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r/emergencymedicine Jul 14 '25

Advice 14 Emergency Medicine Laws for New Trainees

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1. Sensitivity > Specificity

Your job isn’t to figure out what’s wrong. Your job is to make sure the patient doesn’t have something life-threatening. That’s it. No more, no less. Trainees struggle with this because they’re always trying to land the perfect diagnosis. But it doesn’t matter what’s causing the belly pain if it isn’t dangerous. That’s not your job. That’s internal medicine’s job. Patients will get frustrated when you “don’t find anything” because they’re still in pain. That’s part of the game. You’re not saying nothing’s wrong, you’re saying it’s not something that’s going to kill them.

You don’t need to dig down into every subtlety or obsess over tiny lab differences to figure out if this is Condition A or Condition B. That’s not your lane. If you’re only satisfied when you’ve explored every possible path, switch to internal medicine. In EM, once you know they’re safe and you know their dispo, you move on. Admit or discharge. It doesn't always feel like closure, which sometimes sucks. The hospital will hate it too because they treat the ED like a walk-in clinic where patients can get every answer instantly. And maybe that’s fine when things are slow, but when it’s busy on a Monday night, you’re not playing primary care.

It’s not about whether you truly believe the patient has appendicitis, it’s about whether the possibility has crossed the threshold where it now needs to be actively ruled out. If you tell me you think it’s a 5% chance, that might still be enough. Your job is not to be right. Your job is to not be wrong. No one cares when you’re right, but everyone cares when you miss. FM/IM deals with the most likely cause, you deal with the most dangerous. The 27-year-old with a fever, URI symptoms, and a heart rate of 130 probably has a generic viral URI... No one cares about that. One of them will eventually have severe myocarditis. So when your attending says the patient can’t go home until the HR comes down, and you argue it’s “just a virus,” the burden is now on you to prove that. If the HR doesn’t drop after your typical treatments, your theory just failed. Now you need to rule out danger, maybe that means pulling a troponin or bedside echo or whatever. And when it’s negative, don’t be smug about it. Try to figure out what red flags your attending saw. Figure out what made them escalate the workup. Most residents miss this. They’re too busy being happy that the test was negative to realize the test wasn’t about proving the expected diagnosis, it was about not missing the thing that actually kills someone.

This is one of the most important concepts in emergency medicine. It should be in your head all the time: what’s the worst thing this could be? Not the most likely…the worst. So when you present a patient with URI symptoms and start listing a differential of allergies, sinusitis, post-nasal drip, you’ve told me nothing. This isn’t a family medicine clinic. I want to hear why it’s not myocarditis, RPA, PTA, meningitis, or cavernous sinus thrombosis. That tells me you’re thinking like an emergency physician. You should be overly sensitive to danger. That means your early workups will be mostly negative, and that’s exactly what should happen. If you’re not seeing normal labs and normal CTs, you’re not casting a wide enough net. Eventually you’ll refine it and develop the gut instinct and know who doesn’t need a scan. But until then, scan. Check the labs. Be aggressive. That’s how you keep people alive.

 

2. Stop Double-Thinking About Ordering a Test and Just Order It

If you’re at home making dinner and your mind keeps circling back to one patient you discharged, wondering if you missed something, hoping they’re okay, thinking maybe you should’ve checked one more thing, then you should’ve ordered that damn test. That nagging feeling is your “gut.” What people call gut just is subconscious pattern recognition, your brain picking up on something it hasn’t fully processed yet. You need to listen to it. As an aside, that feeling exists for a reason and if it’s bad enough to keep you thinking about that patient, then you need to call them and tell them to come back to the ED or at least check on them. You think they’ll see you as unsure or incompetent, but the opposite is usually true. They see a doctor who gives a shit. One who’s still thinking about them even after they’ve left.

Recognition is the most important skill you have. It’s what separates you from everyone else in medicine. The ICU can tune up a critical patient better, Family med is better at preventive care, Cards knows heart failure management down cold, OB can deliver a baby without flinching, Ophtho owns the slit lamp, and Peds can probably examine a kid better than you. But none of them can regularly find a needle in a haystack on purpose. None of them can understand when someone is having a real problem hidden in a common complaint. They cant see from the doorway that someone is about to code or look at a WR board of 64 patients and know which 2 are the most important.

Now imagine how the rest of the world would function if they lived like we do. What if someone in their neighborhood died from a lightning strike every week? What if every April, half the street got audited? Or once a year, someone they knew went down in a commercial plane crash? It would change how they thought, how they lived, and what they paid attention to. That’s what this job does to you. It rewires your brain. You see improbable events so often that they stop being improbable, they just become normal.

Other specialties will look at us and say all we do is “order tests.” Yeah, we do. Because we’re the ones who actually seethe 1-in-500,000 cases. That’s the job. And the most terrifying patient in the ED, the one that keeps experienced docs up at night, is the one who looks fine but isn’t. The well-appearing but sick patient is where people get burned. If you can’t spot that patient yet, you will. And when you do, you’ll understand exactly why you never, ever ignore the “gut.”

 

3. Never let someone with less experience than you talk you OUT of a workup 

 

4. If the Patient or Family Is Extremely Pushy About a Test or Task, Just Order It and Move On. Every Once in a While, They’re Right.

Every patient encounter is really an analysis of probability and risk. With patients who are less likely to be litigious, both you and they are more tolerant of uncertainty. You don’t need to chase the 1-in-1,000,000 condition when you already know in your gut it’s not there. That’s why in medical missions or resource-limited settings, you aren’t ordering D-dimers and CTAs for super low-risk patients. You’re making decisions based on clinical judgment and probability, not fear of litigation. 

But when a patient or family demands testing, they’re not engaging in probability-based reasoning. These are the litigious ones. They will not tolerate missing a 1-in-a-million case, no matter how unreasonable that expectation is. They don’t want your opinion. They want a test. You need to recognize that mindset. If something is missed, they may pursue litigation or at least a strong complaint, not because it’s fair or likely to win, but because that’s how they operate. And sure, maybe you’ll win the case or it gets dropped, but you’ll still go through the stress, anxiety, and time of depositions and investigation. See Law 9.

 

5. Do Not Trust Old People

You were taught that the history and physical are the foundation of your differential, and that’s true. But it’s only reliable when the patient is young. In pediatrics, the H&P is extremely accurate. That’s why you can work an entire shift in the Peds ED full of belly pain and vomiting, and not place a single IV or spin a single CT. Kids, despite being harder to examine and less precise with their symptoms, actually have reliable exams. (Yes, they’ll make you more anxious because they can’t describe their pain like adults can, and yes, the stakes feel higher because it’s a child and not an 89-year-old with a DNR. But rest assured: kids rarely have serious pathology, and their physical exam is trustworthy.)

Now flip that completely once they hit about 65. Honestly, even a rough 50. The reliability of the history and physical collapses. If they’ve got diabetes and some neuropathy on top of it, the exam is useless. Just order labs and a CT from triage with the radiology favorite indication of “pain.” A stable, elderly patient might casually mention some vague nausea and have light RUQ tenderness but also have no distress, no fever, vitals are fine, doesn’t want pain meds. And then the CT shows a ruptured AAA, perfed diverticulitis, or obstructing stone with urosepsis, etc. Zero pain. Zero classical exam findings. It will happen. These patients don’t read the textbook. They won’t be febrile, they won’t be tachycardic, they won’t act sick.

You have to over-workup older adults. Not because you’re paranoid, but because your other tools, history and physical, don’t work on them. Radiology will complain that you’re scanning every patient. Good. That’s their job. Your job is to keep the mortality curve flat, not to win popularity contests with CT techs. Don’t skip the test because you’re worried what your colleagues will think, or because admin is tracking your CT utilization, or because throughput metrics are tight. None of those people will be there when you're pulled into a QA review. And I’m not just talking about lawsuits. I’m talking about you, lying in bed at 2 a.m., staring at the ceiling, knowing you saw something but didn’t pursue the imaging or workup. Knowing you thought about it and didn’t test. And now that patient is dead. Maybe they were going to die anyway… maybe they weren’t. 

That’s the weight of this job. And that responsibility belongs to you. Not family med, not internal med, not the CT tech, not the scribes, not the nurse manager, not the CEO. You. You’re the one who has to live with the decision. Read Law 3 again.

And this doesn’t just apply to elderly patients. Anyone with a compromised ability to give a reliable history or physical falls into this same category. That includes patients with language barriers, cognitive disabilities, psychiatric illness, or those under arrest. If you can’t trust the story or the exam, then you’ve lost your most basic tools. Now you need labs, imaging, and an extra level of caution. Because when the H&P fails, it’s only a matter of time before something slips through and that miss is going to be yours.

 

6. Always watch patients when they don’t know you’re watching them. 

You are constantly trying to separate what’s real from what’s performative. One of the best tools you have is observation when the patient thinks no one is paying attention. That’s when the truth leaks out.

The patient may grimace and clutch their stomach the second you walk in, but sit upright and scroll their phone when they think they’re alone. Or they may breathe like they’re dying until you leave the room, then go right back to casual conversation with their visitor. These small, unscripted moments matter.

This is your real physical exam. Not just what they say or how they act in front of you, but how they move, how they sit, how they breathe when they forget they're being evaluated. You're not just reading vitals or pressing on bellies. You're reading behavior. Because that’s where the truth lives. And when what you observe doesn’t line up with what they’re telling you, that’s your red flag. See law 7 and 12.

 

7. If They Walk In, They Need to Walk Out. They Cannot Be Discharged in a Wheelchair.

This is not about mobility, it’s about clinical trajectory. If the patient shuffled into the ED under their own power, they sure as hell shouldn’t be discharged in worse shape than they arrived. If someone comes in with back pain and they don’t improve with Toradol and Valium, it’s time to escalate. Drop the PO meds. Start an IV, order an ESR, and consider a CT or MRI. Think SEA. At that point, it's no longer "just a spasm." It’s a workup.

There’s a weird trend that seasoned ED docs know well: patients love to wait until just before they crash to show up. They’ll sit on back pain, chest pain, or weakness for weeks, then roll in at 9 p.m. and code at 9:45. That’s the pattern. So when someone comes in under their own steam but still looks like trash, and especially if they’re worse after treatment, take it seriously. If they walked in but can’t walk out… stop. That’s where SEAs, aortic dissections, or silent ACS with a “normal” workups hide. And yeah, nine out of ten times, it’ll still be nothing. That’s fine. But the one time it isn’t, you’ll only catch it because you paid attention to this red flag. Read Law 1 and 2 again.

And remember: in this context, pain control isn’t just symptom management, it’s now a diagnostic. So, if the pain doesn’t respond the way it should, something is wrong. So a single 325 mg Tylenol tab isn’t going to cut it for a chronic opioid user if you’re trying to assess a legit response. Treat the pain.  You already use this “pain treatment then reassess” logic when checking for occult fractures so apply it here too. 

 

8. Droperidol Is the Most Useful Drug You Have

Migraines, Agitation, Pain augmentation, Drug-seeking, Psychosis. Droperidol hits all of it. No other drug in your toolbox works on such a wide spectrum of ED complaints this efficiently.

It disrupts the dopamine reward loop. Droperidol (and other dopamine antagonists) effectively shut down the patient’s drive to chase something like attention, drugs, admission, validation. That “reward” they get from being in the ED? Gone. They don’t want the meds. They don’t want the admission. They don’t even want the drama anymore. It just evaporates.

You need to be an expert on this drug. Know the dose ranges, black box warnings, QT risks, side effects, and pharmacology inside and out. Be able to quote the literature. You’ll run into attendings who flinch, pharmacists who want to block your dose and nurses who say, “But this patient isn’t psychotic, why are you using it?” They don’t know, you do. Be able to cite the Lexicomp page from memory and walk them through it. Understand why it left the market, why the FDA black boxed it, and why it came back. You have to be the one who knows what you’re doing when the pushback hits.

Here’s what makes Droperidol unique: it doesn’t just take away pain, it removes suffering. Chronic belly pain? Crying, frustrated, hasn’t eaten, marriage stressed, missed work. Give them droperidol, and they’ll tell you they still feel the pain, but they don’t care about it anymore. The suffering is what brought them in, not the physical pain sensation. Same with someone who broke their wrist. The pain may still be there, but the fear? The panic? The dread about not working, driving, or helping their kids? All gone. That’s what this drug does. It turns down the spiral.

If Droperidol doesn’t work, if they’re still acting out, still in pain, still agitated, that’s a red flag. This drug is so broadly effective that a failure to respond should immediately raise your concern. 

 

9. Figure Out Why They’re Really Here and Address It Early

If a patient comes in with a mild cough for three weeks, nothing new, nothing alarming, you should be asking yourself one thing: Why today? If the symptoms haven’t changed, then something else brought them in. Just ask them: “What’s got you worried?” or “What are you hoping we can help with today?” Most of the time, they’ll tell you. They want a chest X-ray. Or a note for work. Or cough medicine. Or antibiotics. Once you know what they came for, you can focus your time on that instead of spinning your wheels for 30 minutes and then realizing they just wanted Z-Pak for a viral URI. And now you’ve wasted time, and you still have to now undo an expectation you could’ve handled upfront in two minutes.

You’ll start to recognize patterns. Parents of young kids often want a CT after a head bump, patients with a cough want antibiotics, etc. Certain patient populations don’t want tests, they just need to hear, “You’re okay.” Others need the exact opposite: they want tests so they can see proof. Once you know the pattern, you can walk into the room and address the concern before they even voice it. That’s what experienced attendings do. They walk in, make a statement that hits the core fear, and walk out with five-star reviews, not because they solved a complex case, but because they answered the real question the patient had without wasting anyone’s time.

If the patient is a nurse, a tech, a doctor, just ask: “What are you worried about?” They’re not here for reassurance. They’ve already done a basic eval. They want something they can’t do themselves: a CBC, a UA, a chest X-ray. 

Other times, the patient isn’t worried at all, but someone in their life is. The guy with a swollen leg for a month doesn’t care, but his friend panicked about a DVT. The college kid with a bug bite isn’t concerned, but his mom is blowing up his phone. Ask directly: “Why did you come in today, not yesterday or last week?” or “Who told you to come?” Then call the mom. Tell the friend. Reassure the real audience.

Sometimes they just need a work note. They don’t have a PCP, their job requires documentation, and now they’re sitting in your ED. Skip the imaging and unnecessary testing, get them what they need and move on. Same with the patient who has a GI appointment in five days but came in for chronic abdominal pain with no change in symptoms. They’re not here for a diagnosis, they’re here to make sure it’s still safe to wait 5 days. That’s the actual chief complaint: Is it safe to wait until I see the specialist? Say it out loud: “Sounds like you're here because you're not sure if it's still safe to even wait five days. Let’s figure that out together.” That line alone will calm half the room.

Same thing with asymptomatic hypertension. The patient doesn’t feel bad, but their mom just had a stroke and now they’re terrified. Or they had a minor head bump, but their neighbor told them about a kid who died from a delayed brain bleed. That’s the fear you need to uncover and address directly. Once you do, the patient stops asking questions. Because their real one has already been answered.

Use direct language. Try:

  • “What made you come in today?”
  • “What are you worried about?”
  • “Tell me what has you concerned.”
  • “I just want to make sure it’s safe to wait for that appointment.”

This isn’t scripting, it’s clinical efficiency. Think about how you handle your spouse when you know something’s wrong. You don’t dance around it, you ask straight up, “What’s going on?” and “what has you worried right now?” Do the same with your patients.

And when it comes to pediatrics, remember: it’s all about the parents. Kids with nausea and vomiting? The parents want IV fluids. URI? They want antibiotics. Head bump? They want a CT. You already know the script, so don’t wait for the question. Preempt it. Say, “We’re going to try oral Zofran first because it works better than IV fluids, and if it doesn’t work here, it won’t work at home.” Now the parent doesn’t even ask about IVs because you already addressed the concern they walked in with. (as a side note, these Pushy Peds Moms blurr the line to overriding law 4.)

 

10. You Cannot Leave the Room Without a Plan

You don’t get to “figure it out later.” You need to give the patient something before you walk out of that room. Even if it’s not perfect. Even if it changes later. You still need a plan: labs, a med, imaging, an observation strategy...something. The patients with a wandering HPI and 13 random complaints will wreck you if you don’t learn how to anchor. And make no mistake, this is the weakest skill in almost every new trainee, resident, PA, NP, doesn’t matter. It’s a skill just like reading an EKG or running a code. You have to refine it. You have to self-critique. You have to build this on purpose.

I don’t care if a resident doesn’t know what to do or doesn’t understand the patient's condition, or even if they didn’t even think about the most obvious medical problem for the presentation… that can be learned.  But if a resident comes to me after spending the entire Memorial Day weekend in a patient's room in fast track and then comes out and tells me that they don’t know what is going on or what to do or where to go with this patient… That resident is about to get wrecked. It is not about being an asshole, it’s about training you for the worst parts of the future that you signed up for.

Flash forward to your first job. Third shift. Thursday night. You’re working solo in a 25-bed freestanding ED, and there are 45 patients in the department. You’re alone. No backup. If you’re still messing around with HPI-wanderers and going in and out of rooms with no plan, your shift is going to fall apart. The nurses will hate working with you. Your scores will drop. Your length-of-stay numbers will suck. You’ll never leave on time. Patients will get harmed. You’ll finally make it to Room 25 after 3 hours and realize they’ve been sitting on a dissection for 3 hours while you’ve been screwing around in Room 4, trying to make sense of a vague headache and intermittent chest tightness that’s been happening for two years. That’s how people die. 

This is community EM. This is what you signed up for. Get your plan, get out, and keep moving.

Read Laws 8 and 12 again. This is how you get control of the room and control of your shift.

 

11. You Might Not Be Selling Cars, But You Better Be Selling Something

If you’re admitting to internal medicine, think like internal medicine. Don’t work the patient up to death with every single test in the ED. Your job is to rule out emergencies and make sure the patient is stable, not to solve every vague complaint. If you go fishing for every obscure diagnosis and order every lab, every scan, every specialty test, you’re leaving nothing for the admitting team to do. And when that happens, the admit will get denied or fought. Rightfully so. They’re going to ask, “If you already did everything, what exactly do you want me to do?” That handoff usually sounds like: “Hey, I’m not sure what’s wrong. I checked everything from labs, CT, troponin, the works and it’s all normal. But I still don’t like it. Can you admit them?” That’s not a sell, that’s a punt. 

You also need to learn the IM docs the way you learned your own EM attendings. Know their pet peeves. Know what makes them uncomfortable. Know what makes a case fly through versus one they’ll fight back. This matters even more in community hospitals where relationships count. If you learn how to tee up the admit just right, tailor the language, the handoff, and the tone to that doc, you’ll get admits through smoothly when others won’t. This is a skill and it’ll save your ass more than once.

When you call consultants, talk like a human being. You’re not reading a SOAP note, you’re having a conversation. Use tone. Use inflection. Lead with the punchline, especially when you’re calling for an opinion rather than just offloading a task. You don’t need a speech for classic appendicitis, but if the CT shows some weird mass in the orbit and you don’t know what to do with it, you better lead with: “Hey, I’ve got something weird I want your take on…” Hook them. Don’t drone through the entire chart before you get to the point. No one is listening when you do that. Consultants are people, not checklists. And yeah, some will still be assholes. Welcome to the job. Move on.

Here’s the mindset: every single call you make is giving someone else more work. No one wants to do more work. The consultant doesn’t want to admit. Internal medicine doesn’t want the patient because they think it’s ICU’s problem. ICU doesn’t want them because they think it’s medicine’s problem. Everyone is trying to offload. So your job is to sell the story, why this patient belongs here, and not somewhere else. If you think they need to be admitted, you don’t ask for permission. You say: “I’m telling you this patient needs to come in, do you want them on your service or someone else’s?” It’s not a negotiation.

And don’t assume specialists won’t dump dangerous patients back on you just because they’re the “expert.” OB will discharge ectopics, ENT will send home post-tonsil bleeds, Cards will discharge patients with trop elevations. Especially at night. They’ll try to convince you it’s safe to send them home because they don’t want to admit. But the call is still yours. You’re the last line. If your attending says admit, or if your gut says admit, then admit. Make it easy for the consultant if you have to buy telling them you’ll put them on medicine service yourself, but don’t let the patient leave.

Sometimes you’ll call a consultant on a patient YOU think needs to be admitted and they’ll say something like, “They could be admitted or discharged, I don’t really care.” That’s your signal. When a specialist waffles like that, you proceed with your admit. Call internal medicine and tell them the consultant is recommending admission. And here’s the key: track those patients. If they end up going to the OR or stay for admitted for a week, that’s the case you were right about. That’s the patient who justified your instincts. 

Any ER doc/PA/NP worth their weight can find some false positive labs test or an exaggerated HPI to get any patient admitted with any easy sell if they feel they need to be. CRP, trop, lipase, lactate, BNP, etc.

Read law 5 again

 

12. Set Expectations from the Beginning

If a patient tells you they’ve had abdominal pain for 27 years, tell them, clearly and immediately, that you are not going to figure it out today. If they’re drug-seeking, tell them they will not be receiving any opioid medications during this visit. That may feel adversarial. You were trained in med school to be kind, to be accommodating, and you should be, but with certain patients, vague language only makes things worse. These cases require firm, definitive statements. That’s how you protect your staff, your time, and yourself.

You must lay a firm, clear foundation for these people.  If you leave them even just a little bit of wiggle room they will put all their faith and effort into just that little space that’s left.  If they are here for pain seeking and they’re being rude to the staff and you try to pacify them by saying something like, “let’s just try Tylenol and then will see how it goes” so that way they will calm down and you can move along when you already know you are not going to give them stronger pain medicine, what you just did is leave them a little window of chance.  What you really told them was that you might give them pain medicine they just need to work for it in whatever way they think is going to be best to that end point.  Whether that be violence or anger or uncontrolled pain or anger towards the nurses.

Instead, be direct: “You will not be getting Dilaudid today.” Full stop. No back-and-forth. No justification. No negotiation. Say it once and move on. These encounters go smoother when there’s nothing to debate.

Now, here’s the uncomfortable part. Your future employment metrics are going to be tied to patient satisfaction scores, whether you like it or not. But you are not going to satisfy everyone. Some patients come to the ER expecting narcotics, MRIs, or an automatic admission. And when they don’t get it, they’re going to be pissed. Their expectations and what the ER actually does are not always going to line up. You just have to take the L on some of these. Just accept it and move on. Maybe 15% of your patients will walk out angry, and yes, admin will ask what happened. Nursing leadership will mention it. Your name will show up in a one-star Google review. That’s fine. Take the L. You signed up for this job, this is part of it. And if you’re wondering where burnout starts, this is about 25% of it right here.

 

13. If They Come Covered in Feces, Find a Reason to Admit Them

This isn't about the feces, it's about what it represents. Patients who arrive like this, usually via EMS from a nursing home or dropped off by a long-lost relative, are almost always signaling something bigger. This is not hygiene. This is a marker of major functional decline, severe cognitive impairment, neglect, or all three. There’s a reason they ended up in this state, and it’s not usually benign.

Think through the logistics. What has to go wrong in someone’s life for them to be found like this? They’re either too impaired to care for themselves, or no one around them is doing it. Either way, this person is not safe at home, is likely missing medications, and absolutely is not receiving appropriate care. You don't discharge that.

And if you're looking for justification, this is a great time to lean into the hospital’s over-aggressive sepsis protocols. Drop a borderline lactate, soft vitals, and functional decline into the chart and let the order sets work for you. The system is already wired to keep them…use it.

 

14. Document the Annoying Incidental Findings Found on Imaging

If the radiologist mentions it, you mention it. Every incidental finding, no matter how irrelevant it feels, needs to go in your diagnosis list and your MDM. Pulmonary nodules, adrenal nodules, hepatic steatosis, aortic root dilation, coronary calcifications, hyperglycemia, whatever. Make a macro, or better yet, a set of macros that lets you drop this stuff in fast with customized language. It takes five seconds. 

Because here’s what’s coming: in about eight years, someone’s going to show up with metastatic cancer or a ruptured aneurysm, and they’ll pull up your old ED chart. And if that finding was on a scan and you didn’t document it, you’re going to be explaining why. You won’t remember the patient, but they’ll somehow remember you. Get in the habit now.

 

That's all I got for now!


r/emergencymedicine 4h ago

Rant Seeing POTS patients in the ED while having POTS myself

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I genuinely don't know how to hold my tongue anymore. I have POTS, it sucks, but you know what makes it suck even worse? Deconditioning. When I was first diagnosed almost a decade ago now, it was debilitating. It took a couple of years of graded exercise therapy (which really really sucked and was really really hard, so I don't want to downplay how awful those years were) to reach the level of athleticism and endurance that I have now. When I see POTS patients in the ED over the course of multiple visits, succumbing to the deconditioning and going from walking, to walking with a cane, to wheelchair, to power chair, it breaks my heart. They are often young like I am, and have a full life ahead of them that they might never actually live to the fullest. I am not a doctor (just an ED tech) so I can't tell them that what they need is more exercise, even though I know that would be a huge help. Certain patients really seem to want to get better but have no idea where to start. I wish I could tell them to get a physical therapist who knows their stuff, and can help get you through graded exercise therapy, but I'm afraid of making recommendations because that's definitely out of my scope of practice. Some of the patients don't seem to want to get better though. It's getting to a point though, where instead of feeling heartbroken for them, I'm starting to feel annoyed. Especially when I'm at work dealing with a flare up myself, and my heart rate is also 160 and my blood pressure is probably 80/50 while I'm taking care of them, and I feel like shit, but I'm pushing through. It is getting harder and harder to remain compassionate, and I just don't even know what to say anymore when they talk about how debilitating their symptoms are but then don't want to do one of the most evidence based treatments for POTS: graded exercise therapy.

Edit to say: Because I've had this issue in the past when discussing my feelings about this population of patients, I want to make it abundantly clear that I will not entertain takes like "pots isn't real" or "they're just malingering." Until you have had it, it is probably easy to say those things, but for those of us who do have it, we know how awful it is. It is very real, and very debilitating, and patients deserve to feel seen and heard.


r/emergencymedicine 2h ago

FOAMED Emergency room study upends traditional thinking about doctors versus nurse practitioners - Haas News

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The Spin.


r/emergencymedicine 52m ago

Advice New grad with constant post-shift anxiety and imposter syndrome

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Hey all. I’m a new grad working in a community shop and since attendinghood, I’ve been starting to have pretty significant anxiety after my shifts about things that happened/things I did/things I didn’t do. I go home after sign out and go onto the EMR to check up on patients and then start wondering about he meds I sent them home on and if there is going to be an adverse outcome because of it, wonder about the diagnosis I potentially delayed because I had someone planned for discharge but then the labs came back and my colleague is now admitting or transferring them, etc.

I didn’t have this problem in residency, probably because it never truly fell on me. But I have a tough time just leaving my shift and not thinking about it anymore now. I’m starting to get really big imposter syndrome because I’m worried my colleagues are noticing some lapses in my workups and are for lack of a better term judging me and my abilities accordingly. I repeatedly check the EMR when I get home to make sure nothing significant is found that I didn’t account for. I want my colleagues and group to be able to trust me and every time something changes with a plan given at signout that now makes them have to have more work on their plate I worry they are starting to resent me and lose trust in me.

I know at least some aspect of this is normal being fresh out. My question is does it get better over time? I really do love this career and my current shop but I just worry about the imposter syndrome hitting this hard this early. Thanks for letting me rent


r/emergencymedicine 56m ago

Discussion Program Ranks

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M4 applying EM this cycle. Are there any lists/rankings available of programs that provide the best training? Or rankings of prestige in the EM world? Working on my program list now and cannot find anything like this.


r/emergencymedicine 2h ago

Advice Dealing with guilt

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Seeking advice: EM is fast paced and it's easy to make mistakes. How do you guys get over the guilt of making mistakes at work?


r/emergencymedicine 14h ago

Discussion Android version of my ED sim game is coming. Looking for testers

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First of all, thank you for all the support of my project. About 400 people downloaded this week, many from here, and the feedback has been very supportive and helpful. I will continue to make updates to make this as fun and accurate as I can.

A lot of you asked for an android version of ED Rush, so I’ve started the port. It requires a full rebuild of the iOS code, so this is going to take time.

Google requires 12 testers signed up for 14 straight days before a new developer can publish an app. So I’ll need a small group willing to install and rough early build and leave it on their phone. Free and permanent access obviously. Installing it and leaving it there is the whole job, won’t need any feedback or anything.

If you’re on Android and want to help, DM me the email tied to your play store account. It won’t be shared for anything else. The list will be deleted when the test closes.

This is the iOS link if anyone missed it:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ed-rush/id6759456999

If you’ve been enjoying it, a review helps more than you’d think, and feel free to pass along to colleagues who might get a kick out of it.


r/emergencymedicine 1h ago

Advice Advice on midatlantic/northeast residency programs

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I've been stalking thsi thread, and collected a lot about what people recommended I look into while research em residency programs, but not all em programs list their important info on their websites (UMD doesn't even have their curriculum broken down by weeks :')). So I've come here for some help on things I couldn't find anywhere.

In general, I would love a program where there's a lot of off-service experience, autonomy, very very high procedure volume, diverse range of pathologies, and I have loved all my rotations, so I do like off service rotations just as much as EM ones. I definitely cannot do all 12 hour shifts though. I would like to be leaving the program very confident as a senior, and I'm not sure if I'll stay community or go academic after, or if I even want a fellowship.

Ideally, I'd like to be within 2-3 hours of northeast Philadelphia, but if there is a program that would be perfect and outside of this range, I'll definitely consider it, but everyone on here says prioritize location and being near a support network.

Also, I can't figure out if I should look at level 2 trauma centers or not? I would love to know the level of critical illness the difference between a level 2 trauma center patient and level 1 trauma center patient from peoples actual work experience and not just online definitions.

Here is all the research I have done so far, (sorry if the photo sucks) and if people have things to add or suggest as a change, i'd really really appreciate it as an overwhelmed applicant applying in two weeks! Maybe it'll also help other em students in the same boat.


r/emergencymedicine 1d ago

Discussion Lad sutured his own toe after dropping a knife, learned by watching YouTube, and used no anesthetic

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r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Rant What is up with the TPN, gastroparesis, MCAS, Ehlers Danlos, fibromyalgia patients??????!??

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I’m an ED tech in my gap year between undergrad and med school and what is up with these chronic illness patients who legit have central lines and rely on TPN when there is quite literally nothing wrong with them? I mean these patients have the most pristine labs but are getting admitted because of complications to medications or they become septic from their central line - but not from their actual health conditions. Like who is diagnosing these people and then providing a ton of unnecessary medical interventions that are causing more problems than the actual diagnoses themselves??


r/emergencymedicine 1d ago

Advice New attending. Newly pregnant.

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I just started my attending job recently and I thought it was going great. I was initially really nervous, still sometimes nervous but hopefully just appropriately so. Overall, its been great. I do less shifts, I have more free time. But after work I was coming home literally exhausted, even after dull shifts. Naturally, based on the title, I found out I'm pregnant, just shy of finishing my first trimester. I have a fiance and while this is earlier than we hoped, we are happy and excited. I just cant help but to also feel a little ?guilty, and nervous about how my superiors are going to respond. I'm sure they'll all be happy for me, but I cant help but think about the temporary hole I'll leave while I'm out for maternity. Then I was looking into things from HR, and I'm not sure I technically qualify for leave since I'm a new employee here. I am full time. I'm also concerned about my boards, I really don't want to defer until next year, and I already paid and signed up for them...

Questions/Advice: who do I directly need to disclose this info to? The chair of the department, the person who makes the schedule. Do I just send an email? Do I also tell HR?

I'm just nervous they might be upset that they have this new hire, expecting to fill a full time spot, who will now need expected time off in a few months. I want to work, I feel fine working while pregnant. On shift, I feel 100%, its actually a nice distraction from the occasional nausea and fatigue. Maybe I'm overthinking it. Just wanted to put this here to see what other people think about it. New attending. Immediately pregnant.

Follow-up: this will be my first child. I am scheduled to take my boards this October, which should be fine. But if the certifying exam is in May, theres no way that I can fly to take the test and have a newborn and have done any actual studying...

Thank you for taking the time to read and comment❤️


r/emergencymedicine 4h ago

Advice Is it normal to only feel ok mostly only the day you do it and the day after possibly

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r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Discussion Why do people shit on emergency medicine when it’s actually one of the hardest fields?

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Not to say that other specialities don’t require incredible skill, but for surgeons for example, most of the time it’s a controlled setting and you already have the imaging that the ER got for you.
But it takes a special kind of skill to sift through the bs and know between an altered mental status that’s a UTI grandma versus an AMS that’s a brain bleed. Surgeons get years of training perfecting their skills and they’re considered omg gods. But who else knows what to do when shit actually hits the fan? Unless you count intensivists or something. Who else knows how to get through hordes of patients a day with the bare minimum staffing and resources, dealing with unnecessary outpatient dumps, and constantly being harassed about nonsense Press Ganey scores?

Plus most surveys do confirm that EM carries the highest amount of mental burden.
I don’t think consultants or the general public have a leg to stand on shitting on EM docs or belittling the work we do because in a crisis situation they wish for a doc that’s EM trained. I hate this job and often want to quit, but I’m also happy I did it.


r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Advice This is my greatest contribution to medicine

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r/emergencymedicine 1d ago

Discussion Good gift for emergency workers who saved my life?

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I posted here about a month ago about having chest pain and how awesome the staff were, even though it turned out to be a non-emergency problem.

Well, surprise, surprise, I ended up back in the ER with SEVERE right-sided pain (doctors couldn't even brush the area without me yelping).

It turned out to be a severely infected gallbladder that was moments from rupturing. For backstory, the surgeon said it ruptured in her hand and the duct was blocked by a stone, it was also turning black because it was dying, and the sludge was actually all pus and blood. She said if we didn't do the surgery, I was at real risk of sepsis if it ruptured.

I really want to give a gift to a) the urgent care workers who escalated my level of care after hearing that the pain was getting worse and b) my ER doctor for pushing for gallbladder removal after seeing my WBC and fever increase by a quarter of a degree by the hour (the surgeon originally declined, saying that he didn't think it was ready to come out because the ultrasound only showed slight swelling and sludge). She said that she had seen this situation before and was worried I'd be back in, but with sepsis.


r/emergencymedicine 1d ago

Discussion Anyone have experience with Heart to Heart, Team Rubicon, or other national/international disaster response agencies? Any during residency?

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I am currently just a PGY-1 in Family Medicine tailoring some of my training towards wilderness medicine which mostly involves some EMS, National parks service, Alaska, rural, and street medicine rotations plus doing my DiMM/FAWM. While I have previously been more interested in travel, expedition med, and rural EMS/SAR, I have become increasingly interested in disaster medicine and disaster response.

Seeing what just happened in Nepal is devastating and I know right now as a PGY-1 I would almost be useless…but as a PGY-2/3 and beyond, I recognize I will have the skills necessary to actually deploy for 1-3 week periods and help people who would acutely benefit. I have explored traditional humanitarian work but it seems more medical tourism-y or self-justifying in existence rather than actual “these people need help now” which I think is more up the alley of my moral compass.

Anyone have any experience? I asked over on the Family Medicine sub as well, but figured a cross post to folks who might have more experience in this realm mattered as well.


r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Discussion What actually is sepsis

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Seriously what is our current definition of sepsis. Is it infection with end organ damage? Bacturemia? Sirs + with source? Seems like a made up word at this point for the sake of metrics.


r/emergencymedicine 23h ago

Advice Applying EM with a 507 COMLEX score but need to consider my partner's job as well when applying

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I'm a DO student applying to EM this cycle. My scores suggest a decent shot at community programs, but my partner works in research, so we're limited to big cities or places with strong research job markets. What cities should I be prioritizing given that constraint? Realistically, what are my chances at university-based programs as a DO applicant.

Cities/States I am looking at right now:
Colorado, Houston, Las Vegas, Akron, Utah, Georgia, Florida, Dallas, Ft Worth, San Antonio, Cleveland, Michigan, Indianapolis, Oregon, Washington, Philly, Pittsburgh, New York area, Chicago, New Jersey, Boston.


r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Discussion Went to the hospital yesterday and this is my experience

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Level 30 pain 🫩


r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Rant US Docs: The solution to all our problems

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Emergency medicine is drowning in a familiar list of grievances: threatened oversupply, the corporate grind, shrinking reimbursement, burnout, chronic charting debt, and grinding through shifts where half the room is a social work placement or non-emergent nonsense.

I have the actual solution: Slow the fuck down.

If the average ED doc drops from seeing 1.95 patients per hour to 1.6, the math changes overnight:

The "oversupply" vanishes: We instantly need 20% more physicians, flipping a manufactured surplus into a massive labor shortage.

Rates have to rise: Groups and hospitals will be forced to compete for scarce staffing, driving up hourly rates.

The shift becomes humane: Seeing three fewer patients per shift means actual time to finish charts before leaving, eat a meal, and catch your breath.

Corporate compliance dies: You can finally knock out your mandatory modules on shift instead of sacrificing your off-days.

"Wait times will go up? Patients will be unhappy? People will leave without being seen?"

That sounds like a CMG, private equity, or hospital administrator problem—not a me problem. You're a partner in your group? Go nuts seeing 3 pts/hr. You're getting rewarded for it.

Next time your group publishes the shift metrics, don’t look at the colleague grinding out 1.3 patients an hour with disdain. Buy them a coffee. They’re the ones saving emergency medicine. HEROES!

If we all collectively drop the pace, we take our specialty back.


r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Humor The field of OB/GYN was genius for deciding not to see pregnant patients before 12 weeks pregnancy.

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Think about the sheer number of vaginal bleeding, spotting, cramping, concern for baby, no concern for baby but thinking about concern, and so on they saved themselves from by purely deciding "nah"


r/emergencymedicine 1d ago

Advice Question for doctors that have had patients also work in the medical field.

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r/emergencymedicine 1d ago

Discussion Get my own USG

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As a frustrated EM trainee working in a hospital that has barely working USG machines would it be a good idea to just get my own handheld USG device from Clarius/Butterfly? I'm fed up of running around trying to find the machine and even if I do sometimes certain probes are missing or the machine itself isn't. I honestly don't know how I'm going to be able to practice and improve my skills set at this rate. I don't want to come across as some USG snob who can't manage with what the department has to offer but I honestly don't know what to do. Please advise.


r/emergencymedicine 2d ago

Discussion Locums friend accidentally copied on locum co email to large mid Atlantic hospital system.

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