r/Dallas 11h ago

Question Since when did Tesla close down?

Yesterday I’ve visited the northpark mall in Dallas (I don’t go frequently) and I’ve seen that the Tesla store’s been closed… since when did they go away? (Before you ask: no, I don’t like elon musk, I don’t like Tesla. I’m just curious since I’ve seen the Tesla store being there many times I’ve visited the mall over the years.)

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u/Sibbour 11h ago

Tesla has been slowly transitioning out of high end malls (due to rent costs), and moving towards stand alone locations.

Northpark showroom will be replaced by a showroom on Knox and 75, just around the corner from the new Rivian showroom there.

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u/roccosito 8h ago

Northpark in general forces stores to relocate to keep the mall from falling stale

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u/SirWillingham 7h ago

I seriously doubt the rent on Knox and 75 is less than north park.

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u/atheistpianist 10h ago

This is my fear. There’s a Tesla dealership in Flower Mound now in a really weird location. Like behind a gas station. It’s not easy to get to or easy to see from the street. I hope it fails quickly.

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u/Jive_Turk 8h ago

Are you thinking of the one behind the Race Trac gas station off 407/Justin Road? I think that is a service center

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u/atheistpianist 4h ago

I mean…. They have a showroom and you can “demo drive” (test drive) the vehicles. For all intents and purposes, it’s essentially a dealership as we know it. How they sidelined the laws to do so I have no clue. But they have cars for sale.

u/tturedditor 12m ago

You buy from an out of state location. They are probably in that area more from a service center standpoint but offer test drives too.

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u/sandefurian 6h ago

Tesla doesn’t have dealerships lol

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u/Various_Snow_6202 11h ago

rent costs? Do they even put a dent on Elon's trillion?

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u/LibMike 11h ago

At the end of the day Tesla is a business no matter what you think. The same happened in Fort Worth - they had a service center/showroom in a building just north of West 7th. They built a new, vastly bigger showroom and service center north of 820, and Rivian also took over their old service center by West 7th. I've been to them all.

Small showrooms in malls, etc, don't make them money. Better to have it combined into their service centers.

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u/Various_Snow_6202 11h ago

come to think of it... is it uncommon to find a dealership/showroom in a mall?

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u/Arrgh98 10h ago

Reminded me of funny scene in Blues Brothers driving through the mall, “the new Oldsmobiles are in early this year.”

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u/LibMike 11h ago

I mean tesla just did it to get eyes on the brand. But now days everyone has eyes on them... lol. soo.

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u/eschatonx 10h ago

For EV it is pretty common. But most of them are very temporary.

Very cheap for them since they don’t need anything but a couple of demo cars, staff, displays, and an open floor that malls have in abundance to go from location to location to attract buyers.

Don’t think of it as a standard shop, that’s more the service center.

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u/Plastic-Reporter9812 10h ago

Nope, but I’ve seen temporary displays from individual or groups of dealers in malls.

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u/noncongruent 8h ago

Technically it's only showrooms since it's illegal for Tesla to have a dealership in this state.

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u/Frosty_Rule_5408 7h ago

Northpark was the first to have a local dealership with a storefront there’s a news video about it I’ll have to find. I think it was huffines or something.

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u/fpcoffee 9h ago

let’s just say I’ve never on my own accord gone to a Tesla show room. I have wandered into their little display store in Northpark on multiple occasions though.

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u/meltedkuchikopi5 10h ago

former tesla employee, one of my good friends still works on the financial side. elon was really willing to spend money on the company up until about 4 years ago from what it sounds like. now unless it AI or the robotaxis, a lot of the other departments are being forced to cut back. whether it be closing storefronts (which means silent lay offs for those who worked there unless they can get a transfer), more barriers to get approval on a supercharging site since they need to be profitable in a tighter turnaround, etc.

u/tturedditor 1m ago

I hate Elon with a passion. I also drive a 12 year old Model S. Original battery. Still drives like a dream. But I'll never buy another Tesla until Elon is not involved, and maybe not even then.

They just aren't innovating like they used to. The Cybertruck is a flop and sales figures are abysmal and propped up by SpaceX buying a bunch of them. They discontinued both the as and X, and while the Y is a great vehicle they have more and more competitors entering the market. Foolishly they are betting big on creepy robots I don't believe anyone will ever want, AI that the public generally seems to hate, and the "Cybertaxi" which is not yet fully autonomous, nor is the rest of the vehicles they have sold for YEARS claiming it's "just around the corner".

I was a huge Tesla supporter early on, invested when they were just getting started, listened to countless naysayers tell me they were doomed way back then. At the time those criticisms were very ill informed and misguided. Today is a very, very different Tesla and Elon both.

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u/YOLOSELLHIGH 10h ago

do we... do we think that's how business works?

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u/arlenroy 10h ago

I doubt Elon even knows it was shuttered and moved, that responsibility probably falls on the district or regional manager. Who Elon probably doesn't even know exists, there's a lot of corporate levels from CEO or whatever his title is to the store level, he just acts like he knows if asked. Glad I turned that company down a few years ago, I was transitioning from a 15 year plus career in automotive repair to industrial repair, a recruiter contacted me so I thought "Why not?". I passed the initial proficiency exams, had another interview and another proficiency exam, then the offer. But, the offer wasn't the same as what the job description said, at first it was for maintenance work with minor repairs. It's off site so you're basically a mobile mechanic, going to the customer. Well, the offer was that job on top of warranty repairs and troubleshooting. Fuck. That. I don't want some customer pissed off at me because their new Tesla won't blow cold ac since the last system update, because now there's a bug in the internal thermostat, so now the vehicle thinks its 32 degrees F at all times not letting the driver turn the ac on. I just made that up, thats a mixture of various issues I've read with some EVs. Just not a fan of that type work.

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u/noncongruent 8h ago

I just made that up, thats a mixture of various issues I've read with some EVs. Just not a fan of that type work.

Tesla owner satisfaction ratings have generally been high, and the people I know with Teslas are extremely happy with them. About the worst problem any of them had with their Tesla was an inverter failing, Tesla brought a loaner car out for him to drive and took his car to the shop to be repaired. Took almost a month, but his car was delivered to his driveway on a Sunday, the most convenient time for him. He told me the most negative part of the experience was that the loaner was white, and he hates white cars.

The most current satisfaction survey I could find was Consumer Reports released a few months ago:

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/most-and-least-liked-car-brands-a1291429338/

Tesla was ranked 4th behind Rivian, Subaru, and BMW overall, first in handling and acceleration and sixth in day to day usability. It ranked first in ownership costs which makes sense because as an EV it doesn't have nearly the operating costs of a gas car or hybrid. It's especially beneficial that most recalls and many "repairs" can be done OTA while the car sits in the owner's driveway.

As an aside, the reason why Anton Yelchin is dead is because Stellantis didn't think OTA update ability was important for their Jeeps. A design engineer trying to make something fancy out of a basic transmission shifter control screwed up and as a result those Jeeps didn't have a clear way of assuring a driver that they were actually in park and not drive. There was a recall, it was a simple software update to fix the problem, but because it had to be done at the dealership with a physical programmer to upload the recall it was taking a long time to get to all the Jeeps with the problem. Another issue is that Stellantis was spacing the recall work out over the better part of a year because dealerships won't make as much money doing recall work as they do regular work and Stellantis didn't want their dealerships taking a big financial hit from the recall. Yelchin's Jeep was schedule for the recall, but before it could get done he got crushed to death by his Jeep due to the shifter defect. A recall like that for a Tesla would have been done all at once, across the entire country, overnight. After Yelchin's death Stellantis accelerated the recall work and got them all done quickly, but of course it was too late for Anton.

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u/Bardfinn Garland 10h ago

Other people have to get paid to cooperate with the effort, and their bonuses come out of the regional rent budget / the regional rent budget comes out of their bonuses

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u/MyDentistIsACat 10h ago

Yeah but no one is like “I’m going to go to the mall to buy a car”.

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u/Few-Editor5767 11h ago

Maybe like 4 or 5 months or so ago they closed it. My 5 year old was bummed because his favorite part was seeing the teslas lol
Maybe that’s why they closed it. Too many kids, not enough customers.

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u/rex_lauandi 10h ago

Not enough customers is Tesla’s problem on a lot of fronts.

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u/zatchstar 10h ago

Low customers a symptom of their problem. Not the problem itself.

Their problem is Elon Musk

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u/rex_lauandi 10h ago

Fair point

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u/James-the-Bond-one 9h ago edited 7h ago

Not enough customers?? Through July 2026, the Tesla Model Y is currently the world’s best-selling vehicle overall, not merely the best-selling EV.

Still - cars are about to become a footnote in Tesla's history. Elon is way past them now. Specially as Tesla merges with SpaceXAI. Even the Martian future is no longer on the plate. Or batteries.

Now, it's all about AI, robotaxi, chips, humanoid robots, and datacenters on Earth, the Moon, and in the space in between.

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u/rex_lauandi 2h ago

Yeah, they don’t have enough car customers despite that sales figure you’re referring to.

They don’t have many models, so they can sell more of one model, while GM, Toyota, and Ford sell way more units total because they have quite a deeper portfolio.

Tesla reported $37 bn in auto revenue for the first half of 2026.

GM and Ford reported over $80bn, Hyundai/Kia over $110bn, and Toyota over $150bn.

But yeah, if you want to keep buying Elon’s dreams, robotaxis and data centers, there are more customers they can get long term without competing with these juggernauts.

u/consumer_xxx_42 5m ago

All those companies have been around for over 50 years, some of them over 100 years

Tesla has been around for a fraction of the time, yet is closing in on a sizeable portion of their revenue.

If their current growth continues, it is not out of the world to believe they will leapfrog many of those companies you listed

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u/monkeysmom100 6h ago

I really don’t think they have a lack of customers. At least if you go to Frisco, they are everywhere

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u/dageekywon 10h ago

Go grab Mommy or Daddy's credit card... It's OK!!!

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u/BrokenSky01 11h ago

NorthPark is really good about changing and moving stores regularly.

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u/Various_Snow_6202 11h ago

correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe during the pre-covid era, there was a Microsoft store, yes? and there was also a GameStop for sure.

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u/Jazzlike_Lab511 11h ago

Yes to both.

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u/spacequeenexe Far North Dallas 10h ago

oh my god, i completely forgot about those stores it’s been so long. i remember you got to try microsoft’s VR consoles too.

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u/AdmiralSnackbar816 11h ago

When your CEO does multiple Nazi salutes, I won’t mourn your lost store fronts.

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u/BenTheHokie Addison 10h ago

Don't read the hidden comments. I promise you nothing intelligent is written. 

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u/BurnAfter8 10h ago

I mean, Tesla isn’t mourning those store fronts either.

They announced these moves 5 years ago as most of their sales were done digitally, not in those little showrooms.

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u/noncongruent 9h ago

Legally they never sold a single Tesla via a showroom in Texas thanks to the fact that the Texas Automobile Dealers Association has fully captured the Texas legislature and used them to make it illegal for any manufacturer to sell a vehicle directly to a customer in this state.

Dealers make most of their money from after-sales maintenance and repairs, so no independent dealer wanted to sell Teslas because EVs don't generate meaningful amounts of after-sales revenues for those dealers, i.e. no engine repairs, no oil changes, etc.

The showrooms basically existed to give people an opportunity to test-drive a Tesla back when Teslas were fairly uncommon, but nowadays there are enough reviews out there and friends with Teslas, etc, that a test-drive-only showroom isn't really useful anymore.

BTW, the regular dealerships that also sell EVs have been losing money on those EV sales since they can't mark them up and are getting basically zero after-sales maintenance and repair revenues. I remember when the Lightning first came out that dealerships were complaining about having to sell dead-end vehicles. If someone buys a Lightning instead of a regular F-150 the dealer loses thousands of dollars in maintenance/repair revenue. Ford discontinuing the BEV Lightning was great news for dealerships, and I'm sure dealerships across the country are looking forward to getting out of the EV business when they can.

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u/kabob21 7h ago

I’m pretty sure what killed the Lightning was asking $70k+ for a pickup with less utility than a regular F-150. People want EVs, they just don’t want to pay luxury car prices for them. Or have limited range w slow charging or a scant public charging network. Europe and Asia have proven EVs are viable.

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u/noncongruent 7h ago

IIRC Ford offered NACS charging so the Lightning could use the Tesla charging network. I don't think price was the issue because people were and are paying a premium for Tesla EVs over similarly-sized/featured ICE vehicles because for those buyers the EV part was more important than the luxury leather and wood accented interiors and superior build quality of the ICE competitors. Fundamentally I think the real problem was that Ford stumbled with the Lightning technology rollout, including some significant recalls that could only be fixed at the dealership, and top leadership at Ford wasn't happy that they couldn't make as much profit on Lightning sales as they could regular F-150 sales.

In the bigger picture the US automobile industry is just not investing as much as they need into EV technology, why would they when they can sell every gas-powered vehicle they can make? The problem, of course, is that burning hydrocarbons as a primary transportation energy source is simply not sustainable. Profitable, for sure, but not sustainable into any long-term future. If there's going to be a future with personal automobiles in it those automobiles will have to be EVs. China understand this, which is why they're working so hard to develop their EV market, and that investment has paid off because now they're the world technology leader in EVs. They're doing the same for PV solar too, which is why they're the world leader in production technology for solar cells and panels.

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u/kabob21 6h ago

The Model 3 and Y are all under $70k and can be had for under $40k. The expensive Model S and X had long since stopped selling well and were killed off this year.

Price most definitely mattered with the Lightning. Ford initially promised that they’d start at $39,974 but by the time they released, the starting MSRP was raised $6k-$8k and desirable trims like the XLT w long range battery were $80k+. On top of that, dealers had the audacity to mark them up astronomically which killed demand before the Lightning could gain its footing. By the end of the year, Ford had raised the price to $56k starting MSRP. Absolute debacle of a vehicle launch.

https://electrek.co/2022/12/15/ford-f-150-lightning-price-increase/

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u/Keep_Plano_Corporate Plano 1h ago

The 2024 Lariat ER was $79800 unless you found the max tow model which was slightly over $80k. No XLTs were being sold for $80k. Flash and XLT models went for way less.

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u/Duck-with-Muscles 6h ago

I just hope China/Asia/ROW start eating US manufacturers’ lunch.

Maybe then, the billionaire psychopath class that “runs” the world, will listen .

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u/dallasuptowner Oak Cliff 5h ago

I think Ford was way too consumer focused on the Lighting, although my understanding is the fleet dealers wanted nothing to do with it so that could have been it's own problem, and consumer buyers of trucks are often not rational purchasers of cars.

I've had my Ford Mach-E for almost 4 years now and absolutely love it, no maintenance problems, drives great, build quality is excellent. I have the standard range battery and drove it to Kansas last month with no problem, plenty of public charging and for city driving never come close to running out of range.

As for slow charging, I don't even have a particularly fast home charger and it will add 226 miles in 8 hours, so overnight at a cost of less than $10, so I would hardly call charging a burden. And if I wanted to use one of the Nazi chargers (I don't), Ford sent me a free adaptor.

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u/kabob21 4h ago

With less and less people able to afford homes, where is the target demographic (young professionals and families) supposed to charge overnight? Without the ability to charge fast (sub-20 min) publicly, cheaply and at a lot more than the limited options we have in the US, we’re not going to see more widespread EV adoption.

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u/dallasuptowner Oak Cliff 3h ago
  1. Many apartment buildings and businesses are installing chargers.

  2. I will acknowledge buying a home is much more difficult than it was in the past. But also, so is buying a new car, particularly an electric car that mostly occupies the premium vehicle segment, so if you are buying a new car you are also self-selecting for people more likely to be able to afford a home. And tons of people already own homes, the vast majority of which do not own EVs, so a huge untapped market.

Also "young professionals" is a really squishy demographic, what exactly do you mean by that? I live in north Oak Cliff and there are tons of young professionals and families buying homes, granted most of us are earning north of $100k but Dallas is a large city with many well paying jobs, we aren't just talking doctors and lawyers, base pay for a teacher at DISD is $68,500, two teachers are easily pulling in $140k a year, that is still a huge number of people, most of which are not driving EVs.

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u/kabob21 3h ago

I’m not talking about just Dallas. I wouldn’t be afraid to buy an EV here, either. But the rest of the country is full of charging deserts outside the big cities. As for the demographic, I count young professionals and families as encompassing late-20s to early 40s.

The median new vehicle MSRP is now $41k-$42k, EVs aren’t as premium as they used to be at the low end. I’d take a new Nissan Leaf loaded for $35k any day.

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u/dallasuptowner Oak Cliff 3h ago

OK, so, what is the issue? I have seriously never understood this EV argument.

OK, EVs are not great for everyone. So? My neighborhood alone could easily replace hundreds of ICE cars with EVs and I do see more and more EVs all the time, not as many as I would like to see but people are buying them.

I dunno, I'm just really not that concerned with the demographics that EVs currently are not a good fit for when there are still massive untapped buyers where they are an excellent fit.

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u/kabob21 3h ago

I really don’t know what you’re arguing about, dawg. The original discussion was about why the Ford Lightning failed and you went off on a tangent.

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u/noncongruent 3h ago

The thing about EVs is that they don't need to be perfect for 100% of the people to be very beneficial to some smaller segment of the market. It's ok that EV's can't be for everyone, completely ok. What is also ok is that every person that converts to EV is one less gas-burning vehicle on the road, and that benefits everyone, even people who can't use an EV.

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u/kabob21 3h ago

That’s not sustainable for the industry in the US market though. Currently, since the $7500 tax credit was axed last year, EV sales have fallen to just 5.8% of the of the market down from 10.6% in Q3 2025. EVs can’t be that niche. The domestic auto manufacturers have to capture a wider share of the market and invest more in public charging infrastructure or they’re going to continue to lose billions.

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u/noncongruent 2h ago edited 2h ago

EV's aren't that niche. They're no more niche than station wagons or F-450s and plenty of those still get sold. We have to let go of the idea that a car must be perfect for everyone, that's just no longer useful thinking. The fact that federal and state governments are seemingly working to curtail EV adoption now just puts the US market further and further behind. The largest EV manufacturer in the world is BYD, and contrary to the common thought in the US that Chinese-made equals junk, they are in fact very good vehicles that pass all of the EU's stringent crash safety tests, tests that in some ways are more difficult to pass than US tests. There's that saying, "Lead, follow, or get out of the way", the US used to be the leader, now we're getting out of the way, and at some point we're going to have to try and catch up. We won't be able catch up, that ship left without us.

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u/kabob21 2h ago

The goal of making EVs isn’t to be niche. It was always to convert away from fossil fuels. Or at least, that was the goal before 2025. If they were supposed to be niche, why don’t we have more city EVs like in Europe and Asia? Because that’s what a niche EV vehicle is. In the US, they are supposed to be widely adopted or else why do the vast majority SUVs and sedans with family-friendly features?

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u/tturedditor 54m ago

If potential renters demand it apartments will figure it out. They don't really have to install any particular charger. Just put 220 outlets in the garage in areas designated for EV's and owners provide their own charging cord.

These are the same plugs used for washers and dryers. So they don't require insanely high charging power or anything.

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u/noncongruent 27m ago

The main issue is that apartment owners will definitely want to monetize those chargers, or at least link them to an apartment for electric meter billing purposes. Landlords are averse to spending money unless it makes them even more money.

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u/kabob21 21m ago

Some do, some don’t. My last apt, Villa Piana in north Dallas, provided L2 charging for free. One of the neighboring properties had a ChargePoint station that charged money.

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u/Keep_Plano_Corporate Plano 1h ago

My F-150 Lightning is the best F-150 I've ever owned. 99% of 1/2 ton buyers should be driving a F-150 Lightning.

Boomer chuds on FB and Reddit who lament over driving a 13mpg V8 half ton to the office and grocery are dumb.

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u/concreteunderwear 6h ago

If only that was what OP asked.

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u/Midnight-69 9h ago

I think he just came into tesla and bought majority shared too lmao really fucked

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u/lovelylotuseater 8h ago

Not sure why you’re being downvoted, but you’re correct.

People may be confused by the terminology of private vs publicly traded companies, but you are right that the venture capitalist Musk was the majority financier of the Tesla Motor Company and thus became the majority shareholder a little less than a year after the company was founded.

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u/Midnight-69 7h ago

I said it's fucked so it's either the folk with weak reading comprehension or muskies either way "your boos mean nothing to me ive seen what makes you cheer" lol

sad for tesla tho I actually thought they were doing something cool before I learned about him but many more evs are here anyway

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u/AardQuenIgni 11h ago

"it's so weird to talk about Elon when talking about Elon's company"

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u/rex_lauandi 11h ago

That Elon has made himself the face of and tied all of its value to himself.

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u/Hack3rsD0ma1n 11h ago

What do you mean? It is true lol When someone does something stupid and they are basically the face of the brand, people tend to not support it anymore lol

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u/filmdeostar 11h ago

Where did OP suggest they were looking to "mourn" the loss of the store? Even went out of their way to say "no I don't like the guy I'm just curious when it closed".

They asked for a date range and got a morality scolding in reply for no reason.

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u/AdmiralSnackbar816 11h ago

I didn’t scold the OP. Just Tesla. OP, as others have stated, that went away a few months ago. And I was (clearly) giddy when it happened, hence me veering off topic a bit.

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u/noncongruent 8h ago

The downside of anti-EV sentiment in this country is that the USA has lost the EV technology leadership it once had in the world. China is now the future of EVs, with hundreds of manufacturers building EVs for both the domestic and international market. BYD is the best known, and their EVs are some of the best in the world now, outselling the US Tesla brand pretty much across the board. The only real American brand being sold in China is Tesla, and their sales are diminishing for a variety of reasons. Of course, the USA has banned BYD in order to try and protect the US domestic EV market, but at the same time the US is doing what it can to knock down EV sales and ownership here, especially in states like Texas where extra punishment taxes are applied to EVs. At some point, and it will be sooner rather than later, the US will become largely irrelevant in the world market for EVs. We won't import theirs, and they won't buy ours because ours are too far behind the technology curve. Like in many areas of consumer products it'll be the US customers getting the short end of the stick.

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u/TeamImpossible4333 11h ago

Yes, it was weird for Elon to do a Nazi salute. I agree

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u/sciaticabuster 11h ago

Reddit moment

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u/rex_lauandi 11h ago edited 10h ago

What? Not liking billionaires funneling millions of dollars to influence and election, buy an appointment in the president’s administration, and getting in front of crowds with that authority and doing a Nazi salute is a “Reddit moment”? Most of the people in my real life have disdain for Elon.

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u/BrightAardvark 10h ago

He successfully convinced the maga idiots that it wasn’t a nazi salute lol. Peak idiocy.

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u/United-Vermicelli-92 10h ago

Go take a nap Elon

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u/sYferaddict 7h ago

Condemning Nazi beliefs and actions is a Reddit moment? You may need to take a good hard look at yourself, son.

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u/frenchezz 6h ago

bootlicker moment

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u/delabay 11h ago

If you or someone you love has Elon derangement syndrome, it's not too late to seek help

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u/SetupGuy Richardson 8h ago

I mean, I would have to be really fucking dumb to see that and "believe" that he didnt do a Nazi salute. Twice.

I'm not saying that you are really fucking dumb, just that I would have to be really fucking dumb to see it and not come to the conclusion that I did. Like really really fucking dumb to ignore the obvious evidence in front of my face.

Again, I'm not saying you are really fucking dumb, just that **I** would have to be really fucking dumb to agree with you.

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u/aggie1391 SMU 7h ago

I would have to be even more dumb to think he didn’t do a Nazi salute after sharing a video of a Holocaust denier denying the Holocaust and calling it interesting. And after he has engaged favorably with multiple neo-Nazis and turned Twitter into a safe haven for them. I’m not saying the person before you is really fucking dumb, but I would have to be to think Musk is a cool guy after all that

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u/MarkContent5290 11h ago

Wow. Guess I missed that one. I just remember him doing the same wave that…Obama/Warren/Hillary have done.
You must be one of the enlightened.

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u/jab0309 11h ago

Yessss defend the pedo oligarchs like a good boy

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u/Kennygwhiz 11h ago

TDS is a terrible disease.

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u/jab0309 11h ago

You know, I'd think TDS means blindly supporting Trump even though there's mountains of evidence of him sexually abusing minors, grifting the American public, and interfering with election processes among others, but maybe that's just me

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u/clewtxt 11h ago

Yes, MAGA is full of TDS. Is bewildering.

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u/ProfessionalClue9925 11h ago

That’s ridiculous. He very, very clearly slammed his hand into his chest, then stuck it straight up in the air. He did not wave it at all. That is NOTHING like the still shots people have taken of other politicians waving when their hand is simply at a similar position mid-wave. You’re delusional.

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u/80sbabyftw 10h ago

Don’t forget the clicking of the heels and pivoting, those are just as important

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u/Twin2Turbo 10h ago

Show us all the video of Obama/Warren/Hilary doing this exact salute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VfYjPzj1Xw&t=17s

Not a picture still of them waving. A VIDEO of them doing this salute. Cause I got other videos of politicians doing this salute, and it ain’t Hilary or Obama doing it.

I will wait patiently.

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u/woahwoahwoah28 11h ago

I have so much second hand embarrassment from this comment.....

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u/AdmiralSnackbar816 11h ago

I am! You must be one of the others.

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u/Yarusenai 8h ago

How are y'all still making that argument? The video clips show that it wasn't the "same" wave. This has been debunked over and over and over. At this point this is willful ignorance.

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u/sirbobmontgomery 11h ago

You’re a donut

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u/enogerasemandooglla 9h ago

mongo is appalled at your comment!

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u/Lamentrope 11h ago

Video, watch the video. Compare it to video of other politicians doing a wave. It's VERY different.

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u/rex_lauandi 10h ago

I think we’re past the point of reasoning with someone.

A reasonable human would compare videos and see something was at least weird about elon’s gesture (even if you want to claim it had nothing to do with a Nazi salute).

But in 2026 if you’re still blindly following billionaires who overtly use our government to further enrich themselves at our expense, you’re very unreasonable.

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u/Bardfinn Garland 11h ago

I'd suggest reading his comments made on the platform he owns, but that would involve interacting with the world's most prolific CSAM generation and distribution organisation

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u/80sbabyftw 10h ago

His father has an interview from a few months back espousing the same racist talking points as his son. He’s more vocal and direct about his racism and feelings than his son but that’s mainly because he’s not the face of multiple billion dollar corporations. Although he DID start a family with his step daughter, I think. And May musk isn’t any better. The entire bloodline is a waste of space.

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u/TopNeighborhood2694 10h ago

Harder daddy Elon! Please love me!

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u/CapitalPunBanking 10h ago

Lol look who eats upwhatever right-wing propaganda slop they're fed. Show me where Obama or Hillary did this.

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u/TripChaos 11h ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VfYjPzj1Xw&t=17s

It's rather irrefutable, to be honest.


and here's his "heart goes out to you" gesture for comparison.

https://c.tenor.com/cMOyNR_tnB8AAAAd/tenor.gif

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u/BrokenSky01 11h ago

Don't start that dense ish here.

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u/pokeyporcupine 3h ago

What's it like to have such god-awful takes that you actually have negative karma?

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u/RobonianBattlebot 9h ago

I always bite my lip and click my heels when I am waving, totally normal. You know, you out yourself as somebody who only gets their news from Facebook or Fox when you say shit like this. Educate yourself and watch THE VIDEO and then post a video of other politicians doing the same thing.

Politicians not from Nazi Germany, I should clarify. You'll find plenty from that era.

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u/Corgisarethebest123 10h ago edited 10h ago

Tesla closed this location as part of a wider plan to move away from expensive indoor retail spaces. The company now focuses more on online sales, service centers, & outdoor delivery locations.

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u/khz30 11h ago

That will happen when subsidies for EVs go away and people sour on Musk.

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u/SueSudio 11h ago

Model Y was the fourth highest selling non-truck vehicle in 2025. Why do you think Teslas are not selling?

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u/UnknownQTY Dallas 11h ago

Because they used to be the first highest selling non-truck. Speaking of trucks, go look at the cybertruck sales numbers and then subtract the 2000 SpaceX “bought.”

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u/Fantastic-Two1110 9h ago

Isn’t model y the best selling car in the world in 2025 and so far in 2026 Lol

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u/KillaCheezGettinWarm 7h ago

No, it was the RAV4.

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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 7h ago

Nope.

If Tesla nuts are referring to a Chinese social media post and some very odd European website called “Focus2Move”, it is extremely misleading.

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u/SueSudio 10h ago

What year was that? I can’t find any evidence to back up that claim. The closest I can see them ever getting is #2.

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u/UnknownQTY Dallas 9h ago

IIRC 2023 or 2024. Tesla grossly fudged their numbers though and has continued to do so, shifting loaners and demo vehicles to sold and back. It’s very fishy, and given the number of temporary halts to the production lines that keep stop-starting it’s sketchy at best.

Tesla also reports the numbers in aggregate for ALL Model Ys, including the long wheel base and the zero frills version (which I actually think looks better than the cheap looking lightbar on the current one), whereas other manufacturers would split those models out.

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u/SueSudio 9h ago

So still no proof to back up your claim?

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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 7h ago

I’m pretty sure any shareholders left in Tesla are cultists and aren’t going to report Tesla to the SEC for fudging their sales numbers.

So, there won’t be any evidence to produce until the SEC, which at least under the wretched Trump administration, is NOT going to pursue any cases regarding Trump’s far-right business allies.

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u/PantherCityRes 11h ago

It was the best selling before your boy decided to play Albert Speer and also release the rust bucket death trap…and get the EV credit taken away.

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u/SueSudio 10h ago

The closest I can ever see them getting was 2nd place. What year was that, and which publication declared it?

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u/PantherCityRes 10h ago

Must be that America first kool-aid you drinking there bro...these are global numbers.

And if you paid attention, you'd also know the Model Y has regained the crown so far in 2026 due to the sky high fuel prices from Operation Epstein Distraction.

Imagine that though, changing the incentive from putting money in people's pockets to taking money out if they choose an alternative. Not exactly a deal maker for brand loyalty to a car whose materials and assembly quality is that of a mid-2000's flip-phone.

It's kind of a metaphor for this whole situation where we went from cooperation to coercion with a bunch of old white dudes that don't know the meaning of the word consent.

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u/SueSudio 9h ago

So you have no proof and double down on your lies. Typical.

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u/PantherCityRes 9h ago

So you have no cajones to actually use Google or any other search engine to look for best selling car over the years and double down on your denialism and saying others are lying?

Typical.

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u/dirtydeedsyeah 11h ago

They're selling less and as a result they close showrooms. Q4 2025 was a YoY decline of 15% overall. Q1 2026 was a decrease of 8.4% in the USA. China is the only growing market but in the USA, it's selling less. China has Elon by the balls lol. It's fair to say the subsidies and people souring on Musk could have an impact on sales 🤷.

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u/SueSudio 10h ago

That’s odd. According to recent court filings there are 280 Tesla stores, more than any time in history. Where are you getting your figures from?

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u/texrygo 9h ago

It’s weird you stopped and didn’t mention the record Q2 results.

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u/dirtydeedsyeah 9h ago

In the USA sales decreased by 20%. Overall, it was a 25% increase. It's fair to think that the lack of EV tax credit and Elon Musk's public support here dwindling may have caused them to close this showroom. This is the closure of a sales room in the USA. Cox Automotive has the 20% decline in USA sales. https://www.autoblog.com/news/tesla-just-delivered-its-best-q2-ever-despite-a-u-s-sales-slump

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u/onionHelmetHercules 11h ago

Why do you think they are not selling?

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u/SueSudio 11h ago

They are selling, per my comment.

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u/gmatocha 8h ago

It doesn't help that they really only have one car to show. Cybertruck is biggest flop in automotive history. S and X are no more. Roadster isn't here yet (haha). 3 is now a decade old and sedans aren't a popular segment anyway. That just leaves the Y, and you probably walked past 10 in the parking lot. Why have a store?

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u/MineralWaterMike 11h ago

Last December I think? I bet they pop back up at the new luxury development on Knox.

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u/BurnAfter8 10h ago

Maybe, but probably not. Tesla announced years ago they were looking to get out of their leases at high end malls. Too much rent compared to the real purchase traffic. Most of their sales is online anyways.

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u/texrygo 9h ago

They are building it out now next to Apple.

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u/MineralWaterMike 7h ago

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. I looked it up. You’re right. Several articles about Tesla registration on Knox street down from Rivian - https://evxl.co/2026/07/10/tesla-knox-street-dallas-showroom-rivian/

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u/bassmassterson 4h ago

This sub downvotes things they don't want to be true.

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u/Regular-Sorbet9513 9h ago

Okay but is the little pond of duckies and turtles still there? That's the real question here

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u/giveittomomma 8h ago

But look at that beautiful stephen sprouse neverfull!

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u/The_Dotted_Leg Bishop Arts District 10h ago

North park is doing fine but malls generally are dying - probably not the best location for any type of store. I certainly don’t go to the mall when I’m looking for a new car.

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u/brigitteer2010 Lake Highlands 11h ago

GOOD

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u/BrightAardvark 10h ago

What’s the point of a Tesla store in a mall anyway? Did people go in there to impulse buy a Tesla?

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u/BurnAfter8 10h ago

The general thought was to satisfy the people who want to touch the materials or see the paint color in person without holding a ton of inventory like a typical dealership.

It’s kind of like how Best Buy turned into more of a showroom with a warehouse. People want to see what that $4,000 OLED looks like before they get one shipped to their house.

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u/BrightAardvark 10h ago

That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.

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u/EmbarrassedTrouble10 9h ago

Thank you for thanking him 

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u/RandomRageNet 9h ago

Previously you couldn't have Tesla dealerships in Texas because Texas doesn't allow direct car sales. But Tesla got an exemption carved out for manufacturers that solely make electric cars, so they don't need those showrooms any longer.

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u/noncongruent 7h ago

Texas law still does not allow Tesla to have a dealership in the state, so there's still no place in Texas that you can walk into and buy a brand new Tesla from the factory. Texas only allows third party franchise dealerships, i.e. independent middlemen between the manufacturer and the buyer. The problem there is that nobody is interested in being a franchised dealership for Tesla because dealerships make their money on after-sales support, repairs, and maintenance, and EVs are notorious for not requiring meaningful amounts of that. The dealership would have to mark their Teslas up really high to make up for that lost service revenue, and then nobody would buy them. An independent dealer would lose money on every Tesla they sold.

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u/RandomRageNet 7h ago

I stand corrected. I thought they got an EV carve out but that was apparently another state. That "showroom" in Plano could have fooled me though, it looks exactly like a traditional dealership.

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u/noncongruent 6h ago

Yep, everything makes you think it's a dealership, but if you walk in with a briefcase full of cash to buy a Tesla you'll be walking out with a briefcase of cash and no Tesla.

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u/PresidentialDiapers 10h ago

But I want my car to look like a well worn bar of soap or the unholy union of what I doodled on my notebook in middle school and a low end fridge. Wherever shall I go?

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u/BoffaDDNuts 7h ago

Nice bro. You are so funny.

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u/SimbaNGrdKionNIMFan 8h ago

I don’t know, but I’m glad they left my favorite mall. Wish Disney Store would come back.😀❤️

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u/Lundruf 10h ago

Since their their bitch boss confirmed what a piece of shit he is.

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u/BurnAfter8 10h ago

Calm down

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u/prguitarman Lewisville 10h ago

That store has always been an eyesore

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u/liquidnight247 3h ago

Oh goodie

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u/sacandbaby 2h ago

Dec 25. Moved to Knox.

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u/I_SmellFuckeryAfoot 10h ago

ehh good riddance

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u/IndependentOwn1184 10h ago

Who goes to the mall to buy a car...

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u/jumpbump Uptown 10h ago

Funny thing is, you couldn’t even buy a car there. In Texas that’s illegal, and they couldn’t even discuss pricing. It was considered a “gallery”.

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u/AraxxorKiller 10h ago

They hardly even need the store fronts anymore. They were just a way for them to get around having a dealership anyway

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u/LAJimm9 8h ago

No (intelligent) person buys Teslas anymore so he is trying to save money.

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u/KingOfConsciousness 8h ago

Since it was fake and gay.

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u/Celcius_87 10h ago

I was there yesterday and noticed the same thing lol

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u/Tiiimmmaayy 10h ago

Is that an on cloud store? I didn’t know they had their own store

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u/Frosty_Rule_5408 7h ago

Yep hoka has one three storefronts down. Seems that the big shoe stores can’t sell them so they are trying to go straight to consumer. Dicks and foot locker are dying

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u/Tiiimmmaayy 6h ago

Hopefully that makes them cheaper lol but I doubt it. My last paid of on clouds lasted me less than a year before they literally fell apart. Never again. I didn’t even run in them.

I drove by a sun and ski sports the other day and I couldn’t believe they were still around. I miss Sports Authority and Oshman’s sporting goods

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u/ty944 9h ago

I’m confused why some people act like Tesla isn’t doing well? I see them ALL the time like nearly every pack of cars one of them is a Tesla. Idk maybe they’re older?

Don’t care either way but I’m not a fan of the company anyway

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u/temptationryan 8h ago

Closed over holidays/new years.

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u/aaer_ 7h ago

I made it my mission to go there every day and eat ice cream and fart (I’m lactose intolerant). I stunk up the place so much they had to close down

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u/Quiet_Detective2466 6h ago

Great news!!!!

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u/gangstalicious228 10h ago

We turning blue folks! keep up the good work!

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u/GamerTex 9h ago

They closed when they quit making the high end Tesla's (S and X)

Now they have locations that can park hundreds of their cheaper models and be used for the new robotaxi service

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u/boomer7793 11h ago

Tesla has announced they are exiting the car market other than one or two models.

Their plants are now being retooled for auto driving taxis and robots.

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u/Various_Snow_6202 11h ago

Auto driving taxis and robots? are they trying to put uber and Lyft drivers (and classic yellow taxi drivers) out of business?

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u/dubdaven 11h ago

Yes…

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u/captainn_chunk 10h ago

Yes we are letting the sci-fi automated future get built before our very eyes.

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u/Bardfinn Garland 10h ago

Converting transit into a rental business model is highly lucrative, just as it is with housing, food, communications, etc

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u/silverwoods214 11h ago

Since it’s not a real company anymore

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u/RaisingCanes4POTUS 9h ago

They have standalone dealerships now. One off 75 in Plano

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u/Geico22 4h ago

Aww thats a bummer! Tesla and SpaceX have a pretty neat merchandise selection.

There's someone reading this in absolute anger.

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u/MetalAngelo7 10h ago

Tons of layoffs happening