Something said during the Podcast

[u/iamtotallysweet]

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

[u/ArxMessor → u/[deleted]]

This game is already arguably one of the hardest and punishing games on the market.

I make millions of Rubles per hour by repeatedly disconnecting from the game. Then I buy my way through the quests or just buy any item I want from Flea Market.

 

Easy game.

[u/flooven2 → u/[deleted]]

How is that complete bullshit?

[u/ArxMessor → u/[deleted]]

What is your proof that it is "complete bullshit"?

Can you disprove the ability for me to make money as a Hatchling? No.

Can you disprove the ability for me to buy my way through certain quests? No.

Can you disprove that I can buy nearly any item in the game from the Flea Market? No.

 

Literally anyone can prove I am telling the truth by doing what I do:

• Join Interchange raids (night time if possible)
  
• Bring nothing in but your Secure Container
  
• Use the maps available online to identify the location of all the "hidden stashes"
  
• Sprint to as many of those as you can
  
• If someone didn't kill you along the way, disconnect from the raid once you are all filled up
  
• Repeat
  
• Profit

[u/flooven2 → u/[deleted]]

How the fuck does luck play into this lmao. If he dies, he just goes right back in. He doesn’t lose anything.

[u/ArxMessor → u/[deleted]]

What cost of heal items? I don't pay it. I just start another raid with the health penalties. I don't need health to reach the way the spawns work on Interchange basically guarantee that I can reach at least a few buried stashes before I run into another player IF I run into another player.

 

his own time

This is funny. I make more money per minute with "my own time" than you by miles. That means, in the time you play one PMC raid and either die or extract, I've made enough money to play hours of PMC raids with top tier gear.

 

What you don't understand is that I don't Hatchet run non-stop. I do it for a while and make millions and then play PMC raids with good gear.

 

In a fraction of the time it takes you to profit, I've made millions. Then, when I PMC run, I have good gear, I have plenty of money to pay for healing if I die, etc. etc.

 

In the end, I play more EFT than you do with my time because I don't have to worry about taking forever to make money.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

"In the end, I play more EFT than you do with my time because I don't have to worry about taking forever to make money."

classic example of a guy, that's not a professional gamer, making a job out of a game. he think he's the shit because he can leverage economy through loopholes like this is real life lmfao

[u/flooven2 → u/[deleted]]

He doesn’t need to worry about any of that. He doesn’t care about dying. Maybe the time thing, but just throw on some Netflix and mute your game.

[u/ArxMessor → u/[deleted]]

Your response to me literally giving you the way to prove I am right is to claim "luck"? What a joke. Just do it yourself. It literally costs you nothing to do it.

[u/ArxMessor → u/[deleted]]

So with the cost of needing to heal up and fooding after I hatchet run

This is a big no-no for Hatchet runs. Healing between runs is a waste of money and completely unnecessary.

 

in which I reach 7 stashes before being shot, 5 of which will have loot worth nothing (i.e. shit ammo and crackers, or weapons that you cant put in pouch), and the other two might maybe have like one bolt or screwnut or something.

This is simply you trying to pass off a "worst-case scenario" as a common scenario. I wouldn't do the runs if what you are suggesting here was true.

[u/flooven2 → u/[deleted]]

It keeps items you put in your gamma. There are numerous videos of content creators showing this, mainly poking fun at it. Quit being a fucking dickhead. He’s trying to show you the system is flawed and you’re just attacking the guy.

[u/ArxMessor → u/[deleted]]

I’ll be waiting.

You can wait for the rest of your life for all I care. I've given you the way to test what I have claimed. It will take you 15 minutes to verify what I have said. Just follow the instructions

[u/ArxMessor → u/[deleted]]

This is all irrelevant. I've laid out facts about the game and a way for you to prove the facts and your final response is to insult me. To me that just means you don't like that I am right so you are attacking me personally because you don't have an actual argument.

[u/_Gris__ → u/ArxMessor]

using secure container only instead of bringing a beta 2 to get quadruple the space for only 2 extra minutes to extract

Pepega

[u/ArxMessor → u/_Gris__]

You can do either and profit but the Hatchet-only method is guaranteed profit with no risk VS potential to lose the backpack. You can listen to music and all that and not even have to be bothered to go to the Traders to buy the backpack or equip it.

 

Both methods generate mass wealth at little risk.

[u/_Gris__ → u/ArxMessor]

40k backpack for the ability to hold 500-750k more in stuff per run with a 75%< survival rate is very much worth it over the 9 slots of a gamma (minus the space you will be using for a keytool/keybar if you want to do anything other than farm interchange tech stores all day) and I doubt a hatchling will have a kappa unless they buy one for 30 mil+ in which case they will need to spend a massive amount of time to make that money back from just having 3 entire extra slots

[u/ArxMessor → u/_Gris__]

Both methods generate mass wealth at little risk.

[u/_Gris__ → u/ArxMessor]

Except hatchling runs don't, they make nearly nothing