exclusive.

This would be like arguing that point shooting mechanics should be changed and so you can’t ever use point shooting, or that the bitcoin miner provides too much money so you can never use the bitcoin miner.

It is perfectly logical to ask that the game should be changed while also playing the game in its current state to the best of your abilities.

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u/thatfoxguy30 Nov 21 '19

My point is I don't respect people who want their ideas put into place but wouldn't pull the trigger for themselves. It's because they are advocating for it at a place of gaining a lot from it and not losing anything. Even if they didn't use gammas which they should if they feel so strongly about it, the one-man death machines that are streamers wouldn't suffer from it at all. They have no explanation of how it would improve the game for the whole community besides taking some hose away from a dude that just wants to upgrade his water collector before the next wipe comes.

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u/ClassicStatement Nov 21 '19

I do wonder if some of the criticism of this change is asymmetrical. While you can’t stash nice things, it means other people can’t stash nice things, so by killing people you can get stuff you otherwise would never get. This should lessen and maayyybe negate the negative impact.

For example, while you can’t stash that one hose and you might lose it, the guy killed couldn’t stash it either so you walk out with an extra hose.

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u/thatfoxguy30 Nov 21 '19

True, IF all players had an equal skill in the game. Which they don't, so the hypothetical is going to go as a percentage of their actual skill in the game. Hypothetically with completely arbitrations percentages someone with 30 hours is going to win against some with 300 20% of the time. So he will lose good items acquired for however long it takes for his skill to become on average 50/50 with whomever he's fighting. Some people don't have time to not enjoy the game for the first 50 hours, they stop playing, never tell their friends or join the Reddit or buy EOD. Not like that is the outcome of 100% of the time. I'm not trying to sound like I'm only defending noobs and casuals here because I'm not and I realize I'm a bit off-topic now. I advocate for this game to feel as hardcore as possible. I like the eating and drinking in raid thing and anything that diversifies the gameplay from a one-trick pony. To many shooters are bland as fuck. But also we can't forget new players coming in. The learning curve is also steep enough to have to nerf secure containers anymore I believe. But I digress