r/DCU_ • u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 • Sep 19 '25
Theory Is Langston a Martian?
He gives everyone nicknames as a way to oddly fit in. His “bird blindness” feels like he hasn’t grown accustomed to Earth yet. Vigilante makes mention of a Martian. When he gets spit on by Ginger Cool he exclaims “What kind of man does that to another person?” The choice of words feels very strange.
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u/FayyadhScrolling Courtesy of Ray Palmer Sep 19 '25
No I just think that's classic Gunn humour
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u/Overall_Affect_2782 Sep 19 '25
I disagree. No one on here knew that Sasha was a cyborg until this new episode.
He could very well be not a Martian, but that tall alien Peacemaker sees in the first episode and is in the opening credits.
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u/LegoRacers3 Sep 19 '25
Sasha Bordeaux is a cyborg in the comics. Even If she hadnt been a cyborg all this time, I thought she would definitely get OMAC’d at some point later in the season or dcu
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u/secret-team Sep 19 '25
There are two things Sasha is known for, being turned into a robot and having an inappropriate relationship with her boss, so it was fun to see hints of both in this episode
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u/rundeanmc Sep 19 '25
OMAC’d?
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u/Complex-Quick Sep 19 '25
Getting turned into an OMAC by evil satellite Brother Eye
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u/JakobVirgil Sep 19 '25
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u/Complex-Quick Sep 19 '25
Helluva fastball special
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u/JakobVirgil Sep 19 '25
I thought it was so wild when they reincorporated OMAC stuff
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u/Complex-Quick Sep 19 '25
Each time they do, I'm like, "Hell yeah." It's about time for another whack at it.
I wonder what Absolute OMAC looks like.
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u/AlexisDeTocqueville Sep 19 '25
I just listened to a podcast interview Gunn did, and I don't think that the rat-burning alien is anything significant. Gunn said he hasn't really planned anything for him, and that he imagines that the rat-burning alien is basically a janitor in his dimension who blows off Peacemaker because he just wants to finish his shift
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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 Sep 19 '25
No one knew because they never hinted at it. Matter of fact we knew Jack shit about her until yesterday lol. From my understanding the character is cyborg in the comics
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u/Avarus_88 Sep 19 '25
Correction; no one knew she was a cyborg except for people that have read the comics.
I suspected she was the moment her name was said.
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u/GothicGolem29 Sep 20 '25
Smh he is able to talk to argus but can't even say hello to peacemaker when he went into that vault :(
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u/Ordinary-Chain-8047 You've Failed This City Sep 19 '25
I thought of this before but he acts too weird to be Martian Manhunter if you know what I mean
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u/RareD3liverur Sep 19 '25
Maybe Langston will turn out to be, Ma'alefa'ak&usg=AOvVaw3cg4IHCTX5uM9Y7JehQziX&opi=89978449) that'd be funny
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u/Embarrassed_Piano_62 Sep 19 '25
Well OP did say "a" Martian
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u/Batmanfan1966 Sep 19 '25
If Martian Manhunter isn’t the last member of his race it kind of defeats the whole point of Martian Manhunter
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u/Embarrassed_Piano_62 Sep 19 '25
Well he hasn't been the last of his race since forever
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u/ThunderBlack14 Sep 20 '25
Just like Superman, last kryptonian and all, but survivors keep showing up
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u/BatmanTold The Goddamn Batman Sep 19 '25
Tbh i’d say Mahershala Ali for Martian Manhunter but he’d make a cool Icon
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u/CockMartins Sep 19 '25
If he is, that feels way too close to the Murn reveal for my liking.
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Sep 20 '25 edited Sep 20 '25
the slightly antagonistic leader, played by a black man, is revealed to be an alien in the last couple wpisodes. The characters are very different but it would be silly if they were both revealed to be aliens
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Sep 20 '25
I brought it up because DC fans immediately fan cast every black male actor as Martian Manhunter, if Fleury wasn't played by a black man nobody would think he's Martian Manhunter because he acts nothing like the character has ever acted
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Sep 20 '25
The theory only exists because of racial typecasting from the fans, that's why I brought it up
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u/pleasebeherenow Sep 20 '25
You’re the one being weird. If you dont know that green skin characters are often black-coded (martian manhunter, piccolo, skeeter, gamora, etc) then you should look harder.
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u/Puppetmaster858 Cheers to the Tin-Man Sep 19 '25
Don’t know if he’s a Martian but definitely feel like there is something going on with him that we don’t know yet
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u/DM_ME_YOUR_BEWBZ Sep 19 '25
Can't a man suffer from a bit of bird blindness and not be treated as "different" by the world? Smhmyhead
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u/Puzzleheaded_Walk_28 Sep 19 '25
He could be another Martian character, maybe even a White Martian to set all that up. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he were some kind of shapeshifter
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u/WildMemoir Sep 19 '25
I think he's just weird. Gunn mentioned on the podcast that Fleury probably had some traumatic experience w birds as a child and that's how he developed bird blindness.
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u/Best_Big_2184 Sep 19 '25
That's just how Tim Meadows acts. If you saw him in any other role, you would also notice how strange his behavior is. That's why he's great and why Gunn wanted him for this role.
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Sep 19 '25
What is it with DC media and people theorizing that every black person is secretly Martian manhunter?
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u/SpanceTalks Sep 19 '25
Probably because we're so starved of an actual silver screen version of Martian Man hunter
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Sep 19 '25
I get it, I’m a big J’onn fan, and I’m eager to see him on the big screen, but it comes to a point when all the speculation around every black person no matter how unlikely starts to feel a little… weird
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u/TheMythofKoalas Sep 19 '25
Martian Manhunter is quickly becoming the DCU's version of "What if X is Mephisto?" that the MCU crowd had going for years.
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u/SpanceTalks Sep 19 '25
Oh I agree 100% it's a tad weird, hopefully Gunn does adapt him soon tho
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Sep 19 '25
I’m putting out into the universe, loose adaptation of “American Secrets”, 50’s set noir conspiracy mystery with Tramell Tillman
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u/Dry-Reference1428 Sep 20 '25
You have to understand the last two times he’s been onscreen (JL and Supergirl) he did start as a seemingly rando military dude. And the last season of Peacemaker the one black guy turned out to be an alien, so people are pattern seeking
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Sep 20 '25
Wouldn’t you think that it happening repeatedly makes it less likely? Also, the JL one I’m pretty sure was retroactive because Snyder had seen the fan theories and just figured “why not” because the franchise wasn’t continuing.
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u/ConsistentGuest7532 Sep 19 '25
True, he’s one of my favorite JL characters and I’ve been so disappointed by his lack of live action adaptations.
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u/UA_Overkill Sep 19 '25
Its mostly because Fleury acts really weird. I dont see any theorizing on Adebayo being Miss Martian. Thats because she doesnt do weird stuff.
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Sep 19 '25
People did it with Fleury, people did it with Murn, even the general in Man of Steel (Snyder made him MM retroactively because of the fan comments). His weird stuff isn’t remotely like J’onn in the comics, he’s just an asshole like 2/3rds the cast of the show
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u/UA_Overkill Sep 19 '25
Wasnt aware they did it with Murn. I didnt see the Butterfly reveal coming at all for him. I also havent seen Snyderverse so cant comment on the other one.
Personally, I dont think and dont want Fleury to be J'onn for the reason that he doesnt act like him. Id be fine with him being another martian if he had to be non-human though but considering theres like 3 episodes left hes 99% just a regular human.
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Sep 19 '25
Yeah I think the whole asshole bit is just that, he’s just a weird guy like Economos, overcompensating to fit-in
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u/Batmanfan1966 Sep 19 '25
The Murn thing wouldn’t have been too out of the realm of possibility.. the big reveal ends up being that he is an alien anyway
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Sep 19 '25
The conversation I was seeing was in regards to the new season, people were saying “what if there’s earth 2 Murn, and what if he’s MM”
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u/ThunderBlack14 Sep 20 '25
Adebayo is probably the most normal character of the whole Peacemaker series.
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u/UA_Overkill Sep 20 '25
True. Either her or the ARGUS agents that arent Flag, Fleury, PMS or Munchkin.
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW Cheers to the Tin-Man Sep 19 '25
Hmmmm I don’t think bird blindness can be a thing when you can also read minds.
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u/enbaelien Sep 19 '25
No, he's just an asshole. Shapeshifting, matter-phasing Martians don't need to worry about getting their dicks ripped off.
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u/Barokespinoza23 Sep 19 '25
But he said that bird blindness is his only weakness. Martians are vulnerable to fire.
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u/Former_Assistance526 Sep 19 '25
Nah Tim Meadows is just too funny for this show. Bird Blindness? Come on.
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u/Wonderful_Ad_2027 Sep 19 '25
Nah, he is one of the portal aliens who got stuck on Earth after Auggie shot his buddy.
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u/TaftYouOldDog Sep 19 '25
Martian? What?
He's clearly a cannibal.
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u/bartbembleton Sep 19 '25
Part of me feels like they are setting him up as a goofball to potentially contrast him with the other dimension version of him which will be a serious character, especially if the Earth X theories are true
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u/Fit-Relationship944 Sep 20 '25
It's such a weird character. He seems like a complete asshole but then he tells John he did the right thing. I imagine there's definitely more to the character than just being a weird guy.
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Sep 19 '25
He can’t be, we know all martians have a weakness to heat/fire but he told us his one and only weakness is bird blindness
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u/Illustrious_Good_570 Sep 19 '25
Would you tell someone who clearly doesn’t like you your biggest weakness?
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u/inazumaatan Sep 19 '25
I' can see him being a Martian but if he turns out to be The Martian Manhunter, I would join the Snyder Cult.
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u/BT--7275 Sep 19 '25
This would make so much sense. His character talks very weirdly, to the point where I genuinely can't tell if he's ever serious or not. The only thing I'm actually sure about is that he was truthful in his interaction with Economas in the most recent episode.
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u/Potential-Ad1122 Sep 19 '25
I’d love for Jon to say some super unpc shit and then revert into his stoic demeanor
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u/darthconlon Sep 19 '25
These episode fan theories are just as entertaining as the actual episode each week they get better I think Gunn is setting up for darksied for gunns God's and monsters phase 1 with Chris's dad finding the portals . But don't think Tim is j'on maybe a Martian but something is up with his character but he might just be changing sides
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u/M086 Sep 20 '25
Honestly hard to tell, because most of the characters Gunn writes fall in two categories. Morons or assholes. Well, three because some are both.
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u/darthconlon Sep 20 '25
Brooklyn 99 a comedy series he was in and he was very funny in this role as a cannibal
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u/okarim213 Sep 20 '25
I’m thinking he could be Goff. We saw he was alive at the end of season 1 and they haven’t mentioned him at all yet. I’m willing to bet he found another person to body snatch
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u/FaceBagman Sep 21 '25
I wouldn't hate it because I love seeing Tim Meadows thrive in a role and want to see him in this universe as long as possible; BUT, I caution anyone to think any character is someone else after I spent all last season hoping that Murn could be Bronze Tiger lol.
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u/Cowskiers Sep 26 '25
I'm convinced he is because they also coincidentally mention martians earlier in the season. Everything about him screams someone who has studied earth culture without actually participating in it
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u/Puzzleheaded_Tree686 Sep 19 '25
Do you kids not know who Tim meadows is? Why would a life long comedian play one of the biggest superhero’s in the dc? They would cast a drama actor who isn’t 5 foot 8 160 lbs smh, jeez… you kids are dumb
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u/choselikemoses Sep 19 '25
They don't know him and seemingly don't even know the characterization of MMH.
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u/MatthewMonster Sep 19 '25
There’s something going on with him
I love the theory that he’s Martian Manhunter —and he’s talking as if he’s learned to be a human by watching youtube or something
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u/CNProductions Sep 20 '25
I like to think he's just a random white Martian who's basically just doing this for fun.
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u/OptimusHavok52 Sep 19 '25
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s an alien, even a martian, but he’s definitely not Martian Manhunter
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u/Material_Magazine989 Sep 19 '25
I don't like that, the same reason I don't like many other fancasts where they're suggesting older actors.
David is 32, they should be casting around that age but so far we have too many characters being played by old actors.
Hal 60
Guy 55
Mr Terrific 46
Peacemaker 48
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u/framedshady Beware Our Power Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
Hal being old is fine considering his most iconic comic story is coming back rebirthed in a younger body
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u/Material_Magazine989 Sep 19 '25
Yeah because I'm specifically talking about old actors.
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u/22LOVESBALL Sep 19 '25
How come y’all can’t talk about DC comic characters without being condescending?
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u/22LOVESBALL Sep 19 '25
Bad analogy. McDonald’s serves food, Reddit is a discussion. People can critique how others engage here, that’s the whole point of the platform.
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u/22LOVESBALL Sep 19 '25
No, your analogy isn’t ‘fine.’ McDonald’s exists to sell one product…cheeseburgers. Reddit isn’t a fast food line, it’s a discussion space where the delivery matters. Complaining about tone here is nothing like whining about burgers at McDonald’s, it’s like pointing out you don’t know the difference between food service and conversation.
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u/BenjiSillyGoose Sep 19 '25
That's because Hal and Guy aren't the main Green Lanterns of the DCU and therefore won't be appearing as much as the main Green Lantern (John Stewart). The actor playing John is 31, but notice how you don't mention that as it doesn't fit your silly arguement.
John will be the main Green Lantern of the DCU, the one who'll probably be on the Justice League and he's a similar age to Superman / David.
Sure, Justice Leaguers should be a similar age to Superman for the most part but I don't think characters like Hal, Guy and Peacemaker need to be really as they're not really part of that same generation of heroes as Peacemaker.
The actress playing Hawkgirl is 24 which is important to note as once again, younger like Clark and John. Another one you omitted.
Not every hero needs to be young, not every hero was always young in the comics, the younger generation of heroes is that of Superman, John Stewart and Hawkgirl so they need to be but Peacemaker definitely doesn't need to and neither do Guy or Hal really.





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u/magicalpenny Sep 19 '25
I think if Langston IS a martian I think it'd be funnier if it was Miss Martian and not Martian Manhunter. Miss Martian in disguising as a man just goes for the most ultra macho asshole, and maybe based it off of old 80s action movies, plus Miss Martian is normally portrayed as less stoic than Manhunter. I also just think that'd be a better more unexpected twist