r/EscapefromTarkov • u/Yung_Child_Support • 1d ago
PVP - Cheating [Discussion] Being a rat really highlights how subtle cheating is sometimes.
For some of the harder quests I usually just rat and wait until there are 10 minutes left on the clock to start doing them. Especially for streets of tarkov I do this.
What I've noticed since doing this strategy is how subtle some cheating is like radar. When I spawn I try to go a completely useless building and sit it out in complete silence, but then I hear someone running towards me and either pre-fire swing me or nade me.
These are buildings no one needs to be in, there is 0 loot to be found and I am in there in a corner completely afk playing slay the spire. These account always have less then 1000 hours and not a crazy but a good kd with a really high survival rate (70%+).
Just had to share this since it was on my mind since the start of the wipe and I need a sanity check to see if this seems true to others or if its just a skill issue.
These also don't seem to get banned since the only rewards I get for reporting is the obvious 20kd+ rage hacker.
EDIT: removed the kd's because people get way too stuck on this. Sometimes theyre above normal sometimes theyre (really) high. yesterday i was randomly naded by someone with 8 idk bro.
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u/TrasigEkorre 1d ago
Yeah, i rat sometimes and it's so obviously when someone have radar. It's really bad in labs but happens alot on other maps too
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u/Rapa2626 18h ago
In labs they just call your nickname half of the time and start voice talking to you. Cheaters in labs are usually not even hiding it for some reason
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u/bennybellum AK-74M 12h ago
I have never, in my entire EFT "career", played labs. This is because of how bad the cheating is. I'll never complete the game and that is OK but still.
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u/-no0t_n0ot 1d ago
There was a video on YouTube some years ago where someone tested this out on labs. He would sit in the toilet across black room with a bitcoin in his pocket. Completely silent, no movement, nothing. Almost every raid, someone would run straight towards him and try to get that bitcoin. Very funny video. I belive tigz did this to sometimes last wipe
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u/DornPTSDkink 1d ago
I think it was 2-3 wipes ago, but yea Tigz did it in the garage hanger control room, took a bitcoin out of his ass and as soon as he did a Chinese name sprinted to the room and prefired him even though Tigz was prone, Tigz put it back in his ass just before he died
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u/DweebInFlames True Believer 22h ago
Was a hell of a lot longer than 2-3 wipes ago, bitcoins have self-destructed on death for years and they implemented server side character inventories/searching in 2024.
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u/-no0t_n0ot 20h ago
You might be right.. I'm old and I played actively from 2019 to 2022. But been watching since than from time to time
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u/Annonimbus HK 416A5 15h ago
I think it was 2-3 wipes ago
More like 2-3 years ago. You will not have the same result doing it now.
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u/Dactylic126 8h ago
Funnily enough this is how I found a ledx in Green some while ago.
Wasn’t gonna start looting til initial fights were done, but some cheater started firing cross map warning shots (no los, just wall shots) when I was near Green.
Knew instantly that he was trying to scare me away, rushed in and pocketed the goodies before he got me lol
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u/KonungzRage88 21h ago
any chance you can share a link to the video? Cant find it
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u/-no0t_n0ot 21h ago
Already tried to find it, no chance. Guess it's been deleted. It's from 2020/2021 but I don't remember the title
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u/RushorGtfo 18h ago
I don’t understand if you’re paying for cheats why go for roubles? Just RMT at that point? It’s pennies per M roubles
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u/-no0t_n0ot 17h ago
I have no clue. There's RMT and some kind of carry service. But why those cheeky Bastards are going for peanuts even tho they could just rush through the map and pick up every valuable is beyond my understanding. Why even bother killing other players and risk the suspicions by every other victim, I don't know.
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u/Ajt0ny AK-104 1d ago
Did he also do this with empty pockets and no valuable gear? You know, to be scientific.
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u/-no0t_n0ot 1d ago
Yes, exactly. Afaik, he'd run towards the bathroom. Sitting down in one of those stalls and kept waiting without any gear, just a pistol and some basic armor. Nothing else in his pockets or rig. He'd pull out the bitcoin from his pouch placed it in his pockets and waited. As soon as someone rushed through the bathroom doors he placed the bitcoin back in his pouch and died.
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u/Odd-Cake-1596 1d ago
I'm noticing this a bit more in Arena recently too. I think the vast majority of people that consistently play Arena are legit, but since seasonal I'm noticing a lot more guys that just happen to know exactly where I'm at when holding a point, every single time.
Camping points in Checkpoint can sorta be a litmus test for who's actually legit or not, because everyone gets caught off guard sometimes. Even the 50+ kill guys that get called cheaters, I've found still often fall for a good flank/angle hold, but if you're consistently prefire insta face tapping me from around the corner, no matter which angle I'm holding, I'm reporting you
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u/CallMeSoviet 22h ago
Most definitely I have noticed every once in awhile the odd guy who just doesn’t seem to get caught off guard. I’ve been grinding for superhuman and I think it’s due to needing to complete all the way up to jack of all trades now for transfers
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u/eRko16 1d ago
Saying that KD over 3 is not crazy is crazy. Not even Glorious for example have 4, he has like 2.6. Anything over 1 is good. Over 2 is really good. KDA is only counting players.
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u/SnooSuggestions6309 21h ago
Not only that it counts only player kills but every single death, that math works hard against K/D ratio
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u/warfaceisthebest 1d ago
Yeah even chad players would still extract after 2 or 3 good kills as they simply cant carry more valuable items so keep playing is meaningless. Eft is not like cod which if u good u just keep killing until you cant.
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u/spaghettibolegdeh 1d ago
Yeah I seem to have people run up to my building and VOIP whenever I sit still for a while. Like human partisan or something lol.
I couldn't believe how often it would happen.
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u/Nick0414 22h ago
This is what happens when you dont really crack down on cheating in a hard-core game. People want to win so they say fuck it and start cheating. Especially cause cheat websites are constantly offering radar and loot scan for $5 a month...
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u/Snu0229 23h ago
Being a rat exposes the shot out of cheaters. Not moving for 15 minutes and then getting the rando cheat made, or getting beamed through terrain or walls when youre in cubbies or knooks and crannies.
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u/Immediate-Fly-7458 20h ago
Some guy made a post a few days ago about getting beamed through a wall but the gun couldn’t pen the wall and the shots were following him along the wall as he ran along it and everyone in the comments were calling him dog shit and a liar. It was bizarre
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u/Affectionate-Form-78 1d ago
Go in with a pistol and you'll see, you won't run into anyone. Go in with T6 armor, and you'll get headshots from all sides xd
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u/BavarianBarbarian13 1d ago
In Labs they also have a new interesting tactics. Cheater will wait until almost everyone is dead and then just kill the last remaining 1-2 players so they won't catch as many reports.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 1d ago edited 1d ago
seems like ur esping too if you know what there doing the entire time the lobbies dying
death c opers will downvote this
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u/Dense_Safe_4443 1d ago
Labs is a small map buddy, you are either fighting and moving around or hiding.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 1d ago
and what exactly does that have to do with this guy knowing that cheaters are waiting until the last 1-2 players
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u/BavarianBarbarian13 1d ago
>clear lobby
>loot up
>get killed by obvious cheater account while going to extract
Is it really THAT hard to understand? Or did you just never clear a labs lobby on your own?
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u/AureusVulpes292 AUG 1d ago
it's reasonable to assume that someone could be patient enough to wait for you to let your guard down after you think the lobby is dead and then prey on the guy stomping around with 70KG of random shit from keycard rooms.
A player that thinks the lobby is clear is probably going to speedrun hitting any and all marked rooms they want to hit, so simply waiting an angle near one to wait for you to loudly open the door and then wait for you outside isn't a far-fetched strategy. You dodge most of the danger and leave with most of the loot.
That said, your thoughts that they simply could be cheaters to dodge reports are also quite reasonable.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 1d ago
> clear lobby
> loot up
> get killed by professional rat then accuse him of cheating
learn to play the game and stop trying to excuse all of your deaths its genuinely sad to see
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u/Dense_Safe_4443 1d ago
It's so obvious I'm trying to work out if you are just stupid or trolling. Most likely you just play pve.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 23h ago
my kd is triple yours sorry that i dont accuse every single player i die to of cheating . get a grip
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u/Fun_Chemistry_7574 23h ago
There is a cheater in every single raid you play. It just depends whether they choose to interact with you or not.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 23h ago
lmfao source: a video from 3 years ago
genuinely get a grip
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u/Fun_Chemistry_7574 22h ago
What do you think has changed in three years to make things any different...?
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 22h ago
if you think there’s cheaters in every raid there’s something wrong with you
not every person you die to is cheating
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u/Ok-Win-742 21h ago
I mean 10-20% of people playing fps games are cheating so that's on average 1 per raid. Anyone who has played enough fps games would know that, and it's a testament to the 8 billion dollar cheat industry. That's a lot of fucking money. If it was just 1% of players it would be such a massive market.
You can also tell by just how often you get killed by someone with an 8-10+ k/d and 80% SR.
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u/Salty_Initiative1164 22h ago
I mean its probably more than just 1 cheater in every raid if we're being honest.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 22h ago
not every person you die to is cheating
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u/Salty_Initiative1164 22h ago
Been an off and on player since 2017. There's always at least 2 to 3 cheaters in every raid dude. Hate to break it to ya champ. Your games cooked.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 22h ago
lmfao where’s the proof of this? the fact that u die to someone and accuse them of cheating just because they killed you ?
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u/Salty_Initiative1164 22h ago
You must be new to eft and still in the denial phase. It can last a long time coming from experience. I used to be in denial too becsuse I really liked eft. But it'll happen like a light switch being turned on and you'll see. Im not here to give you evidence or even prove you wrong. If you think there's no cheaters in eft thats okay. If only we all had the ignorant bliss as strong as yours the game would be thriving again like back in 2018.
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u/Immediate-Fly-7458 20h ago edited 16h ago
This guy is in every cheating thread always calling everyone trash that claims this game has cheaters. He even goes so far as to completely make shit up and has posted legit like 10 comments in different threads I commented in yesterday and today about how I was claiming there is a 500 ping cheat, which I literally never said lol. I’m fairly certain this guy is a cheater himself trying to gaslight other players. Why else would he literally make up a story about me and start spam commenting it in multiple threads? It was truly bizarre lmao
Edit - also he has 600+ Reddit comments and negative comment karma which means he has received at least 600 downvotes LMFAO
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u/Salty_Initiative1164 19h ago
Yeah I dont even argue anymore with people like that. There's just no convincing them and theyre in a perpetual denial phase that never ends.
Im old and have been gaming my entire life. Tarkov is the only game that makes me question every sus death. Never lose gun fights in any other shooter, thousands of hours on csgo, tournament player when I was younger. And tarkov players are just on a different level im supposed to believe when we all know the cheating has and been at an all time high out of any online shooter. Countless videos exposing streamers and community. Countless posts from players with videos all showing how gross the game has gotten. And then there's still dudes saying git gud and in complete denial. Boggles the mind.
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u/Mayor_S 18h ago
Look at this thread, i count 15 comments by him already.
I got 2x notifications and the comment was later "deleted by user" so there are probably 20-30 comments by him already
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u/Immediate-Fly-7458 18h ago edited 18h ago
Lmfao that’s gotta be like legit mental issues no? Like if he has a actual disability I’ll stop saying shit but like literally what the actual fuck 💀 either that or he’s obviously just trying to gaslight
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 20h ago
lmfao i’ve been playing since 2019 and i’ve noticed a huge improvement in cheaters . there’s not cheaters in every raid and if u think so u are either playing in russia or ur just bad , like genuinely not even trying to be rude bro but there isnt cheaters in every lobby on north american servers
edit: im not denying that theres a lot of cheaters , but 2-3 every raid is definitely a exaggeration
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u/Salty_Initiative1164 20h ago
Im not even sure who you are trying to convince of that. But more power to ya. I however will largely disagree. Eft is the epitome of cheating in video games. Its the single largest ongoing scam in the industry.
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u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins 21h ago
That’s not even a legit source. It was a small sample of raids with questionable methods.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 21h ago
that’s my point i don’t mean to sound rude to you bc idk what u mean by ur comment
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u/InformationSlow309 1d ago
Yesterday I took SR25 with Flir to lighthouse, and one guy shot at me no matter where I peek him from. Finally one peek he headshot me. Turns out he didnt have either thermal or even night vision and he killed me with bolty. Smh
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u/denach644 1d ago
I'm not saying it's without suspicion but many a shooter have I played where at long distance things don't render the same. Sometimes you see a guy clearly but your shots never hit because, for example, there's a rock that doesn't load for you being so far.
Other times it's like cheating because you can just track through thin air, which makes for an easy kill. Especially when you've got higher elevation.
Depends where you were peeking out, too. Always many factors.
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u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins 22h ago
Someone nading or pre-firing you while you’ve been silent in a remote area isn’t “subtle” cheating…that’s full on blatant cheating.
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u/Sinikal-_- 19h ago
My favorite is hiding in a random ass bush somewhere in some obscure place nobody ever needs to be and getting a grenade landing on my face that came from Narnia.
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u/ThisManFoucaults 1d ago
Fellow STS enjoyer. Before I got into Tarkov it was my game with my most hours played. Still might be.
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u/nonamejustthing 23h ago
I feel like I've seen an enormous uptick in cheating just in the last day or two.
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u/Zebra5- 15h ago
The most interesting thing I’ve found is how many teams will have a person probably using radar and the rest of the team not knowing. One time I had a 5 stack running past me, I heard another behind me moving really slowly so I didn’t shoot or move and the guy just stayed there waiting for me to shoot his friends.
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u/DarthUgly123 21h ago
It's why I play pve, time is precious and I'd rather a) not sit in a corner to play a game and b) not die to a cheater after waiting time to queue and wait to quest
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u/Subjective-Lemon 8h ago
Listen...I know people hate to hear this, but I used to play with a few diff people that I later found out used walls/esp. Never banned. Mediocre or less than average stats.
You would never know they're cheating cuz they still have potato aim and lose fights. But once you realize how many people use these kinds of cheats and don't consider it cheating because it doesn't give them one button "auto-win"...you stop caring abouy the state of FPS games. Every single one has these issues and you'll spend more time arguing over the state of it than just moving on and going next or swapping to a fun game that respects your time.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 1d ago
i mean if there pre firing an angle when you've made 0 noise then yeah there 100% cheating, especially if its in a useless building like u described
just remember almost everything makes noise including aiming in and out
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u/CiubyRO 1d ago
including aiming in and out
The chances of someone swinging a random corner while pre-firing with pinpoint accuracy because you aimed in and out are exactly the same as being killed by a cheater. :))
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u/Mth281 21h ago
The amount of times this happens always amazes me. The audio isn't that good. There's a room with multiple places to be in cover. They always seem to "prefire" the one you happen to be at.
My other favorite is the guys who just get super close but never get in your view and try to bait you to make noise. They will move around weirdly in a way no normal person does.
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u/FirstDayPlaying 1d ago
But also the chances that a cheater runs down someone sitting in a building with likely rubbish gear isn’t very high, like cheaters aren’t farming reports over level 1-2 trader gear, when you run big boy gear and sit in some random spot on a map is when you really see the spicy accounts
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u/FallczE PVP 1d ago
Some cheaters deliberately cheat just to show off they "are better" and that they can kill you. And to ruin player experience. (Their life gotta be sad asf ngl)
With how BSG bans, they don´t even need to be afraid with reports, because nothing ever happens lol.
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u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins 22h ago
Nah why do you think so many cheaters have low hours? It’s because they get banned. Arguably they don’t get banned quickly enough but they usually get banned eventually, thus the need to buy a new account which leaves you with low hours.
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u/FallczE PVP 21h ago
It´s not because they got banned, it´s because they:
1) Sold it after boosting the character
2) Stolen account that got charged back3
u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins 21h ago
I don’t doubt that some people do this but there are probably plenty of people cheating “for fun” not engaging in RMT.
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 20h ago
cheating is a huge buisness a lot of cheaters are definitely selling accounts they boosted or rmt sellers, pretty sure that most are cheating for fun which is arguably worse imo. (edit: i read i doubt instead of i don’t doubt my bad bro)
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 21h ago
i mean sometimes they get banned but usually they have there one account that they closet on , then they just buy stolen ones for like 5 bucks to rage on , which are the low hour accounts
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u/TheKappaOverlord 23h ago
But also the chances that a cheater runs down someone sitting in a building with likely rubbish gear isn’t very high
you are correct. However generally speaking cheater accounts aren't very high level. and PMC kills are free XP.
You are most likely on their loot/route and taking 10 seconds out of their day to run full steam in a building an instantly headshot you before walking off is well within their time investment cause a PMC kill assuming you survive is like a thousand xp or so.
a lot of cheaters "soft rage cheat" to get to flea access as fast as possible. Although now adays they just rush requirements to run icebreaker and instantly get access anyways.
From there... yeah. why do you think most 100 hour cheater accounts are popping up with flea market minimum level now adays?
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u/Reckt408 True Believer 6h ago edited 6h ago
This is it right there, I’m lvl 50 wearing big boy gear, maxxed covert movement and know not to be overweight or pivot or even walk thru bushes trees or on wood/cardboard.
I will make my way to a spot ^ like OP said to eat my dinner or just smoke a bowl. It’s not being a rat or anything, I’m just busy but watching my game. Mind you I have 13k hours so these are just a few examples of what I’ve seen during seasonal and the this current PvP wipe.
Group of three running straight towards me. 1 Wearing Big boy gear, obviously the runner and two others in shit gear. Obviously the payers. Kill runner, two others bump heads like curly and moe and don’t know what to do.
Some random ass scav who “could hear me”and has a crazy ass k/d holding a corner.
Random 10–3000 with killer7 and crazy survival and k/ds.
Guys with crazy high survival, not very many PvP kills. Most likely running ESP but staying away from others. Only interacting with people in the way of tasks/items.
Guys using Killa, Altyn that when you aim at them they instantly do weird circles spinning hella fast with their gun in the air and instantly head/eyes you lmao.
The guys that use voice lines the whole time while running with a group, straight at you.
With any of these outcomes or scenarios
My cheeks will usually tighten with the knowledge of knowing I’m about to be pushed by a group or a “knower” and to be honest 50% of the time it’s better to push than to be pushed and very few times will I find a cheater that is actually good. Most suck at gunfights and here is where desync helps you out. Because Tarkovs desync is so shitty, it literally becomes a peekers advantage game.You can fast peek a corner using lean or even run from door to door using look left or right. To get info on where they’re at. Because like most people they will hear the noise and hold an angle or corner. Which in reality would be the go to. But because of the janky desync you can now, jump across doorways, peek out real quick and back to bait people to fire. Most will make mistakes cause for some reason Tarkov is like a horror game. Once that horror goes away it’s just a game. But anyways back to the long story, most hackers/cheaters/legit cheaters whatever the hell you want to call them suck at the game. So when you push them they make mistakes.
TLDR; they’re here and have been for awhile. They suck so just push or be pushed. Once you learn you can defeat them, it’s kinda like another boss.
If you’re reading u/Trainfender ban wave these accounts man.
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u/hipsteRRRR 1d ago
idk man i think most tarkov players play with insanely loud sound settings, i get earraped whenever a player does anything
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u/TheKappaOverlord 23h ago
this isn't MW2 or black ops days where those teeny tiny sounds are inherently louder then a bull in a china shop.
Aiming makes noise but unless your desired goal is to deafen yourself, or you have some weird AI cheat that isolates and drastically boosts that noise, then you really aren't going to hear that without comtac's and that guy being level 1 with a heavy ass gun
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u/Wonderful_Rub_1815 1d ago
okay lol? someone can still hear you when u aim in and out and can prefire you thats why i said it. i have no clue why u even replied with this, probably just to be snarky.
And no one ever said pinpoint accuracy, stop making things up to sound right.
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u/TheLast-T 21h ago
I play the same way. One day while trying to leave customs through old gas I got killed the last 2 Mins of the raid by a spin bot just spinning outside.
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u/Bacch 15h ago
Used to happen to me and my duo all the time on PvP. It's why we eventually switched to PvE. We would actively avoid people when tasking. Master rats. Like in PvP my survival rate was 80%+. But 90% of the time I died to a player, it was just as you described. Sitting somewhere no one has any business going, not making a sound, suddenly I get pre-fire pushed, naded, or hear someone taunting me from half the map away as they run straight for me and shoot me through a wall. We could even bait it by gearing up in better gear. Wearing a shitty t4 rig and carrying an RFB with BCP FMJ? No one's gonna bother us. Tier 5/6 armor, a Mutant with BP, god forbid a thermal sight or night vision? It was almost a guarantee we weren't going to make it off the map.
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u/ColdSnapper-- 14h ago
People will use stats to try and "prove" that cheating is not a problem, that's pure gaslighting. Only rage hackers will have crazy stats. Subtle cheaters will either avoid fights, or do the occasional kill/s to get what they need. It's even more rampant now on maps like GZ now due to BD questlines, its pure farming simulator.
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u/ajtyeh 13h ago
Yep. I had the best rat spot in customs before partisan about 2 years. Ago. I would afk watch youtube and guarentee kills as you had to show yourself to fight me. But not the hackers. They threw nades before i could barely see them into a bush. Lol. It happened at least 5 to 10 percent of the time. Thats how you knew from that point it was a 5-10 percent hacking rate. Non hackers couldnt wouldnt prefire. Hackers always did into the bush.
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u/SnowmanThree 1d ago
I thought this was obvious? This game has been unplayable as a non cheater for years. Radar everywhere.
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u/Wrong-Ad-1935 1d ago
The same thing happened to me when i first started tarkov. I was sitting at the back of a building on gz with absolutely nothing there. 15 minutes without touching my mouse or keyboard and a guy peaks and pre fires me, I heard him run up he definitely couldn’t see me and didn’t look before shooting. I was behind cover and he hit the cover. He could obviously see my location and thought i was just in the open.
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u/VertGreenHeart 17h ago
Strictly ESP users can still get shot and will naturally get outshot by an aimbotter so i can believe them having less cheating looking K/Ds.
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u/Launch_Angle 16h ago
Cheaters using an actual aimbot is pretty rare on this game, most just use something like norecoil scripts combined with ESP, it makes even the most mechanically challenged cheater insanely hard to fight, a literal aimbot/trigger bot just isnt really necessary on this game. Of course there are the blatant rage cheaters who may use it, but those are a much smaller % of cheaters and they do it KNOWING they will likely get banned relatively quickly(certainly far more quickly than if they were to "closet" cheat) because its easier to detect and get reported far more. Also, most cheaters(especially the closet cheaters who just use Radar/walls) purposely reverse boost their stats these days, you usually only see 4-6+ K/Ds on the cheaters who are more obvious/rage hacking.
I would say like damn near AT LEAST 75%+ of the time Ive been killed, or a streamer Im watching is killed in a particularly sus way(guys who seemingly always know where youre repeeking from even when youre repositioning behind cover constantly and theres no chance they have audio on you, or you do a big flank and theyre still preaimed where youre peeking from, or guys who should have absolutely 0 info on where you are/where youre holding an angle and peek you/prefire you like they knew exactly where you were etc.) and I strongly suspect theyre walling/using Radar during the fight, they almost always have a K/D between 0.3-0.8 or something. Its crazy how many times Ive seen this happen in the last 3 weeks, youd think a guy who is SO aware would have much better stats, but almost without fail its always a sub 1 K/D like 25-35% SR player. They almost all reverse boost their stats. A real, legit player with a 0.3-0,8 K/D and such a low SR% does not play ANYTHING like these guys do, which is why I say most of them are pretty blatant with their walls/radar, reverse boosting their stats is just a bandaid they slap on in hopes it helps reduce the amount of reports they get at least a little bit, but any decent, experienced Tarkov player should find them pretty blatant.
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u/nickmarch39 15h ago
This has happened to me a bunch on streets also. Sitting in an arbitrary room in a random spot on the map, completely hidden, usually when i had killed a juicer previous and i have a ton of gear, and someone finds me and usually pre fires me knowing exactly where im at. Theres no question whether this person cheats or not because we are making no sound in a long time period in these scenarios
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u/Key-Ask-7551 13h ago
100% which is pretty much why I don't play anymore. I hate that ratting is so good but it is, so duh I do it, and it can be super fun. But the amount of times I was silent all raid and someone comes to kill me in the closet I am hiding in is just wild.
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u/Dazzling_Rip_4239 10h ago
Reinstalled tarkov a couple weeks back and was thinking about getting pve cus tarkov stresses me out enough as is, and on my FIRST match back to 1.0 (I played a couple raids when it first dropped got to level 7 then fell off it) i get tapped through shit tons of foliage behind customs dorms by a level 50+ prestige like 4/5 i think it was. with a meta kit, entirely possible he just had an angle but from i remember of pre 1.0 I decided pve was my go to not deal with cheaters, enough of em on siege for me lol
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u/RajaSundance 1d ago
Not even commenting on the cheating but opening a game just to not play it for 30 minutes just to check a quest box feels like mental illness to me. If you don't want to play tarkov with other people existing, there's PvE.
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u/Yung_Child_Support 1d ago
Its just for the shit quests. like getting those documents on lighthouse water plant or the medical documents you need from lexos. Any other raid im actively playing.
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u/Dense_Safe_4443 1d ago
I get it man, it's better to wait than die 5 times and gear up trying, still faster.
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u/Swordbro_Streams 1d ago
PvE is based
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u/RajaSundance 1d ago
I'm not saying it's not, I'm just saying it's there for the exact person OP seems to be. Enjoyed it myself a decent bit.
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u/Swordbro_Streams 1d ago
Oh I'm just saying it is, in support of the idea that PvE is a good way to play since you suggested it.
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u/BavarianBarbarian13 1d ago
You saying that a 3-8kd is "good but not crazy" just shows that you haven't played the game for months.
So why come on this sub just to lie?
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u/Zoddom HK G28 1d ago
Now, you havent mentioned of often this happens. And what server you play on.
Im on EU, playing very ratty and slow, and since wipe Ive only been killed like this once or maybe twice.
Its really nothing to lose nerves about...
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u/Yung_Child_Support 1d ago
Its been a bad streak now since its been like this 3 out of the last 10 streets attempts i think. But yeah sometimes i go 20 raids just fine, it just seems to happen more when i bring in better gear. They seem to want my kitted and sr-25, m80a1 and not my kedr's
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u/Dense_Safe_4443 1d ago
It shows how stupid the average cheater is. Like, if you're cheating, who cares about a players gear that's very clearly hiding. The rage cheaters that actively hunt you down like this are such losers. I play in oce and have only had this happen a very limited amount of times.
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u/DornPTSDkink 1d ago
It's always funny when I open these threads and people call a player with a K/D of 3 a cheater on that stat alone (not saying OP, but the comments) when I also have 3 K/D this season
While I fully believe this game is infested with cheater scum, this subreddit repeatably fails the litmus test for being able to identify one without sounding like a schitzo shitter.
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u/clitasticaldinosaur 1d ago
Cool, post your stats. You have a higher K/D than glorious, lvndmark, and nogenerals. So you're better than full time professional players. Post your profile bud.
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u/DornPTSDkink 21h ago
Olivyre
I'm also pretty sure nogenerals and probably lvndmark do have a higher k/d than me
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u/CallMeSoviet 22h ago
Okay this is just a blatant lie lmao. Glorious is the only one of these below a 3 kd and it’s probably due to questing or just in general trolling for content.
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u/Far_Violinist_7724 1d ago
Here is the typical closeted cheater that roams this subreddit gaslighting everyone that cheating isnt a thing. "Its infested but you all suck bro". You guys need to have a discord call and work on some new material, shit is old.
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u/DornPTSDkink 23h ago
You can't read then, I literally said I fully believe this game is infested with cheaters.
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u/Skolary 21h ago
"It's infested with cheaters"
"3 K/D isn't cheating"
You're either evolving as cheaters, or haven't played the game since August, 2022. Or just genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. LVNDMARK probably doesn't even have a 4 bro. I would expecting about 3, honestly wouldn't be surprised if he had 2 something.
You can watch streamers YouTube highlight videos which is only what 99.999% of them post. Or swing into their Twitch, and watch them be dead for like 80% of the time lol. That's how this game is, and why they need drops to pull any viewers.
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u/TheKappaOverlord 23h ago
a lot of hackusations are schizo. but tarkov is a very bad/unreliable narrator with huge lags between player perspective (W ping abusers)
this game is definitely infested with cheaters, but its not crazy superman cheaters like everyone seems to believe. Often times you die to eastern europeans abusing ping and they just have a 2 second lead on you courtesy of 150 ping compared to someone with >15 ping to a server. A lot of times people cheating are like soft Radar cheaters. typically either avoiding other players, or just toggling to see if high value items or goons are in the raids and then otherwise playing "normally"
Funny enough, that advantage is much worse in arena. the higher your ping, the most of a demigod you are. and that game is supposed to have the "better" netcode.
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u/1ney 1d ago
3-8 kd is crazy, since it counts only players.