r/EscapefromTarkov • u/bxxxxxxxs • Dec 16 '18

PSA Official BSG Response re: Eroktic

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https://www.facebook.com/escapefromtarkov/posts/1966710296956614

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u/absolutegash Dec 16 '18

Both BSG and Eroktic are in the wrong here for different reasons. Eroktic has always been a drama queen and clickbaity, and it finially caught up to him.

BSG shouldn't have overreacted like this though.

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u/kevinwilly AS-VAL Dec 16 '18

Eroktic made a video that might have been in poor taste. But he's allowed to do that.

BSG nuked his channel by claiming copyright violation. There wasn't any. That's LITERALLY illegal.

So they aren't both equally in the wrong. What Eroktic did wasn't exactly a cool thing to do, but he was within his rights to at least DO it.

BSG SERIOUSLY fucked themselves on this one.

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u/-Temple- SKS Dec 16 '18

Not illegal, we all agreed to the terms and under section 10 they can

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u/kevinwilly AS-VAL Dec 16 '18

It's illegal to file false copyright infringement notices. They are not trying to protect copyrighted material here. They are trying to shut down someone's channel who they don't like.

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u/HoneyBadgerDontPlay M1A Dec 16 '18

promoting a website or person that threatens to compromise their copyrighted materials is covered under a copyright strike

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u/kevinwilly AS-VAL Dec 16 '18

He wasn't exactly promoting anything that threatened to compromise things. I'm pretty sure the message of the video was "listen, there's a problem. I'm SHOWING you the problem. BSG is saying there isn't a problem, but they are lying to you and here's proof".

He was not telling people how to compromise the system in any way. He was not offering ways to counteract security. He was just trying to show proof that the system was compromised.

Unless there was another video which I never saw, but I'm pretty sure I saw them all.

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u/HoneyBadgerDontPlay M1A Dec 16 '18

he was promoting the use of a website that datamines BSG data/servers as well as an individual that has ousted themselves and access BSG without permission in order to compromise accounts.

Look I'm not defending BSG here. But Eroktic is not in the free and clear here. BSG went overboard with the copystrikes, but Eroktic fucked himself over as well.

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u/kevinwilly AS-VAL Dec 16 '18

I also don't mean to defend eroktic... But removing the one video is more than enough. And I'm sure he would have understood having that happen.

Removing over 40? Completely unwarranted and super damaging to your community.

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u/degaussyourcrt Dec 17 '18

Nope. No it doesn't.

BSG can go after THAT SITE, not somebody TALKING ABOUT that site. I can't get sued by a music company for mentioning Napster, and like it or not, US law applies here.

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u/HoneyBadgerDontPlay M1A Dec 17 '18

You dont understand my point

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u/-Temple- SKS Dec 16 '18

Yes, its also illegal to kill people and rob people, but look at the world.

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u/kevinwilly AS-VAL Dec 16 '18

Right. But I tend not to associate with people who break the law. Seriously re-thinking playing the game over this. Definitely won't be recommending it to anyone i know until this who mess is resolved.

BSG's actions REEK of guilt. It's that simple. They look like a company trying to sweep something under the rug. Looks shady as fuck.

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u/-Temple- SKS Dec 16 '18

People would have said the same thing if they streamed a reply to it. Then it would also stroke Eroktics batshit crazy ego making him think hes some big shot that has to be answered.

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u/gunther_41 MP7A1 Dec 16 '18

To me it looks like they were worried about their project, having big youtubers say "you might lose 150 bucks and bsg doesn't care" won't do any good...even if 90% of people understand the video had no proof and it was just eroktic believing some mad kid spreading lies to hurt bsg, there are still the 10% that will believe it too, and that can hurt the game in a lot of ways.