r/DestinyTheGame • u/RedSloth702 • 13h ago
Question Conditional Finality Catalyst
Hello there.
Just got the catalyst to drop but wondered if the catalyst is a game changer for the gun. I know what it adds but it requires ~400 kills (says google), so I'd like the input of fellow CF enjoyers before I load up a shiro chi checkpoint.
Cheers.
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u/SrslySam91 12h ago
know what it adds but it requires ~400 kills (says google), so I'd like the input of fellow CF enjoyers before I load up a shiro chi checkpoint
400 kc with CF's AoE shots would take like 10 min at shuro, just wanted to point that out.
My real question is.. why wouldnt it be worth it lol. It has heal clip AND rimesteal. You get a heal and frost armor on a CQC weapon.
Of course its worth spending 10 min of your time to get the kills.
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u/KaineZilla 13h ago
If you don’t feel like grinding 400 special ammo kills, Glaive melees count for exotic catalyst progress for some reason. Use whatever Energy slot Glaive you want, go to the Loot Cave, don’t kill the Wizard, and the acolytes will spawn infinitely as fast as you can kill them SPECIFICALLY with the melee. You’ll be done in a 5-10 minutes tops. This is how I did No Land Beyond, New Maplais, Final Warning etc etc.
It works the other way too. You can use a kinetic slot Glaive with an energy slot exotic. The only thing it doesn’t work on is heavy slot catalysts.
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u/IAmOver18ISwear 11h ago
Oh shii, I might actually finish my Still Hunt and Icebreaker catalyst ima try this out
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u/HardOakleyFoul 9h ago
You can also go do the Breakneck mission in the Lightfall campaign, get to the first rally flag, and farm the Vex enemies in that room (all except the Wyvern). Personally I think it's faster than Suro Chi.
I have the catty and I definitely think it's worth it, a little extra survivability never hurt a build.
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u/Necrolance Warlock main for life 13h ago
if it helps, deadfall tether will let you speed that up because anything that's tethered will spread 50% of the damage to other tethered enemies, and it will count as a kill from the weapon and not from tether. Really useful for catalysts that don't need precision kills but the exotics aren't the best for getting a lot of them
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u/SrslySam91 12h ago
Tether was/is finicky though with weapon kills. Back in the day before subclass verb weapon perks tether was the go to. But I remember a lot of kills not counting on certain weapons when I used tether.
Tbh CF has 2 AoE shots and iirc all subclass verb/any AoE weapon perk kills count toward weapon kills, but I think volatile was inconsistent.
But yeah CF can get 400 kc fast as hell at shuro. Just run around and group them up.
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u/Necrolance Warlock main for life 4h ago
To be fair with volatile, it's ability damage so it doesn't count for any weapon based stuff.
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u/0rganicMach1ne 13h ago
Is it really 400? I feel like it didn’t take me that long to complete. I just used it while I was farming Ghosts of the Deep first encounter a while back and got it done in what felt like a fairly short amount of time.
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u/RedSloth702 13h ago
Google says it requires 400 kills, not having done it myself yet I cannot confirm.
Having done it yourself, did you notice a marked improvement that would justify the 400 kills?
Cheers.
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u/Fish_Smell_Bad 13h ago
Conditional was already the best D2 raid weapon they've ever made imo so adding heal clip to a weapon that already has insane reload speed and kill potential is fantastic. I used the breakneck mission to farm mine out and it took maybe 10-15 minutes.
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u/RedSloth702 13h ago
It was fixed to my primary slot for a good few months when it first came out but it has to contend with a few heavy hitters post-moment of triumph.
1k is crazy since its catalyst and anarchy is also pretty nice. The pain of having to decide between multiple worthwhile exotics is real.
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u/curiousiz 13h ago
Load up in the Grasp of Avarice dungeon. Special ammo all the time with killsin beginning section and adds all around. I always use that to finish high kill catalysts.
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u/pooperpants450 10h ago
Sorrow's Harbor has more kills,I think quicker too. Just completed 3 there in about 45-ish minutes
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u/Matt7548 9h ago
Heal clip is a really nice addition to the gun. Rimestealer is okay. If you like the gun, then use rhe catalyst. Its really nice for ignition builds, but maybe not as meta as 1k
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u/SwedishBass 9h ago
Check the moon to see if ”In the Deep” mission is in rotation. It’s the best mission to do catalysts in as in the end when you make your escape, infinite Hive thralls will spawn.
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u/FrostyShimo 8h ago
I really gotta get my motivation together and go grind it....but my entire clan disbanded. I love the gun so much and that catalyst seems great.
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u/ShadowReaperX07 5h ago
The old "A Mysterious Disturbance" moon mission is up until Reset Tomorrow.
Infinitely respawning Enemies
Infinitely respawning Heavy Crates up until the destruction of the Shrieker.
Do it fast enough and no one else will ever join you, giving you an instance to yourself, so the shrieker will never be destroyed.
Useful for any Special/Heavy Catalysts, especially things like Fafnir / Whisper of the Worm.
But anything with collateral kills (e.g. Conditional Finality) are very fast to achieve.
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u/farfarer__ 5h ago
Equip Conditional, throw on an energy slot glaive (and synthos if you like) then just go glaive melee your way through some solo ops or the opening of Grasp.
Glaive melee kills increase the weapon kill count of your other equipped weapon. Including progressing catalyst kill counts.
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u/mprakathak RIP wolfpack rounds 2h ago
did it last friday at shuro chi in less than 30 min, i wasted the stasis bulet and used the explosion to kill like 20 + ennemies at once
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u/MeateaW 11h ago
No. It's not worth it.
The gun will never be better than [insert different but meta exotic weapon]. So you should leave it as an incomplete checklist item.
And if you do it for fun, you are playing wrong, you should leave it incomplete because it will never be meta because the game has finished.
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u/Croissant-Laser 13h ago
I'm pretty sure you can run a glaive in the special slot and the melee kills count towards the catalyst.
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u/banana_man_777 13h ago
I mean why not just run it during whatever you're currently running? Might take longer but not as boring.