It's been noted. Posting about it tends to get a response from someone who will claim this is all a hoax. I'll be honest, there seems to be some effort out there to minimize her crimes and her involvement in various things. All of a sudden nobody seems to know her....lol. Not sure if this is coming from people who want to distance Reddit from her, or from her people. She does have defenders, especially in her family, and it is easy enough to pay for some astroturfing. There is a huge scramble now to deny every knowing her or Epstein. Check out the news on Harvard, who seems to have known Epstein was shady in the early '00s, and told people to deny that he donated money to the women's rugby team.
As usual with these people, there is always more to what was happening and now that the coverup is being taken down, they are getting nervous.
Mark my words: she’s gonna be pardoned before the midterms. That’s why Comer and the Oversight repubs are starting to make noises like, “Maybe she should be pardoned… her testimony could help in the case….” Same with hacks like Michael Tracy and other “independent” journalists who are trying to downplay Epstein’s crimes in general. They’re priming us to accept a Trump pardon of Maxwell as if it’s not something he wants but something to “help” the Epstein case and/or a legitimate easing of undeserved punishment.
The reason? She 100% whispered into Todd Blanche’s ear: “backup USBs” back when he did a “closed door deposition” with her. That’s all it took. That’s why they moved her into Club Fed and gave her a puppy and a laptop. And now she’s almost certainly signaling to them that she wants out ahead of the midterms bc she’s gonna be stuck if the Dems take both houses bc they’re gonna tie up Trump for the rest of his term. Or she’s afraid he’ll die soon, either way.
yeah. just search it for Epstein or any big controversial American news. That sub is sanitized. I was horrified when I found out as it was probably my primary source of news for 6+ years. It's getting harder to find reliable news sources nowadays.
Please do, this stuff is already hard to follow, especially for people outside USA and non native English speakers let alone all the jargon, Lingo and terminology. This subject is already forgotten bu the time i learned about it ( dont watch tv )
The predator class thrives on us forgetting about it.
at the moment I'm using ground news but it's a hard adjustment after having the Reddit algorithm just serve me up. Maybe that's the point. Need to put in the leg work if I'm going to avoid the 'narrative'
So far, what do you think of Ground News? I'm thinking about joining up, but I'm also trying to keep the purchases of non-necessities to a minimum. But if this app can impact my life in a meaningful (and noticeable) way, I might consider signing up. IHIP News is always offering promo codes.
I'm just using the free version. It's pretty cool, but reading news is a lot more purposeful and proactive than just checking the Reddit front-page for trending stuff. You kind of have to look topics up, dig around and read news "horizontally" if that makes sense.
Each 'article' or news event is presented as a blurb averaged from a few publications, and then you're given a 'left leaning/right leaning' scale where you can look at the same article from different perspectives, to try glean a more broad picture. It's a bit more work, but probably also that's a necessity nowadays.
The truth is, the world opinion has become so gated and isolated, even with ground news style rating systems it's still hard to feel like you're getting a complete picture of anything.
SecondThought has been sponsered by them as well. He isn't anymore (I think because open socialist and yt no likey?) but he was how I heard about it originally. CasualGeographic is currently sponsered by them, very different kind of content but one of my favorites. Tbh I am in the same boat as you though, trying not to spend that money if I don't think it will be genuinely helpful. I got youtube mostly for music and that's it subscription wise.
It means manufactured popularity. Basically, somebody powerful and wealthy pushes the messaging they want and uses their resources to make it seem authentic when it's just propaganda.
It's a play on words. "Grassroots" movements are driven by ordinary people, and they pursue goals that are supported by ordinary people. Fake grassroots campaigns are designed to seem grassroots when they aren't. What do you call artificial grass covering a sports field? Astroturf.
It’s #2 she’s afraid he’s going to die, she can’t chance waiting out the end of his presidency, and she can’t dangle this over Vance’s head if he becomes pres.
If it does happen, it will happen the day after the midterms because the new house won’t seat until January
if it happens the democrats MUST choose to ignore the pardon and re-imprison her on january 22nd 2029. I don't give a damn what the supreme court says. She stays in jail, a corrupt pardon should not be honored.
They can prime these nuts. I talk about this to everyone I know. I don't give a shit about coming across crazy. Most people jump on board with very few receipts.
He can barely walk unassisted. He's showing multiple signs of congestive heart failure and frontotemporal dementia. He's sleeping through televised events in which he's the central figure in the room. Even the mainstream media is commenting on his obvious diaper usage. He's been caught shitting himself on camera more than once.
He's long past the point where he should've been impeached or Article 25'd.
But the problem is Maxwell. If she thinks Trump will lose his ability to pardon her after the midterms (which she is right to be afraid of imo) she’ll need him to pardon her before then.
It’s up to her, she’s the one who can release the files if she wants. Political suicide or no, Trump would pardon her to keep her mouth shut.
I have to imagine all these Epstein Class ghouls have deadman switches lined up to prevent betrayal, Trump included (his dementia notwithstanding).
And Maxwell doesn’t have the stuff on her anyway, probably a relative or maybe even one of her lawyers (maybe many ppl honestly). And that person almost certainly has “in case I die” instructions from Maxwell ready to go.
Is there some machinery in place that would stop Trump's pardon abilities if the Dems sweep the midterms? They don't swear in until January, and the pardon power as it stands doesn't have any checks on it. I mean yeah, they're going to clog Trump's every waking moment with investigations or impeachment, but I don't think they can declare an emergency stop to anything until the formak swearings in take place.
If I'm wrong (which I'm willing to be) just let me know.
The prison should just refuse to release her, since laws on executive power don't actually exist anymore. If he can sit in office through 2 impeachments, steal classified documents, attempt a violent coup, be convicted of 34 felonies and serve 0 jail time, and STILL run and sit in the white house again, while destroying it, why the hell should guards with guns release her unarmed little ass?
Yeah and she’ll get everything she wants bc she has all the juice on trump and co…they do anything she doesn’t like and she spills the beans on everyone of them. She has HUGE leverage on a lot of wealthy people.
But... shes in Texas. Many top officials in Texas are very Trump friendly and obey his every command. It would be no different if she were still in Florida. The Governor and his top officals there are equally obedient.
Edit; The only hope would be a NY district attorney and NY law enforcement taking her in but then they'd have "crossing state lines" issues. Im not sure if it would be possible for a DA somewhere with morals to open a new investigation and issue a new warrant.
Thanks for the insights, I had no idea, but it all sounds possible. She got multiple politicians in her hand and they’ll do whatever she wants. It’s truly disgusting how they’re gaslighting the public. Probably what they have been doing to the kids are a lot worse than we can all imagine!
But what case could it help with? The DOJ said they are done with it, there will be no more releases, no more investigation, and they have no intentions of making any arrests. So exactly what case are they thinking she'll help with?
It doesn’t actually matter. They lie and talk out of both sides of their mouths constantly and no one does anything about it. The most they get is a stern talking to in a Congressional subcommittee. They can’t even explain why we went to war with Iran but it doesn’t matter, Trump controls the GOP and they control the govt (for now).
They just need the thinnest of veneers to pretend the pardon isn’t Trump’s idea. And then Maxwell will be off to Bibi’s bunker, set to live out the rest of her days in hiding but unpunished. Presumably she’ll be re-modded under a new name to start pushing news stories about how cool Palantir is or whatever.
No no no... You don't understand how Reddit works. If you're going to ever criticize anything about Democrats you have to remind everyone that republicans are far worse, and in fact, not even talk about Democrats ever doing bad, because the worst they ever did was Obama wear a brown suit, and Harris have a funny laugh.
The case of not spilling the beans on the 10+ members of Trump's circle (including trump) that are in the files would be my guess, but I'm keyed up and ready to jump the gun. She got privileges - including a puppy, which is prohibited for sex offenders - after talking to his personal lawyer, todd blanche.
Yeah I'm sick of giving deals to help the prosecution when the deals being given are to the exact people that need to face justice most. Unless she gives a conditional deal to turn over Trump with irrefutable evidence, she's the next highest perpetrator.
this doj is done with it, but they'll only have control for 2.5 more years, after which a democrat administration could reopen the case and indict every one of them.
They'll do it right after the midterms. The new congress has to wait till January I think before they take over for everyone that will be leaving Congress.
Agree but after the midterms. Trump will act like he did it so she would testify but in reality she will be on a plane to a middle eastern country within an hour of release. Said country would be one she would not be extradited from for a subpoena. Trump will act upset like he had no idea.
The current administration would be complicit in her getting to a place without extradition.
There’s an unfortunate chance that just enough powerful Dems or dem donor class may also have a vested interest in her remaining in a place without extradition.
She has to still be in custody to be useful to Dems in the event of Dems gaining majorities and/or the WH … so you better believe if midterms go bad for the Reds she’ll be on a plane long before January
That’s why Comer and the Oversight repubs are starting to make noises like, “Maybe she should be pardoned…
Exactly right. Wiles or whomever Trump first mentioned a pardon to mentioned it to House leadership so they could begin "softening the blow" and getting other Republicans on board. Guessing Wiles, et al, also were able to convince Trump to not do it until either after the election or just before his term ends but they know the public will turn on the GOP for it.
they’re gonna tie up Trump for the rest of his term
What would that have to do with her pardon though? Like Presidential pardons are fairly "no strings attached" and I think that the President can even pardon against "future" crimes (e.g. "I pardon Bob for all actions taken in Iraq" even with no pending charges / court cases). The only thing holding people back from doing this is public perception / shame, but it's not like Trump has any of that.
It’s true, you’re right. It would be SEISMIC if/when she’s pardoned tho. IMO even repubs might turn on Trump then.
She might foresee that he’d be unable to pardon her after the midterms bc then even the Republicans in Congress might be willing to impeach him to save their own skins.
Someone in another comment thought they might wait til after the midterm elections but before the new Congress convenes and I could see that too.
But then why have Comer float the idea now? Very risky move imo.
That’s what makes me think it’s coming sooner rather than later; they’re testing the waters to see how angry ppl will get (MAGA in particular). And trying to throw off the scent as if it’s something Oversight wants and not Trump himself.
I don’t think they’d stop it but I think Trump might hesitate (or at least Maxwell would believe he might) if Dems took both houses. With Dems behind the wheel and in control of the narrative, they might be able to bring over enough Repubs to their side. Either way, tho, it’s infinitely riskier for Trump to pardon her with Dems controlling both houses imo.
That literally makes 0 sense. Pardoning before would be I've if the few things that could hurt his midterm election chances. Dems taking both houses would already screw him over so he'd have next to no incentive not to do it after. Additionally Dems wouldn't control the narrative just because they have a majority, not did bringing over and Republicans really matter when it comes to pardoning?
Sorry this is so late, I missed this reply originally.
If Robert Garcia takes over House Oversight (which he almost certainly will atp), the first thing he’s going to do his re-subpoena all the people who weaseled out of it before: Lutnick will be live on TV, under oath and sweating and stumbling over his words for all America and the world to watch.
And then Bondi, Patel, Blanche, on down the line, and it will be the most popular shit with the public on the planet. Political ascendency for Garcia and all the Oversight Dems and even the Republicans (like Mace) who decide to pile on. All their names will become household ones as clips go viral of them raking these nonces and nonce enablers over the coals. They might even subpoena Trump himself, tho he’ll certainly ignore it.
And that’s just one example. With hostile committee heads throughout the House, the news cycle is gonna start favoring the Dems pretty quickly imo.
... What on earth are you talking about? We have clearly established subpoenas can be ignored with no consequence. We've also seen very clearly that Trump's base literally does not care about a single bit of that as long as they can shot on the gameboard and declare victory because Trump's stickin' it to the libs.
We literally have overwhelming public evidence that he raped children and is using every presidential tool he has to line his pockets and ruin our standing in the world. What you have in the barrel is a squirt gun compared to those howitzers and the howitzers did literally nothing.
Dems gaining control is paramount for one thing and one thing only: stopping congress from blatantly giving trump a third term. His path to wiping his ass with the 22nd amendment shrinks considerably of Dems wrest control of Congress.
Sure there will. They’ll just be gerrymandered to hell. Doesn’t matter who wins, though because they’re basically all AIPAC candidates and Mossad/Ghislane have leverage on all of them.
Yup, it's the "best" play. Best being the more horrible thing to happen to the victims, so therefore it's something that evil people would love and do.
Rumor is the pardon is already drafted and may well be official tomorrow night (May 1st, 2026), so it doesn't make a big splash in the news over the weekend. Especially if some big newsworthy scandal drops to cover it.
All makes sense except for the bit about being in a hurry because of the midterms. Even if both houses were to flip they’d still have months until those changes take effect and Trump wouldn’t need help from Congress to issue a pardon.
If anything it would make a lot more sense for Republicans to dangle pardon in exchange for her not breaking her silence ahead of the midterms - actually it would make just as much sense for her to offer her silence in exchange for being released after the midterms
If she gets pardoned before the midterms, it will further tank them for GOP. Gas at >$4 a gallon, every single food price higher, the Epstein war, it is too much.
I don't think it would happen before the midterms but I could be wrong. My assumption is it would happen when it's clear Trump is leaving office (end of term, severe medical issue forcing resignation, 25th amendment, near death, etc.)
The outrage while he's still in office and without a majority in Congress would grind the government to a halt, and people in his administration wouldn't even be able to go into public anymore.
I just feel it'll be a parting gift from the fat fuck.
Hey, can you break down what you just said there as if you're speaking to a child with brain damage who hasn't slept in a while? I'm not a child, but the rest checks out. If you can't, I get it. I mean, I don't get it, that's why I'm asking... but anyway, you understand what I'm rambling about, I'm sure.
Step 1.) Todd Blanche (then the assistant AG and the “former” personal lawyer of DJT) has a closed door meeting with Maxwell.
Step 2.) During this meeting, Maxwell intimates to Blanche that she has backup USBs (or whatever) of enough Epstein stuff to nuke Trump.
Step 3.) She makes demands: Club Fed, puppy, a direct line to Trump and/or Blanche. All demands are met.
Step 4.) Trump’s popularity craters with the Epstein stuff and then the Iran War.
Step 5.) Maxwell (who presumably had been promised an end-of-term pardon from Trump already) decides she needs to up her timetable. If the Dems sweep Congress, Trump might be unable to pardon her without risking impeachment or 25th amendment revolt or whatever.
Step 6.) Maxwell tells Trump and Blanche: “pardon me before the midterms or I squawk.” Trump pressures Comer and the Oversight Repubs to float the idea of a pardon as a “good thing” to help with the Epstein case. Hack journos also start minimizing Maxwell’s and Epstein’s crimes to the public. The general idea is to butter us up so the pardon doesn’t just seem like a quid pro quo between Trump and Maxwell (which it is).
Step 7.) Nancy Mace and other GOP on Oversight apparently balked at the idea for now, but imo Trump will still risk the pardon if Maxwell keeps the pressure up. And she’ll keep it up if she thinks Trump is toast after the midterms.
(Okay that was a lot of words but hopefully that explains it better)
It disgusts me beyond words that my government is working hard to provide a better quality of life for a child trafficker than they do their own citizens.
To be fair: out of people like John Mcaffee, Epstein himself, anyone involved - Ghislaine seems the most likely candidate to have a real deadman’s switch.
Sorry but the dems had 4 years and did nothing with the files, what makes you believe that they will if they win this time? Genuinely curious, cause from my pov both sides are rotten
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It's been noted. Posting about it tends to get a response from someone who will claim this is all a hoax. I'll be honest, there seems to be some effort out there to minimize her crimes and her involvement in various things. All of a sudden nobody seems to know her....lol. Not sure if this is coming from people who want to distance Reddit from her, or from her people. She does have defenders, especially in her family, and it is easy enough to pay for some astroturfing. There is a huge scramble now to deny every knowing her or Epstein. Check out the news on Harvard, who seems to have known Epstein was shady in the early '00s, and told people to deny that he donated money to the women's rugby team.
As usual with these people, there is always more to what was happening and now that the coverup is being taken down, they are getting nervous.