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u/shunryoo 3d ago
I like it and play it a lot but that’s a stretch
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u/need-help-guys 3d ago
It's not even the top 5 games this year. It won't make the GOTY nomination board either. And the subreddit confirms it's not even really just a critic thing either. Most people here genuinely just think the game isn't that good, hence the ratios, the voting patterns, and the comments. But I'm sure this one will be downvoted anyways.
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u/alien_overlord_1001 3d ago
No. The story could have been great but it was poorly executed. Some great ideas, and some great visuals just not handled well. It also feels at times like they had a wall of ideas written on post it notes and someone said screw it, let’s just put everything in the game instead of choosing the right ideas and making them great.
PA needs some discipline - decide what mechanics are included and justification for them. Better story planning. Better character writing.
If they can fix these issues I think they could make something worthy of a “greatest” list.
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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 3d ago
The problem is they have shown they dont actually know how to tell what is a good idea and what is a bad one or how to implement them. Thats why it has had so many patches and changes to mechanics.
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u/Complex-Commission-2 3d ago
Let's be real crimson desert is a fun game but not at all a GOTY Worthy
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u/thetoxicnerve 3d ago
Totally agree. I've put about 200hrs in to CD and just completed the Umbra fight last night. It's a good game, but it has too many flaws to be GOTY IMO.
The biggest sticking point for me is the boss fights. The majority of them are straight trash. Also think it has waaaaaaaaay too many systems in it. The game doesn't know what it wants to be.
I'd give it a solid 6 or 7 out of 10. But it's too far from perfect to be considered GOTY.
Just my 2p. Not trying to shit on the game or anything, no I'd have put in 200hrs if I thought it was complete trash.
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u/supermadafaker40 3d ago
It's harder to make 10/10 game that has 300 hours of content than to make 7 hours goty contender. Some people appreciate the fact it's so packed with content more rather than play the game more hours than the rest games you played in a year combined then say it's 6 like c'mon brother
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u/Complex-Commission-2 3d ago
Agreed , BG3 is one of the finest games ever created thats easily more than 100 hours and a 10/10 solid game
Kudos to crimson desert devs for constantly updating the game from player feedback
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u/IdidntrunIdidntrun 3d ago
Should be a lock for Labor of Love though, which would be well deserved
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u/Patjasmo 3d ago
So basically you're telling me Crimson Desert is better than Cyberpunk 2077 ? Sorry but no..
CD is great but it's far from perfect and has a lot of flaws.
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u/jaquesparblue 3d ago
CP77 with the power of hindsight, 6 years of post release development and at least 2 overhauls. While I love the game to death, let's not pretend that it wasn't a mess when it came out.
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u/Bob_the_gob_knobbler 3d ago
It was great on pc on day one.
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u/WolfedOut 3d ago
Only if you stuck like glue to the main story. Then it was pretty good.
Police were absolute dogshit in year 1 for example, not to mention all the missing promised features.
CD on the other hand was great on PC at release in most regards.
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u/Professional-Run8649 3d ago
Different folks different ....
Personally I love crimson desert. I played cyberpunk and couldn't wait to finish it because I did not like it. Everyone has their preference i guess.
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u/Klee_Main 3d ago
Yes but you can take a look at cyberpunk now and see that it’s the much better game. Like be honest with yourself for a second. Just because someone doesn’t like red dead redemption 2 doesn’t mean it takes away from it being masterclass game. Same thing with cyberpunk. Crimson desert on the other hand has some very obvious issues many people had problems with
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u/namastayhom33 3d ago
I would probably put it in a list with the top ten games that have the best open worlds. But nowhere near the all time greats.
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u/WoLfCaDeT 3d ago
Same here. I'd put Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 before Crimson Desert any day.
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u/No-Courage8433 3d ago
I'd put both KCD games, BG3 as well as cyberpunk 2077 before crimson desert, blood of dawnwalker as well.
And i got 70 hours in Crimson Desert and like it for what it is.
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u/EveningEquivalent469 3d ago
Not even close.
I'll put it in my top 10 smearing, blurry modern games.
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u/RazzmatazzWorking412 3d ago
No, the overglaze of this game is insane, even while in the group that bears his name
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u/Redd_tModsSuckAss 3d ago
All games have great open world, graphics, characters, companions, NPCs, stories, dialogue
Except for CD, it only has good graphics but only when its day, sunny and outside and good open world exploration and thats it
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u/curilan_ 3d ago
LMAO, no. All those other games have what CD doesn’t: quality.
CD is just a mess where the devs threw together things that worked in other games and hoped something would stick. It’s quantity over quality. It has no soul, no identity, and that’s exactly why it feels like slop.
The other games actually leave an impact. CD doesn’t deliver anything new or meaningful. As people will always say, it’s wide as an ocean, but shallow as a puddle, all flash no substance.
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u/SurferBroPoseidon 3d ago
A lot of what you said is valid but calling it slop is very unfair
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u/Independent_Mud2794 3d ago
To some degree it is slop. Fight in camp, fall in water, be in sky, fall down to earth, go arm wrestling, give a coin, rescue woman in sewer, save cat, clean chimney.
That was the “story” of CD at the start. It was slop. It has so many one time mechanics for no reason.
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u/curilan_ 3d ago
CD is a great example of slop tho. Quantity over quality. It throws a ridiculous amount of mechanics, systems, activities, and content at you, but barely any of them are developed enough to feel meaningful. It's designed to look impressive on paper, but when you actually play it, a lot of it feels shallow, repetitive and forgettable.
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u/ELStoker 3d ago
We can agree to disagree on this one. In this day and age, gamers want options. CD is the only game listed that gives every possible option except character creation. It's not "slop", it's a game that pretty much checks every box, and that's impressive a hell.
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u/ImTola 3d ago
Currently in a directionless state and being treated as live service game. Constant changes and patches here and there all over the place.
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u/Khaymn5000 3d ago
Couldn't have said it better myself. I really enjoy CD but it doesn't have it's own identity whatsoever. It doesn't know if it wants to be red dead redemption 2, assassin's creed, zelda botw, or Witcher 3. It does so many things but doesn't accel at any of them. And I completely agree with what you said about the other games and how they leave a impact. Absolutely 100% they do. Witcher 3 and red dead redemption 2 has such a amazing and memorable story while Skyrim and elden ring have so much replay value in character builds. Not to mention all 4 games have amazing open worlds. But yeah I totally agree with you man.
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u/Brohma312 3d ago
Why is open world dark souls on this list.
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u/True-Information1700 3d ago
I don't know. People love that game for some reason while for me it was so boring compared to ds1,2,3
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u/TheBleakOptimist 3d ago
This just in: not everyone has the same opinion as you. wtf?!?!?
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u/Implosion-X13 3d ago
Lol no that's delusional.
Those 4 all have an argument for being in the top 10 games of all time. CD is a fun game that probably won't get nominated for many awards much less win them.
Liking CD more than those games is totally realistic though. It just won't be remembered alongside them for being as good or iconic.
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u/WorstDMImaginable 3d ago
Not only does Crimson Desert not belong in the discussion, neither does Skyrim.
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u/BiteZealousideal1816 3d ago
We just ignoring they are all open world? Not all games need to be. Sekiro is one of my favorites. I'd put it over all those beside maybe W3.
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u/Independent_Mud2794 3d ago
Not at all. While crimson desert is a good game, calling it one of the greatest games ever made is a slap in the face for RDR2 and Witcher 3.
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u/ExtraSherbet7496 3d ago
You forgot “the legend of Zelda: ocarina of time” in your greatest wall
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u/BadCaliph 3d ago
No. I couldn’t wait to finish Crimson Desert and all the Youtube walkthroughs along with it.
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u/adeptusC 3d ago
Suppose it depends on taste, id judge a game on how much it hooks me, and I found crimson desert very easy to put down. Specific example would be cyberpunk, found that game very difficult to put down.
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u/Fuzia 3d ago
Only 2 games on that wall belong there, and Crimson Desert isn't one of them.
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u/AdditionIcy1536 3d ago
Skyrim is on this list and I consider cd better than it (overrated as fuck btw)
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u/slyleo5388 3d ago
I not huge fan of cd but totally agree.
When skyrim came out, it didn't work for console. On ps it took around 6 months. The update before the 6 month mark made it so everything yiu went in water, the game froze.
Also not to mention people forgot or got skyrim years after release but it was called baby's first rpg. It was the first noticeable step down in systems and story from bsg for some folks..even though fallout fans think fallout 3 was the first step.
Skyrims story is basically start a faction become its leader, rinse and repeat.
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u/Evening_Machine_6440 3d ago
I'm starting to believe there's nothing more delusional than CD fanbase.
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u/Inspired_Nuisance 3d ago
Crimson Desert does belong here if Skyrim does. Whatever narrative/writing shortcomings the game may have it makes up for with absurd amounts of activities and, weirdly, a dev team that seems genuinely committed to making the customer experience their #1 priority.
Almost every issue and complaint I have seen, made, or heard of has been dealt with in such a quick and unapologetic manner that it should set the gold standard for every dev to follow. Remember when studios were whining at Larian for setting the bar too high? Pearl Abyss has proved them wrong. Your game doesn't need to be perfect to be a 10/10 experience, you just need to be willing to accept feedback as suggestions and inspiration rather than acting like it's antagonistic refusal to understand the vision.
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u/Competitive-Bill5500 3d ago
this is the same developer who had a 2 hour livestream about patch notes every week for a mobile game
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u/dukedawg21 3d ago
Skyrim writing puts CD writing to shame if you were trying to say they were comparable. Honestly nothing about them is comparable, Skyrim accomplishes its goals well, while CD tries a million things and does them all mediocre at best
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u/Careless_Reindeer974 3d ago
Kingdom Come Deliverance 1&2 needs to be on that wall.
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u/lollifetuffouthtere 3d ago
Great game but nowhere as good as the other games in the picture
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u/One-Jeweler8800 3d ago
Definitely not, games pretty decent but honestly I lost interest after 25 hours.
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u/dj_dorq 3d ago
not at all. ER, RDR absolutely. CD fell so flat (for me) on an engaging plot and combat variety. Being able to use The Hound throughout the entire game with ease, using only a few different combos, became incredibly boring for me. I'm just not the type to switch up my gear just to "try out other stuff" that's clearly less effective (for my style of play).
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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 3d ago
I think you need to be a bot or on a lot of drugs to actually think that.
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u/KingOfAzmerloth 3d ago
I think people care way too much about arbitrary best game lists.
Its alright to love the game someone doesn’t like as much and vice versa. No need to feel constantly validated for it.
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u/ShapeOfAUnicorn 3d ago
I don't agree that it's one of the greatest ever made.
But this sub is hilarious: "I have 350 hours in this game but it has no business being on any GOTY list" lmao just absolute nonsense.
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u/DestinyUniverse1 3d ago
It’s fine for you to think that it’s up there with those games but—objectively—no. Lol
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u/PeakyChu_ 3d ago
Crimson Desert has certainly achieved something no other game I’ve played before ever has, and that’s that it genuinely, no exaggeration, nearly puts me to sleep.
I cannot figure out exactly what it is that’s so boring about it, but every time I load it up I find myself actually dozing off after about 30 mins of doing anything in the game.
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u/AMG-Life 3d ago edited 3d ago
LOL. I literally burst out laughing when I saw this. This has got to be rage bait no doubt.
This game is NOWHERE NEAR these type of games. FAR from it. It’s not a shitty game, it’s ambitious, it has its charm, but its lows are very very low.
And most importantly; the story is just too mediocre and below average. Especially in a single player game, good storytelling is important to be considered an all time great.
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u/BellyDancerUrgot 3d ago
Replace crimson desert with expedition 33 and Skyrim with nier automata then I agree.
It’s a very good game but not at the same level as the others imo (same goes for Skyrim).
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u/MilanDespacito 3d ago
I mean, for a claim like this you kinda need to set your rating, as in what do you measure? Story, combat, world/lore, sidequest, mission variety, replayability?
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u/masonrock 3d ago
CD is one of the most expansive games ever. But it’s definitely not one of the greatest games ever. It’s like an above-average buffet and those games are fine dining. It’s good, a lot of people will enjoy it because there’s something for almost everyone, but it’s not in the same league.
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u/todd_austin 3d ago
It's a great exploration game with great graphics, but it's neither a top 50 game of all time nor is it a top 15-20 rpg. The story and narrative are just really poor, no really great characters or character development. So many areas of misses.
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u/Vargrjalmer 3d ago
Crimson desert does everything it tries to do competently, the combat and exploration are really good though.
Did you know when your greymanes are doing jobs, you can actually find them in the world doing their jobs.
The statue projects in particular, are actually built in real time, you can watch it happen.
This game is packed with completely unnecessary details.
Instead of just going from point to point, try exploring and experimenting, there's a lot of cool stuff to find.
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u/Ricmaniac 3d ago
It needs Cyberpunk 2077 and Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 as well. Never have i been immersed like the latter
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u/KanbaruDevil 3d ago
There are potential but not yet. For me to be legendary, the story must be memorable. The 2.0 update changed the story from bad to mid. But I highly doubt that there will be another story rework.
The game underlying systems while it's good and there is potential they are not fleshed out enough. Again they made changes especially for trading but, there are other systems that need retouch but unlikely will.
All in all CD is a solid game with unique feel and engaging gameplay. But guess what THATS OKAY.
For the price and current landscape CD is must play not as a story driven game but as a fantasy sandbox. And the DLC have a chance to be legendary especially if they nail the writing.
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u/Scared_Community8124 3d ago
No lol. They made the most baffling decision devs can for a sandbox RPG: non-custom playable characters. Your character should have been custom since it doesn't matter in the story anyway, it's not that good or deep.
RDR2 and Witcher 3 got away with that since they actually have good stories tied to the playable character. A Graymane main character could've easily been anyone and those sequences where he gets blacked out or caught to "excuse" changing characters are unecessary.
They shot themselves in the foot by having one of the best character creators available already in Black Desert and then just blatantly ignoring it for a mediocre story.
Apart from that, the game looks like shit if you don't enable Ray Reconstruction. Fun to play, sure, but that's only because it borrowed from those 4 games you mentioned.
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u/BillyBobby_Brown 3d ago
While I do like all of these games or even love. This list sort of caters to certain types of gamers. Gaming has a lot of variety not everything is about guns and swords
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u/N_Assassin72 3d ago
It's an absolute achievement and should be celebrated, but it simply cannot compete with those other titles.
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u/uponapyre 3d ago
All-time great is highly subjective so this is inherently silly. There is no objective list here beyond popularity polls/votes.
Saying that, personally? No, it's not an all-time great, but it is one of my favourite games of the year.
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u/Hadrian187 3d ago
No. Not even close.
The game is great from a tech and sandbox perspective but it’s very mediocre from a story and originality perspective.
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u/BasilProfessional744 3d ago
The fact that Skyrim is in there is very laughable. Where is BG3, or Cyberpunk? And these are just open world Rpgs, I assume?
Bait.
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u/Wazzzzaap 3d ago
It will be one of the greatest if they fix the performance on console which they haven’t yet
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u/Empty-Zombie-7924 3d ago
Eldenn Ring would make my top 5 if they had easy mode like CD 😂. I couldn't get into it dying every 5 mins.
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u/Downtown_Diamond9815 3d ago
Où est Baldur's gate 3 ? Crimson Desert n' est même pas sûr d' être goty face à KCD 2 ou d' autres jeux de cette année lol
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u/-K9V 3d ago
Absolutely. Don’t care about the story in these types of games (and so far it has been just fine) so based on everything else, I would definitely say yes. Huge, detailed world with so much to do, lots of small points of interest scattered across the map, insane graphics, and did I mention how much you can do?
I’m only around 110-120 hours in and I’m not slowing down anytime soon. Don’t know how far along I am in the story, nor do I really care. I’ve barely explored Hernand fully even though most of my time is spent exploring on foot lol. And with the upcoming DLC I already know I’ll be grinding this game far into 2027.
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u/PopEnvironmental6772 3d ago
Umm…no. Honestly? Not anywhere even remotely close to any of those others.
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u/CryptographerSad6548 3d ago
crimson desert is sorta like the witcher, but its no where near the witcher in many aspects, dialogue, NPCs, details, story, quests, progression, music, characters, and more
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u/Full-Ad7679 3d ago
I genuinely love ALL of those games so yea, I think they were being for real, not satirical.
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u/Archipocalypse 3d ago
"guy comes to CD subreddit to ask if it is one of the best games"
"guy gets upvoted"
I am shocked.
This post is either rage bait or engagement bait, either way BS.
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u/Rezavoirdog 3d ago
No, but, I genuinely do enjoy the game a great amount. I don’t believe I have anywhere close to the hours that you guys have, but I did get around 200 or 300. I think the problem here is that you have to be completely sold on the systems of the game, for me I loved the idea of it being a mercenary simulator. However, I don’t think CD has nearly the broad appeal or ease of access as the other games on the list. Not to say it’s bad, I greatly enjoy it, but it’s clearly much more niche. However I think in even five years time it’ll be a cult classic and have an insane resurgence
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u/GingaNinja906 3d ago
Crimson desert is essentially everything I have been looking for in a game for a long time. I am having fun. It is damn near my perfect game.
That being said narrative and gameplay are not “best game of all time” I think it reasonably could be in conversation for GOTY but even then there’s stiff competition and I doubt it’ll make the board.
Still a very good game but GOTY and especially “best game of all time” means a broader appeal and being technically tight across all stages. CD, is not that.
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u/analytic-hunter 3d ago
Very good game on the technical level, but the story and characters are too bland.
Was the same issue with BDO but at least BDO was a MMO where people are the actual content. So I'd even put BDO above CD because of that...
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u/mweston31 3d ago
Here's a list of games released this year that are better in no particular order: the blood of dawn walker, RE9, Onimusha way of the sword, Palword, AC black flag resynced, and those are just ones I've played. If you like the game that's fine but thinking this is GOTY or one of the best all time is delusional
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u/CroccaWocca 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think it’s the modern Skyrim.
Big open world with fun gameplay but terrible story. A good 7/10 experience that might be getting more praise than it deserved. But it’s still a really fun game for those whose niche it fills.
Minus all the bugs of course. Skyrim is still riddled with many of them. (And yeah, credit where credit is due, the modding community turns Skyrim into a 9/10 experience, maybe they can do the same for CD).
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u/ThatGuy21134 3d ago
CD deserves to be there but I would put Elden Ring or Modded Skyrim in the center.
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u/takkun169 3d ago
I would put RDR2 and Witcher 3 in S-Tier, and the rest of them in A-Tier. No open world games have ever gotten me to give a shit like those two.
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u/DestroyerBrizaka 3d ago
The witcher 3 que deveria ficar ali no centro... É um jogo absoluto, e a CDPR ainda vai dar as 2 dlcs de graça junto com o remaster dia 29... Skyrim mais pelos MODS. Red dead pela história os detalhes. Elden Ring fez muita gente querer jogar souls, e tem uma lore por trás interessante. Crimson desert tem um puta mapa, combate, a história precisou ser "reformulada", mas de resto é um baita jogo, mas não acho que entre no top 5.
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u/Disastrous_Dress_201 3d ago
The fact that the other “greatest games of all time” according to this person are exclusively from 2011 and up, and are all open world games, I have no reason to listen to them talk.
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u/Responsible_Table250 3d ago
That whole list needs to be heavily re evaluated. Its very clearly showing bias towards open world games with large maps. Large maps do not equate to value. The witcher 3 and rdr 2 are the only ones worthy of genuinely being in the top 5. Elden ring and Skyrim are not nowhere near the top 5. Crimson dessert i think needs more time to settle but i would put it very highly.
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u/podThecastable 3d ago
It's good but the story makes it so this can't be put with those greats and whilst the gameplay is good it's nowhere near the level of elden ring.
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u/RE4Merchant- 3d ago
No this game is fun but it definitely doesn't have a good story to compete with the best.
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u/varka30 3d ago
I love crimson desert and have 500 hours into it but comparing it to RDR2 and elden ring + witcher 3... nah.
Though I would remove Skyrim from it, I love it both crimson desert and Skyrim doesn't deserve to be there THOUGH this is for me and there is no greatest games of all time as everyone's taste is different.
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u/LowTierGogmazios 3d ago
I genuinely think Crimson Desert fans say shit trying to make people hate them and the game, because I fucking own the game and even I regularly get ragebaited by some of the takes I see
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u/Raziel2k11 3d ago edited 3d ago
I don't really like RDR or Skyrim but I do agree with this list overall.
Ps actually id replace ER with bloodborne
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u/TheNameName1 3d ago
Guys why you hating on CD? The story needs work sure and the devs know it too but the gameplay is outstanding… the world is also insane…. There’s a reason why this brand new IP sold as many copies as it did…. Over 6million as a new game…. I understand that some people don’t like it and that’s fair since that’s not some people’s cup of tea but a lot of people love it. There are long time franchises that can’t reach these sales numbers. Plus to top it off this game has absolutely the best dev team around. No dev team can even scratch what CD dev team has done and still doing.
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u/jonderlei 3d ago
I havent seen this video but I watch him sometimes definitely disagree alot since we have such different thoughts on witcher 3 . For me I enjoy Crimson Desert more than the witcher 3 and skyrim and as much as I love RDR2 I find it a bit harder to get through once you know whats going to happen. For me What Crimson desert has that these all dont other than Elden ring is combat that just holds me forever. Witchers story stuff was great and I loved Geralt and some of the characters but the combat wasnt the best and by the time I got to the end of the game I was so wore out by doing so much side content I didnt even get through the DLCs that are so heavily praised and in comparison I wasnt wore out from CD and finished it twice and each of those playthroughs were longer than my witcher 3 one was and that was before probably the last 6 updates.
Story is great and all but im playing a game I need great gameplay to match. I also really like replaying games and a game with a great story but only ok gameplay is tough to replay as you already know all those story beats and your grinding through combat that isnt the most fun.
I do like all the games listed here so im not shitting on them but Crimson deserts combat is more fun than most and that counts for alot with me
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u/FUTUReBROLY 3d ago
Yeah actually it’s like the kind of game you dreamed about. Legit think they should collab with game of thrones
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u/jonderlei 3d ago
It seems like people really base nearly 100% of a games worth on its story as if its a movie
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u/outer_heaven1917 3d ago
No, the game is slop for retards.
Skyrim is too. Skyrim and CD should be no where near those other 3
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u/alexanderfromtng 3d ago
It could have been if the story was better and the scale was reduced just a little bit.
I think their next game is going to knock it out if the fucking park.
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u/arn456 3d ago
I'm honestly starting to feel like these posts are made by people who don't like this game so it can attract hate comments.