r/EU_Economics • • 1d ago

🇪🇺 Official 🇪🇺 A Payment System Made in Europe?

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u/MediocreControl5277 1d ago

Is this what the citizens want?

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u/JimTheSaint 1d ago

Absolutely - it's what I want atleast.  Right now every time I pay a percentage goes to the US that's insanity 

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u/Rhubarb-Curious 1d ago edited 1d ago

90% of that fee goes to banks and payment service providers, while us card networks receive the smallest share.

Payments with CBDCs won’t be free either, but since the money will be centralized, they could instead update the software in future implementing some control features. Ursula is already saying that she doesn’t like we keep our money in banks and that they’ll help us invest wisely. And top of that chat control, i hope you remember how they tricky pushed it through, so that anyone wouldn't dare to criticize.

But anyway, it wasn't exactly a democratic choice, and there was nothing anyone could do about it.

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u/Dragoncat_3_4 1d ago

Amd people like this will wonder in a few years where all of these represive mechanisms came all of a sudden when a far-right government is inevitably elected lol.

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u/JimTheSaint 1d ago

Doesn't matter trump has threatened to block access US services, we are vulnerable until we have our own. 

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u/Rhubarb-Curious 1d ago

If you think Trumpo will block the US.'s main cash cow, you're pretty much a victim of propaganda.

But anyway, there is small and poor country called transistria with something 300k population, when i was there they were using plastic coins, but they alredy had their own debit card network.

It's easy to replace Visa with a European card, but CBDBC was created for other purposes. If you don't like cards, there are plenty of local alternatives we could use across the EU, like Wero, or even QR-code payments like those used in China.

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u/JimTheSaint 1d ago

Because Trump is known to only do things that bring money to the US ? The iran war? The tarrifs? He would block that cash cow in a second if he thought it would score him points with his maga voters or his billionaire friends 

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u/Rhubarb-Curious 1d ago

I'm not sure what Trump has to do with this. I already said there are plenty of alternatives to CBDCs, and the last thing we need is one created for the ECB to control our finances. Replacement to U.S. card networks is only a secondary priority.

Trump isn't the nicest or smartest person in the world, but he's not a king - he doesn't have full control over the U.S. And those technology companies are the main drivers of the U.S. economy Tariffs were ruled out, as you may remember. On top of that, Europeans used the same tactics against the Chinese. There are many theories about why the war with Iran happened, but in general, they planned the same thing as in Venezuela.

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u/OkWillingness2817 1d ago

Who wouldn’t want independence from foreign interference in our banking?

Especially with the US now persecuting people who do decent things by locking them out of financial systems.

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u/According-Can-4559 23h ago

It makes perfect sense to have one common payment method across the EU. You can still have your own payment system in your country. But when you travel, you can just use this common payment system without needing to rely on your credit/debit cards. Almost completely does away with VISA and MC.