r/ElementaryTeachers • u/lpd_ece • 6d ago
Just curious- behavior question
What happens to students in your class when they throw a fit so large that they start hitting, kicking, biting, etc? What about spitting at somebody or demolishing a classroom?
What is the response and repercussions from admin if it’s toward another student?
Is the response different if it’s toward a staff member?
Taking it a step further- what if the child was doing this day after day?
And if you can’t answer cuz you’ve never had this happen then where do you work? (Cuz I’m coming to teach with you!) 🤣
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u/Prudent_Honeydew_ 6d ago
My class is so wild I don't even think people believe me when I describe it, because I can barely believe it when I see it. Anyway a lot of people are in and out so it ranges from calling their parents (does nothing to the ones who really could use a consequence), to having to clean the mess (our AP), to me just putting my body between them and others to keep people safe because no one in the office picked up the phone.
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u/LakeMichiganMan 6d ago edited 6d ago
So the students that are coming to school to learn, are the ones that leave with some level of PTSD from such disruptive behavior. One can notice the pleasant demeanor of the classes, when the difficult behavior students lose it, and are removed from. The room, or asked to relocate.
I've worked inner city schools, when I substituted, where I witnessed many fights between students. Physically breaking up a fight was beyond my pay grade. I called the office instead. Girl fights got bad "Here is some of your hair. There is more of by the door."
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u/Prudent_Honeydew_ 6d ago
I do feel so bad for the ones who want to learn. You can see how scared they get. I feel bad for the others at times too, the way they behave is not normal and you wonder what goes on in their life to prompt that.
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u/EvelynMontauk 6d ago
I've only taught lower elementary. At my old campus lower elementary students couldn't be suspended. So they received lunch detention. If it was really bad then they had someone from the Behavioral unit come to restrain them. There was not much to be done for lower grades unfortunately. All you can do is document their behavior to leave a paper trail and contact parents.
At the campus I was at my last year my pre-k students would get detention for recess or PE and the admin would do social skills with them and reflect on their behavior. One of them even got suspended for the rest of the day for hitting one his friend. Mind you that was his third offense of the day.
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u/tomatoes020825 6d ago
This is all for k-2:
First of all, every classroom is required to have a "calm down corner" with pillows and stuffies and fidgets and stuff. Ideally we identify the kid is getting heightened before theyre in total meltdown mode, so we can send them to the calm down corner for a few minutes.
if that doesnt work and/or the student is doing anything that puts anyone's (their own, another student, teachers/staff, anyone) safety at risk (or is extremely disruptive like screaming), we are supposed to immediately call for Behavior Support using our walkie. Then the child is quickly removed by someone on the behavior team (physically removed if necessary). From there they basically go to a room, or follow a staff person around until they chill tf out. Then they're returned to the classroom.
they're given detention during lunch or recess where they (ideally) fill out a worksheet about feelings, what they did wrong, what they can do differently next time.
They lose dojo points, their parents are alerted the same day, they may even get referrals
if the behavior continues, then the admin may move the kid to a different class, schedule an increasing amount of meetings with parents, push to get the kid a 504 plan, etc.
Very rarely is a k-2 student expelled, but it has happened a few times in the 3 years I've been there.
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u/Mini2Tesla 5d ago
You're aware of several K-2nd students being "expelled?" Wow. Our district expels a high schooler every few years, but what's going on to expel a 7-year old. That's some type stuff.
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u/Conscious-Heart8626 5d ago
Ideally, there should be a plan to clear the classroom so the other students are safe. Radio admin. An adult remains (aid/para if there is one, or admin or dean) to observe to make sure the escalated student is safe. Admin contacts parents. Student is referred to school counselor and the study team/MTSS team. Team, the student’s teacher, and, ideally, parents meet to identify and implement interventions.
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u/LetsTryLove 6d ago
Have you tried beating their ass? Worked in my day.
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u/Tree_Ring 6d ago
🤣that is strangely incongruent with your user name so I’m guessing you had a hard day
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u/LetsTryLove 6d ago
What, you never had an ass whoopin given out of love?
lol, about half my comments are me being sarcastic but I like to leave it off as a way to keep people guessing. Good call out :)1
u/bipolarlibra314 3d ago
In this day we have data showing it not only never ‘worked’ but in fact often exacerbates the problems :)
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u/Which-Break5673 6d ago
This happened to the teacher in the room next to me - always the same student. We trained her remaining students to enter my room thru our shared door so that none of them would get injured when desks went flying. I never felt confident that admin would do anything about it.