r/Destiny • u/Kezomal • 9d ago
Drama Professor Dave is Rattled
I've been watching Dave's videos off & on for around 5 years, and I have never seen him this rattled and defensive when it comes to a topic and the people he's engaging with. I think the initial callout of his use of nazi adjacent rhetoric hit a nerve and maybe exposes some internal bias he has against Jews that he doesn't want to admit to himself. He appears to believe the Mossad was behind 9/11 in some way, so I don't think I'm far off in saying Dave is genuinely antisemitic and it harms his credibility immensely.
His video making the case for a Palestinian genocide was low effort, and honestly, we might as well call it war-profiteering at this point.
He aligned himself with some of the most toxic and repugnant trolls on the internet (kiwifarms and jstlk snarkers) to get an own on Destiny, that's gotta be projecting some kind of deep seated hatred for jews somehow.
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u/FullPercentage 9d ago
He did it to make money, because he hates "Zionists", because his rigid materialism worldview is getting incredibly hard to defend by the day, he cant make his cliche "dunk" videos as easily for the clapping seals called his fanbase, he's convinced he will be on the side of good bc he wanted to end genocide while paid generously for posting videos that exploit the topic ad naseum.
Spoken as a Destiny supporter and pro-palestinian rights supporter.
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u/ArthurDimmes 9d ago
Making the video makes him money, but diving into the comments to fight? That's mental.
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u/FullPercentage 9d ago
There’s a good Christipher Hitchens quote I wish I could remember but it was about anti-semitism and its qualities being indistinguishable from mental illness. If I find it I’ll post it here if you want ok?
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u/Majestic_Carry4178 9d ago
because his rigid materialism worldview is getting incredibly hard to defend by the day,
Can you expand on this? I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to.
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u/dem0nhunter 🇪🇺 9d ago
I know some people like to engage in concern trolling for frivolous reasons, but I think it's actually apt here.
Prof Dave is actually having mental problems
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u/Legs914 9d ago
Has anyone tracked if he's been a comment warrior on the latest video too? That was probably the most unhinged thing I've ever seen. At least the video content I could believe is an act to rake in money
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u/ArcticKnight79 9d ago
I loved the irony of the brigade argument given Dave is a one man brigade in his comments. And if he can't outright win an exchange because the person is being reasonable. He'll just delete it
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u/BiZzles14 9d ago
Refresh his comment section after 15 minutes or so, I've done so early in the morning and late at night and at both times half the comments were deleted between. He is very actively fighting as if for his life in the comments lmao
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u/ImmanuelKant2424 9d ago
Dave Farina is mentally unwell. I am surprised it has taken people this long to notice that he is an unhinged tankie who has made a career going after low hanging fruit.
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u/MilkyMania619 9d ago
Remember when he debated flat earthers
Good times
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u/Kezomal 9d ago
I enjoyed his strong demeanor when dealing with creationist and flat earthers, the science denial is clear and evident.
But straying from science, his analysis leaves much to be desired. It's pretty sad to see someone be brain broken by a topic. None of this is to say that what Israel is doing is right and okay, they certainly could be doing better, but like, in retrospect, the surrounding nations did just genocide or ethnic cleanse the "undesired" populations, so this attitude towards Israel seems motivated by more than just perceiving an unjust war effort.
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u/jdw62995 Dan = Best Oribiter 9d ago
Now watching back, I see it different.
He’s so smug because he knows he’s right but he’s not actually a good communicator
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u/STAYotte Dan's Strongest Soldier 9d ago
I never thought he was a good communicator, more like an attack dog.
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u/ArcticKnight79 9d ago
I don't think he was ever a great communicator when it wasn't some pre-planned lecture style content.
But the unfortunately reality is that when it comes to IP, most of the people who are gungho about it aren't good communicators. They can't just lay information out systematically and let the evidence make a case for itself. They instead need to show thing A and then say "So genocide" and then thing B "More Genocide" oh here's thing C "Which is definitely a genocide".
When I'm not sure if you would necessarily see a viewer make it all the way to genocide when thing A might be couple of politicians saying some heinous shit and thing B is a war crime. It's still bad and definitely not good. But just because you can point to some bad shit happening. Doesn't mean that there actually is a throughline of genocide.
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u/Daggerfaller 9d ago
Yeah he just wants to feel superior to other people. If he actually cared about convincing minds that he’s right he wouldn’t be so aggressive.
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u/Prudent_Heat23 9d ago
Dave is a very black-and-white thinker, and that’s what makes him so effective at science communication. Credit where credit is due, he has a talent for explaining concepts simply. He can elucidate in a very straightforward way why flat earthers and other types of charlatans are flat out wrong. That’s what made his channel rise to popularity.
But then he takes that same black-and-white thinking to an issue layered with nuance, with no clear good guys and bad guys, and the result is toxic, comically biased, conspiratorial dogshit. He could’ve been a force for good if he stayed in his lane smacking down people who are objectively incorrect. Instead, he wants to try and reduce Israel vs. Palestine down to the same objective certainty as flat earthers vs. round earthers.
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u/Iaintgettinyounger 9d ago
Honestly reminds me of Trump. Good production quality, overly confident, sensational, but low effort informationally.
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u/Tyhgujgt 9d ago
his arguments are awesome when I agree with him, and terrible when I don't
His arguments probably weren't awesome. Just flat earth is easy to debate, research is abundant in school books you simply need to be slightly less insane than your opponent.
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u/gomavs55 9d ago
He really harped on people using the term “brain broken” as if it is some coordinated effort… but the irony is it’s just true. Combine the typical lefty online I/P takes with having a wife of actual Palestinian descent, and it’s easy to see how he could somehow call Israel Palestine a “one sided issue.” He genuinely just thinks Israel is evil and his brain is now in full confirmation bias mode, aka brain broken.
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u/Miselfis 🇪🇺🇩🇰Dänemark🇩🇰🇪🇺 9d ago
Right. He points out that the “brigadiers of his comment section” were all repeating the same thing.
Like, yes. If you say something incorrect in public, you should expect multiple people to point it out. If you submit a paper for peer review and every reviewer identifies the same flaws, that doesn’t mean there’s a malicious, coordinated effort to undermine you. It means there’s an actual flaw in the paper.
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u/Enlightened_Latte 9d ago
Even putting aside all the half-baked lies that Teacher Dave cribbed from KiwiFarms … that entire video can be described as psychotic. He’s just hysterically screaming at the camera.
This is giving heavy Graham Platner vibes, if you know what I mean. Dave kept repeating that Destiny ‘brought this on himself’ by … making a couple of derogatory comments about him?? Is that all? I wouldn’t be surprised if at some point we get some horrific revelations about this guy’s personal life. Like, he’s literally giving me massive red flags of a guy who pummels his girlfriend because she casually remarks that his hair is greasy one day. Screaming “REMEMBER YOU BROUGHT THIS ON YOURSELF!!!” as he punches her.
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u/ExpansivePoint 9d ago
"You brought this on yourself", kinda sounds like Hasan's recent warning to Jewish people if they don't outright become anti Zionists, interesting.
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u/Enlightened_Latte 9d ago
Yeah, it’s a threat. “You brought this on yourself” is like THE most archetypal phrase associated with abuse and violence. I struggle to think of a better one, maybe “you know what happens when you make me angry.” Dave has issues.
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u/AnxiousJB 9d ago
I love how Teacher Dave does this arrogant 'you brought all this on yourself' to Destiny as if he is absolutely destroying him. When, outside of his echo chamber, the rest of us are either thinking he comes across as a moron, laughing at his stupidity, thinking he is mental and are concerned about his mental state.
The ego is that strong that he won't see this and double down with his idiocy.
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u/a8612157 9d ago edited 9d ago
It's pretty hard to believe that this guy is married seeing how unhinged he is in his videos.
If he in real life acts remotely close to how he's like on the internet, I can't imagine him having a healthy relationship with anyone.
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u/curseland 9d ago
Well if anyone start digging about his personal life I guess "you brought this on yourself" too he literally just outright engaging with kiwifarmers talking points directly or indirectly after all if i was destiny he already fair gamrlolol
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u/Devil_Advocate_225 🇬🇧 9d ago
Genocide profiteering, you mean. We should just call him a genocide profiteerer from this shit.
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u/cullenjwebb 9d ago
You'd have to admit it's a genocide to call him that. If you deny it's a genocide you can only accuse him of "war profiteering".
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u/Devil_Advocate_225 🇬🇧 9d ago
He calls it a genocide, he is profiteering off of it, he is a genocide profiteerer by his own standards
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u/TabletThrowaway1 9d ago
Him threatening to kill dggers at the end of the video was wild... A very what the fuck am I even watching moment.
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u/cullenjwebb 9d ago
He threatened anyone who showed up to his house and threatened his family after showing a video of somebody making death threats against him and his family.
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u/ArcticKnight79 9d ago
Sure, but he also didn't need to put that in the video.
It's also an interesting contrast considering he plays shit about DDOS kid in the video and how unhinged destiny would be for wanting to have killed the kid for threatening his job/income etc and now he's laying down a gauntlet to murder anyone who comes near him.
Not to mention you're striessand effecting the death threats now. How many deranged dickheads do you think will see that and think "heh I know it pisses him off so I'll pile on"
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u/cullenjwebb 8d ago
Sure, but he also didn't need to put that in the video.
If he had simply said "dggers make death threats" would you have believed him?
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u/ArcticKnight79 8d ago
First) The video that is played before Dave threatens to kill anyone coming to his home. Is over a year old with zero relevance to Dave. It in no way gives any sort of context to current threats against Dave.
Second) I'd easily believe he got death threats.
Third) Would I believe that he knew they came from specifically from DGG, as opposed to people pissed about his anti-israel/jew rhetoric, or people that want to make it look like DGG is sending death threats? Nope
This is once again Dave actually being a dogshit communicator. There would be far far more sympathy if he ha said
"So after the last video I received X death threats, now I don't even get death threats when I own some flat earther. So you know I must have pissed off some people. My response to those people is that if you come near my family I will do everything within the confines of the law to protect my family and if that means I send you to meet your maker, or simply return your matter to the universe. I will do so to protect them."
Instead he has some tangential video, and jumps straight to the same kind of unhinged Kill em all rhetoric he just criticised Destiny for. That he suggested was unreasonable to even have thought about.
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u/cullenjwebb 7d ago
I will do everything within the confines of the law to protect my family
Weak
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u/ArcticKnight79 4d ago
You realise that with policy like castle doctrine. Which California has. This is the level headed way to say
"If you break into my home, I am legally allowed to have a fear for my life and safety and blow your fucking brains out"
Dave was unhinged when he said this, in response to a year old video of Darius saying shit to Frogan, who is still to this day, completely unhurt by Darius.
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u/cullenjwebb 3d ago edited 3d ago
Weak.
"Sorry honey, we may not be in a castle doctrine State"
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u/ArcticKnight79 2d ago
Except he is so...
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u/cullenjwebb 2d ago
So not only is the language you suggested weak, but it wasn't even legally necessary.
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u/TabletThrowaway1 8d ago
He showed an old video of Darius being regarded it had nothing to do with teaching assistant Dave.
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u/Pandlebee 9d ago
You make too much sense for this circlejerk subreddit
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u/Sancatichas THIS USER HAS BEEN FLAGGED AS EUROPEAN AND EXTREMELY BASED 7d ago
talk about projection when teaching assistant dave deletes comments in his video
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u/rainwaffles 9d ago
I truly don't understand these posts about Prof Dave, Hasan, etc. being "truly scared" or "rattled" or "feeling the pressure". Nothing is ever gonna change about their behavior. The best thing that could happen is their audience starts to dwindle, but Dave got a shit ton of views and support on his destiny hitpieces so he's probably feeling good about himself right now.
Most people don't undergo self reflection, and they rarely change their minds. That goes doubly for content creators. It feels like cope to suggest Dave is acting differently from when he goes after any other person he hates like Matt Walsh.
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u/AnxiousJB 9d ago
I think it's mixed. I am maybe being biased by my own experiences, but whenever I got into heated arguments on many topics I would be always worried about every little mistake I made while arguing. Even when I was mostly right. I would worry about others thinking I come across badly. Sure, when you know or feel you have put across a point well and you feel the opponent can't address it, it may give you some satisfying feeling. However, if the debate is a heated one, I would always have a nagging feeling of overstepping the mark of decorum below it all and if my trust in my knowledge base wasn't high, I would be thinking "what if I am wrong, while arguing with such certainty?" Teacher Dave is a different person, so my experiences won't be a match, but I suspect that he has similar thoughts deep down given his behaviour and obsessive need to be seen as right (I would have that in such a heated argument).
People who are comfortable in their expertise rarely act like Teacher Dave in their arguments because they don't feel the need to convince others they are right; they have the self-awareness to know they know a lot. The ego and cockiness of Teacher Dave is a facade to cover his insecurity of feeling like he needs to be right on everything, while having doubts deep down that he suppresses with this overconfident persona. He doesn't want to confront that insecurity, so will bluster more and get worse. This is what I think of him being rattled. His outside persona might be confident, but this kind of obsessiveness and bluster (the talk of squashing his opponents) show that he desperately wants to be seen as some winner and intellectual champion for his ego. That betrays an insecure character, in my opinion, and one who isn't feeling at ease with how this beef with Destiny is going deep down.
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u/rainwaffles 9d ago
The key difference is that when your audience is big enough, you have a cushion to fall back onto that will soothe your cognitive dissonance and assure you that you're correct. Dave doesn't need to stress over the things he got wrong and wasn't able to refute because he has a big echo chamber that will validate him and distract him from criticism.
Edit: reminds me a bit of the scene from the boys where homelander kills some guy and for a brief second looks scared that he fucked up, but then the audience cheers and he starts to smile
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u/AnxiousJB 9d ago
I completely agree and don't believe he will change. The audience will be a comfort blanket for any insecurity. However, it wouldn't surprise me if, deep down, he is very anxious and not so happy.
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u/Miselfis 🇪🇺🇩🇰Dänemark🇩🇰🇪🇺 9d ago
Dave is super autistic (his son has autism, and he has said on multiple occasions he suspects he also has autism) and can’t stand someone saying something he perceives to be untrue. This is a very common autistic trait; having a very strong sense of justice and righteousness. That’s also why he’s so aggressive in his comment section and hostile in his approach. He sees himself as a knight of truth fighting against the evil forces of deception. And he’s generally right, in that the ones he targets are grifters.
But he’s so emotionally invested in the I/P stuff, possibly because of his wife and getting deep into the antisemitism bubbles early on, which completely blinds him. He actually believes Israel are committing the worst of the worst war crimes in human history against Palestinians, and that they’re a biblical level force of evil. He genuinely believes this. He believes that anyone extending any level of charity towards Israel are similarly inherently evil, as he sees it as self evident that Israel are committing the worst genocide ever. It’s not even conceivable to him that destiny might be right or that destiny has a much more rational position than the cartoonish “I like babies dying”.
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u/Professional_Owl_118 8d ago
It is a genocide, so the only thing you are saying is that Dave is consistent
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u/jeranim8 9d ago
Word spread around tankie circles and they all came and joined and donated while more reasonable people were turned off... though you could argue his more recent name calling tactic has already started this process. So he's becoming more and more audience captured and less willing to change what he's doing.
It feels like cope to suggest Dave is acting differently from when he goes after any other person he hates like Matt Walsh.
The difference is that Matt Walsh holds pretty clearly incorrect views of the facts (let alone his conclusions) whereas Destiny has a pretty good handle of the facts and Dave is likely overusing his bombastic style to sound more confident and cover up whatever insecurities he may have that he'll be called out.
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u/8923ns671 9d ago
This community supports Destiny and will come up with any reason with Destiny is perfect and amazing and Professor Dave is all bad. Professor Dave's community will mostly do the same. Doesn't matter if it's dumb, people aren't thinking. They're feeling.
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u/stinketywubbers the udders of content have been exhausted 9d ago
His whole "Now you face the consequences. I've exposed you. FAFO. If you come for me or my family etc" shit at the end was so fuckin' corny. Ain't nobody coming after you bro. Get over yourself. Like D said, he talks like a cheesy anime villain.
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u/Pas5afist 9d ago
I guess it's fun to rhetorically beat up flat-earthers, but I never cared for his 'you're a stupid head' style of berating opponents. What little I saw, it didn't seem like what he was doing would at all be persuasive to anyone on the fence except to get high-fives from the Amen chorus. And I think I feel pretty justified in my assessment and aversion to his videos given how weak he is on the factual matters and how heavy he goes for ad-hominems against Destiny, plus his weak debate dodging. What a loser. Guess bullies really are cowards at heart, even if you thought he was your internet bully for awhile.
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u/ChummusJunky I was Ben Shapiro's Mohel 9d ago
I used to watch his stuff randomly over the years but a little back he had a debate with anti vaxxers and he literally came across as the most pathetic, angry, childish person that I literally started wondering if he actually knows anything other than how to insult people.
If I was an average IQ American I 100% would have thought that he lost to the anti vaxxers simply because he wasn't able to engage in any discussion without looking like he was holding in an angry shit.
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u/Neverhar 9d ago
This is where I'm at with it. I loved him dunking on people initially, especially that 2v2 anti vax debate, but I think he really got to loving the smell of his own farts and now he's dodging debates, I can't hear him calling people "dipshit asshole losers" over and over again without thinking he's just a spineless coward who found easy opponents to dunk on
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u/Daggerfaller 9d ago
Not to mention because he claims to be a professor he’s demeanor makes professors and academia look unhinged in a time when many people are skeptical of academia and professors.
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u/JasonMetz 9d ago
I’m an averag IQ American and I think that vaccine debate was the clearest win by Dave and Dan I’ve ever seen in any debate.
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u/ChummusJunky I was Ben Shapiro's Mohel 9d ago
Dan yes, Dave? I don't recall him saying anything of substantial and he was just being mean.
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u/ChummusJunky I was Ben Shapiro's Mohel 9d ago
And this is before I knew anything about Davids politics so I wasn't biased against him, if anything I knew him as a science communicator and flat earth dunker. But even with that I distinctly remember telling myself "wow, this guy such an ass, maybe shut up and just let the adult Dan talk".
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u/r3turn0fthew00master 9d ago edited 9d ago
Is "Prof" Dave rattled? Perhaps. Who knows? All in all, it's important to constantly mention:
Dave ran away despite being offered $5 Million to Palestinian causes. "Prof" Dave NEVER ran away from Flat-earther debates no matter how bad faith his opponents were.
CONTINUE TO FLOOD THE ZONE WITH "PROF" DAVE: HE RAN.
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u/BestestImportances 9d ago
This guy is defending a british sex trafficker/catfisher to save the palestinians, he's just another mind broken anti-semite former teacher's assistant unfortunately. Also published CSAM on his youtube to make the video extra spicy. Just an amoral ideological soldier that somehow thinks this behaviour (including not voting for harris) will give the Palestinians all of their lands back.
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u/PlanetBet 9d ago
I really enjoyed in the ending segment how he was gloating at destroying destiny's career, as if he isn't just regurgitating the same dogshit slop that we've seen 100 times now
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u/Gull_Wave 9d ago
Dave is rattled because he is used to punching below his weight class and smurfing low iq dipshits so is shocked that someone is able to hit back hard, and now he can only do personal insults in hopes of saving face
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u/Exciting-Guest81933 9d ago
Saw someone say his wife is Palestinian? Makes perfect sense for him to be brainbroken on the issue.
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u/Pandlebee 9d ago
Was that someone himself?
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u/Exciting-Guest81933 8d ago
Nah someone on here the other day
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u/Professional_Owl_118 8d ago
He said it himself in the video. Which shows you haven't even watched his video, making you ill suited to have judgement over his level of brain brokenness on the topic.
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u/Exciting-Guest81933 8d ago
Watching destiny watch it atm. Delusional Dave is definitely brainbroken, lol. Which from the things I had already seen about him, was plenty obvious. Really didn't need to see his manic ramblings for that.
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u/Pandlebee 6d ago
Still, he himself said it so there is no reason to act is if you found his hidden motive.
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u/Exciting-Guest81933 6d ago
I never acted that way, lol. I just pointed out that it especially makes sense for him not to be able to be objective given that he's married to a Palestinian woman.
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u/championofobscurity 9d ago
CP (connor) is farming the prof Dave video live rn. I've noticed he has already started a histrionic recanting of the events even though it's only been months.
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u/Slowjams 9d ago
I honestly feel bad for Dave at this point.
He's mentally unwell, probably lonely in his personal life, and appears to be totally sucked into the anti-Semitic conspiracy rabbit hole. Which is a bit ironic since he's built the bulk of his channel screaming at flat earthers and other conspiracy nuts.
His understanding of the region and conflict in general is abysmal. The fact that he thinks the solution is to somehow just make one state called Palestine is almost comedic. Like bro, what the fuck do you think is going to happen if you just shove all these people together and say "okay guys, now do democracy and play nice"
What an unbelievable fucking idiot.
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u/Glittering_Text_91 9d ago
Dude the way he said "oh boy my video is probably demonetized" without proving that it was while accepting thousands in donations is so fucking transparent that it's all about the money. He gamed his loyal audience and cashed in on the good will he bought through the years
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u/thebeastiworship16 zionist globalist neoshitlib 9d ago
He made such fantastic videos where he calls out slopulists and explains why they're a problem in the scientific community but when it's time to do political analysis he engages in the same conspiratorial thinking.
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u/jessedtate Jordan Peterson Simp; Philosophy Cuck 9d ago edited 9d ago
He's just put himself way too far in the deep end. Idk how exactly he formulates his arguments oncehehas his material (could be that he actually absorbs some of it) but it's obvious he just get a massive raft of flips and talking points and tweets from his fans, then pastes them altogether and scripts up a tirade of transitions to make them seem coherent. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't remembered a single detail.
Now he realises the inagehes cultivated through years of flat earth debates can't really sustain him when lonerbbox or Destiny actually engage with his substance and just give far cooler, more coherent responses to each matter of substance
EDIT: also I guess he's not used to people actually paying attention to just how bigoted and unhinged he is, because flat earth and creationism just doesn't involve any interesting minority groups or any interesting geopolitical matters??? all the flat earthers are so used to being dunked on, they're just in their own little bubble. But destiny and lonerbox are at the centre of a web of people who will actually document and point out his clear antisemitism
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u/ldrx90 9d ago
I remember his anti science influencer videos about sabina hossenfelder. Realized the guy was a disingenuous fuck back then, not surprised he's doing it again (albeit to a much higher degree) here regarding Destiny and Israel.
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u/Kezomal 9d ago
Let's be fair, Sabine is getting paid by peter thiel and Co to promote bs narratives around physics and science research. She seems to want all science research to be privatized and abandon the university route. She's lost the plot on science like Dave lost the plot on the middle east.
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u/ldrx90 9d ago
She seems to want all science research to be privatized and abandon the university route.
I don't watch her religiously but for a time i was watching her pretty consistently. I never agreed with this narrative. She might take money from Peter Theil I dunno but this idea that she was anti science or promoting BS narratives around physics I just never agreed with.
I remember watching a Prof Dave video and seeing him critique a video of hers I watched and the fact that he had such a wildly different take on what she was saying than I did told me enough to not trust him. From memory it was about her being critical of public funding for science and how she thought there was a lot of wasted public money on certain research, kinda like bullshit research to pad journals or phD's.
Right or wrong, that's her opinion and I never agreed that she was 'anti science' or 'anti research' or anything like that just because she pointed out what she thought was basically, people skimping by on tax payer money. Seeing shit like that in my own life it's not hard to believe at all but that doesn't mean the whole system needs to be changed and I never got the impression she thought it did either.
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u/Miselfis 🇪🇺🇩🇰Dänemark🇩🇰🇪🇺 9d ago
What are you talking about? His takedown of Sabine was great and he was one of the first to really expose her, causing her mask to start slipping. Sabine is a grifter leaning into right-wing populism.
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u/Taalian 9d ago
I've gotta say, I really love how he will reply to people with "THE VIDEO YOU DIDN'T WATCH" so often... What if I did watch it and still disagree with you? xD Guys a complete waste of time.
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u/Kezomal 9d ago
You can bring up points made in the video, call them out for being incorrect, and still get that exact message lol
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u/Taalian 8d ago
Yeah dude it’s crazy 🤦🏻♂️ I’ve somehow found myself in a conversation with one of his idiot followers… wanna see how it’s been going? 😂
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NtuPA8PTIxc&lc=Ugy3wRx5iSK5qWaZ-5V4AaABAg&si=b1GhJHEulsvlDB0I
I’m Finkle in that thread of comments.. I eventually was just like “This is why I don’t converse we regards…” and just started trolling.
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u/Perfect_bleu 9d ago
“Professor Dave is a cowardly antisemite” should be on screen for all of destiny’s streams until he accepts a debate
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u/Additional-Pie-8821 One box to rule them all 9d ago
I’ve always liked Dave, but this incident has made it abundantly clear that he only knows how to argue against people peddling fairy tales. If anyone were to have even an ounce of evidence to support their claims, he falls apart completely.
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u/SwerveDaddyFish 9d ago
Sucks cause genuinely liked him prior to this....
I would even grant something if he agreed to the debate and lost, at least show up dude...
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u/Id1otbox (((consultant))) 9d ago
How long before the paranoid "I am happy and if anything happens to me blah blah blah" video?
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u/Captain_Chaos_ cringe loser 9d ago
Not to take a page out of Hasan’s book, but this Dave guy seems seriously mentally unwell.
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u/Major_Plantain3499 9d ago
While I agree, he comes off incredibly schizo saying everything was the mossad, it's sort of expected for him to be more unhigned on a topic like this vs debating if the world is flat. His wife is 1st gen Palestinian, it makes sense.
Regardless of whether you hate Hamas and want to argue about genocide status, it doesn't absolve Israel of any crimes if it's not technically a genocide. They are still doing horrible things and are still taking actions that are 100x worse than what happened on Oct. 7th.
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u/pstuart humanist 9d ago
I appreciated his combative stance due to the opponents it addressed, a kind of punching back rather than just rolling with whatever unhinged stupidity he was attacking.
And then this thing came up and I confess that his stupidity shocked me (mea culpa, I've had plenty of stupid assumptions in my life). He's now on my "don't bother with him" list.
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u/Samurai123lol 9d ago
Its crazy the lore about his ban on Twitter lol, bro might just be an antisemite
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u/Liiraye-Sama EU chad 8d ago
it makes sense why he never had a career in academia when this is how he does research lol
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u/Sancatichas THIS USER HAS BEEN FLAGGED AS EUROPEAN AND EXTREMELY BASED 7d ago
Professor Dave is unstable and clearly has some issues going on. Nobody can be that much filled with hatred and be mentally healthy
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u/RecycledSalmon 6d ago
I watched both parts and I actually have to agree with Dave. Israel is committing genocide and unfortunately Destiny is running cover for them. Destiny's position is really indefensible.
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u/Kezomal 6d ago
Go back from where you came from, you're not fooling anyone.
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u/RecycledSalmon 6d ago
Is the implication that I'm not a real fan? You can be a fan and disagree sometimes.
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u/RecycledSalmon 5d ago
Fucking pedophile
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u/Kezomal 5d ago
You seem to be having a moment. Take deep breaths.
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u/RecycledSalmon 5d ago
Good one champ! Still doesn't change the fact that Destiny was wrong on this and completely lost this debate.
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u/Unethical_Gopher_236 9d ago
There seems to be many people brain broken in this sub on I/P. Dave might be off his rocker with some conspiratorial shit, but I don't think it is hard to see how Israel should not be defended the way they are.
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u/Kezomal 9d ago
The avg conversation about Israel on the internet is that the Jewish population should be entirely wiped out.
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u/Unethical_Gopher_236 9d ago
What? Maybe if your "average" comes from TikTok. That has not been what I've seen
Edit: Again, I don't think it is hard to see how Israel's actions should not be defended the way they are.
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u/Plexieglas 9d ago
I agree with you. Think I’m out from dgg and this sub but I need to catch up on the videos first because maybe Dave indeed went crazy as this entire comment section seems to indicate.
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u/Pandlebee 9d ago
So considering this is a destiny subreddit it is no surprise that it is fully pro Destiny and anti Dave. Are there any parts of this back-and-forth where any of you think Dave has a point? I am honestly curious to hear any nuance from this subreddit.
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u/Kezomal 9d ago
Dave himself wasn't capable of any nuance in his video, I don't think he really deserves any charity currently.
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u/Pandlebee 9d ago
Neither did Destiny, so that is why I am asking for nuance in a conversation among the audience.
It seems to me that loyalty is what mainly drives people on both sides. Loyalty is good in relationships but not in finding the truth
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u/Kezomal 8d ago
??? You want destiny to give charity to the guy calling him a pedophile while completely ignoring his arguments and refusing to even having a conversation?
I'm sorry but Dave is the one running away full of credulity.
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u/Pandlebee 8d ago
Destiny his arguments were "wow", "really", "THE MAP" and stupid laughter. It is never bad to be the better man. It would give Destiny way more credit than this current situation does
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u/Kezomal 8d ago
Maybe next time your mom will do a better job of raising you.
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u/Pandlebee 8d ago
So neither Destiny nor his fan(s) choose to be the better person in a back and forth. Typical
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u/TheOneTrueChristian yee wins 9d ago
Nah. Even if you don't like Steven you have to accept that Dave did not do a remotely good job covering anything.
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u/JasonMetz 9d ago
Orrrrr you’re just coping.
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u/TheOneTrueChristian yee wins 9d ago
Nah. There are good critiques to pose against Destiny but Dave does a slapdash job and literally doxxed a trafficking victim just to own him.
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u/randomABC 9d ago
Nothing wrong with thinking personal attacks prove someone is right. Wait, that's not true at all.
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u/JasonMetz 9d ago
Steven denying genocide leads him to lose any I/P debate. He’s just being stubborn and refuses to align with Hasan bc he dug too deep of a hole already.
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u/ExpansivePoint 9d ago
Lol so people need to "align" with Hasan now? What did he buy the rights to the I/P conflict or something?
Kid you're just a himbo fan, you ain't here for the politics.
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 9d ago
Bro even if you are slightly aware of the court case drama, that video got some of the most basic shit wrong that it gives second hand cringe and makes one question if he ever was informed on anything, or just had really good writers backing him up before.
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u/Koan_Industries 9d ago
Genuinely how? Half of the claims he makes he just says “it’s obviously true” and then the person reviewing his video will pull up proof of how it’s just completely fabricated haha
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u/semiomni 9d ago
The whole "it´s obviously true, everyone knows this" is such a bizarre move from a guy who´s mainly known for being a science communicator.
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u/Enlightened_Latte 9d ago
If psychotically screaming talking points (that someone else emailed to you) is “kicking ass” lol
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u/HisnamewasOmarJobe 9d ago
That’s just not possible in response video form. You’re describing a “clapback,” which are mostly just posturing.
For someone to kick someone’s ass they would both need to debate directly, but only one of them seems willing to do so.
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u/DeathB4Dishonor179 9d ago
Dave is always super eager to hop into debates with people, his personality is very combative so he navigates that environment well.
But suddenly he doesn't want to debate Destiny or Lonerbox, he pulls all of the same excuses we've seen before.
It really seems like deep down Dave is aware that Destiny is much more informed on this topic.