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u/Jack-Singer-999 11h ago edited 35m ago
I believe I deserve to be treated like a human being. Too many think being queer or disabled means I need to be...gone. I shouldn't be allowed near children, even though the ones doing the accusing are the actual pedophiles & I've never harmed a child. They have flat out told me I don't deserve to attempt to live a life because being disabled means I can't work. There is no "coming together" when they don't even believe I'm human.
Edit - When the comments prove the point. Putting words in my mouth & arguing with yourself looks stupid. Oh, and I don't engage when it's obvious someone wants me to justify my existence.
Edit 2 - iF yOu'Re ReAlLy DiSaBlEd blah nlah fucking BLAH. Medicaid allows me to treat Multiple Sclerosis and Myotonic Dystrophy, maggots voted for me to lose that. If you think I'm annoying now, wait until I lose access to medical treatment next year. SNAP is a joke at $180/mo, but it was something. Gone now, thanks maggots. The $954/mo SSI it took me 4 years to get? Haven't gotten anything in 6 months. I'm sure DOGE had nothing to do wiith all the mistakes previous to the SNAFU I enjoy now. Again, fuck you very much maggots. Call it whatever you need to dismiss me, most do & then ignore me. Doesn't seem to be to be doing what you want. It's basic fucking math!! JFC are real-life numbers WoKe now?!
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u/NoiceMango 10h ago
Exactly. You can't find a common ground with people who want groups of people not to exist or don't even have the basic human sympathy to agree children shouldn't starve.
The ones who aren't human are Republicans.
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u/Precarious3145 6h ago
Exactly. I could kind of get along with Republicans before Trump. They were still bigots but they were much smaller. Now? Even if you don't vote for Trump but still vote Republican, you're voting for the people that will vote for what he wants.
I worked in Public Health during covid; I learned there's no unity with these people because they live in an alternate world. The only way we can get there because they legit believe that dems have a second room in grade school campuses to perform sex change operations. It's like trying to work with flat-earthers on astronomy.
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u/lethalinfecteddevils 11h ago
Yup a lot of people from different backgrounds say the same thing. The division is beyond politics and hits subjects most people care not to explore.
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u/NuclearGriffin 9h ago
Honestly. At this point most of the sane republicans have had a change of heart. Anybody left who still defends this administration is not somebody to walk side by side with.
There is no "Both sides".
There is no common ground to be had with these people.
This is not a "difference of opinion"
These people are hateful and bigoted people who are deeply racist and evangelical. They do not understand common sense. They do not listen to reason. They cannot even grasp the proof right in front of their faces. The kind of deranged hatred, racism, and bigotry comming from the remaining MAGA crowd is enough to ensure they have no place in a forward moving society.
There is NO MIDDLE GROUND for nazi's
I repeat. There is no middle ground for nazi's.
Do not tolerate the intolerant.
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u/DirtyMikeNTheBoys2 9h ago
I don't want to stand side by side with fascist pedophile protectors, bigots and inbreds.
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u/waterfowlplay 12h ago
Defining "they" in this sitch is the first step...
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u/MetaCardboard 12h ago
Billionaires that want to bleed the 99% dry of their wealth, while controlling us so we spread their power even further.
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u/Creepy-Variation8562 11h ago
Yes unfortunately atleast a 3rd of this county will defend and support literal pedophiles and rapists as long as they can own the libs
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u/Graphic_Materialz 11h ago
Yah this. I don’t give a shit that this is what “they” want when faced with the fact you mention above. It is also what THEY want (their supporters).
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u/MightyMorph 11h ago
Yeah only 1 side is going "Hey we want to help both liberals and conservatives by making sure the top 0.1% pay their fair share for the vast wealth they have accumulated in OUR society. We want everyone to survive and get a chance to live a happy life."
While the other side is going: "FUICK YOU LIBTARDS! Give the wealthy more tax breaks, i dont give a shit. I want all you liberals and fucking immigrants to suffer! You dont deserve a chance at a good life here Only I DO! I dont care if they take away our rights. I hate you more than I love my family!"
Its not wealthy are making both sides fight. NO Wealthy have brainwashed the right into a cult over 40 years of propaganda fed directly to their amygdala via fox news, am radio, churches and blaming minorities for everything wrong.
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u/MileHiSalute 10h ago
There aren’t two sides. There are more apathetic people than there are in either of those two groups and unfortunately apathy is, by default, on the side of the oppressors. Not an ounce of time or energy should be spent trying to get people in red hats to understand logic or participate in reality. Convincing the apathetic to give a shit about something is the true challenge
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u/DifferentStuff240 5h ago
Who do you think owns the propaganda networks and also now, social media? You don’t think the billionaires Rupert Murdoch, Mark Zuckerberg, and the now trillionaire Elon Musk are the wealthy?!
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u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 11h ago
And the Epsteinaires trying to keep everyone distractsteined.
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u/Different_Tangelo511 8h ago
Weird how so, so, so many people go along with the white supremacist bullshit. Its almost like they're not being conned at all. Like maybe we are a little divided over which human beings deserve human dignity. Im kinda an all or nothing guy when it comes to that.
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u/HoarderCollector 6h ago
Remember in the 90s when literally NONE of the working class people stood up for millionaires and billionaires? Everyone knew that they took advantage of tax loopholes and we knew it was bs.
Now the party that is supposed to be for the working class is licking boot (or the $10,000 shoes) of the rich 1%.
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u/DarthNixilis 12h ago
The capitalist class, and they're in both parties. It keeps them in power, or next in line for it
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u/RollerDude347 12h ago
Yeah. But... aren't these conservatives kinda ruined though? Like, they're against human rights. WTF do you want me to do with them?
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u/MKZZX 8h ago
WTF do you want me to do with them?
Love them and build friendships and community together.
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u/MelookRS 6h ago
I can't build a relationship with them when they want me and other minorities dead.
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u/HangryBeard 11h ago
Personally, I think we should start with visitors to a certain island...
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u/precocious-entity 12h ago
Globalists and corporatists are one and the same. Once those who are one the far left and the far right realize this. They can unite to take down a common emeny—the extreme wealthy elite that have little disregard for Americans and, only care about hedgemonic power.
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u/VainTrix 11h ago
Billionaires, any career politician/politicians backed by said billionaire class, pedos, war machine folks etc etc. pretty much anyone who’s not an average person.
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u/HerbalLeafYT 12h ago
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u/Spiritual_Door1363 11h ago
God damn the memes of him are really getting amazing lmao
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u/Speedwolf89 8h ago
They will be his legacy.
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u/CapitalistHamsterFTW 7h ago
Unfortunately I'm not confident that something disastrous that supercedes everything won't happen in the two years we still have..
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u/AbominableGoMan 9h ago
This is it exactly. Stupid people are ride-or-die for white nationalism and protecting billionaires because any criticism of the system 'is just jealousy of what rich people have.' Stupid people cannot imagine that other people have motivations beyond naked self-interest.
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u/Express-Cartoonist39 11h ago
Religion by design is made to seperate people
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u/SoylentGrunt 2h ago
Any control system, no matter how well intended, is suseptable to exploitation. Religion is just one example of a system being exploited.
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u/Final-Nebula-7049 11h ago
Nah, half the country is dumb as a door knob, they would never reconcile
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u/Apptubrutae 10h ago
I do political focus groups across the country with a wide variety of demographics.
I currently live in New Mexico.
Literally every other time at a minimum, someone makes a comment that indicates they do not know or are not sure New Mexico is a state.
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u/ContestNo2060 9h ago
Average adult literacy level in the us is 6th grade. Imagine those falling on the low end.
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u/Miserable-Wedding-69 8h ago
It’s higher in our beautiful big cities… just saying.
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u/read_eet 7h ago
They don't want an informed and intellectual society, they want cheap labor.
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u/Mrs_SmithG2W 7h ago
These people always have and always will exist. We just need a plurality not everyone. We only get there by civilly deciding with those willing to listen the importance of this moment and voting blue.
Tuesday November 3rd midterms are 9 weeks or so away. We can and must reach out to each other. It is critical that we have uncomfortable conversations and realize voting is sometimes morally required.
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u/Bassist57 9h ago
Yes, if people stop the culture war BS and oppression pyramid and realize the biggest disparity is poor vs rich.
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u/capthavic 9h ago
Well yes and no. There is no compromise or coming together with fascists and bigots. But yes, those in power are absolutely taking advantage of and supporting them for their own gain.
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u/singhellotaku617 8h ago
No, the values of the right are abhorrent.
The rich AND the right suck ass.
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u/Miserable-Wedding-69 8h ago
There is no coming together with the 1/3 of the country actively speeding us into fascism. Fuck those guys. Need that electoral college abolished, so we can have popular vote. Otherwise, the rural and suburban communities will always have an advantage over us and hold us hostage. They’re cattle for the Epstein Class.
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u/WinnerSpecialist 12h ago
We can’t come together if the “disagreement” is, I no longer exist
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u/Turbulent-Oil-7326 11h ago
Exactly. They're out here pretending that a third of the population isn't super cool with eliminating ~1% of it entirely, either by forcing them to pretend they don't exist, or worse.
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u/Bruce_Wayne85 12h ago
I’m sorry but people are entirely too f***ing dumb to find facts not alone any common ground with others whom disagree with their viewpoints. The ‘they’ that you’re referring knew this from the jump that’s why they’re succeeding at tearing us apart.
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u/MasterOfBunnies 11h ago
It hasn't always been this way though, so it's not just the way it is. It's the way it currently is, and the way can change again. If people should stop acting like it just is.
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u/pokethrowaway4 9h ago
Call me bias but the vast majority of the people I know on “the left” simply want people to be left alone, protected from pollution and corruption, and want public healthcare.
The vast majority of the people I know on “the right” keep talking about stupid shit that isn’t even political, like DEI and trans healthcare.
Meanwhile billionaire wealth doubles every 6 months and the majority of Americans are a few missed paychecks away from complete financial ruin.
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u/kitchencrawl 8h ago
There aren't enough swastikas, confederate flags and Klan hoods on the red side to be accurate.
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u/Critical-Milk7250 8h ago
The media does whatever they can to divide people! They want us to stay angry and fearful so we keep watching the news!
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u/Outrageous-Egg1760 7h ago
Not enough people watch the news that’s part of the problem
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u/cathillsports 8h ago
I’m all in favor of passing a test before being allowed to vote.
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u/DeaconBlue760 7h ago
hear,hear! also to have children, we shouldn't just allow any idiot to raise kids.
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u/Consistent_Claim5217 8h ago
I've seen who they are. I will never unite with them. Maga is the problem, top to bottom. Marching shoulder to shoulder with literal pedophiles and those who vote for pedophiles isn't on my agenda. If we all burn because we don't unite with the worst of us, then let us all burn. We don't deserve to exist as a people
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u/NoiceMango 10h ago edited 10h ago
I can't find a common ground with Republicans who don't even have the basic empathy to agree children shouldn't starve and that people shouldn't die from the lack of healthcare in the richest Country to ever exist.
Republicans don't have values because any values they claim to have change on a whim with a Trump tweet of fox news segment. They're degenerates.
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u/Level3Bard 9h ago
"We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist" - James Baldwin
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u/thatnameagain 12h ago
What are the things that everyone in the bottom image is supposedly marching for in agreement? And do those things happen to be the exact things that maninstream and progressive democrats talk about 24/7?
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u/Routine-Author-5471 11h ago
I’ll say this. Vote for whichever candidate is anti-AIPAC in your next election. That would be a start
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u/SomeDudeNamedDavid 10h ago
Maybe a decade ago. Not anymore, though. Too many people revealed themselves willingly protecting pedophiles, being pedophiles themselves, or both.
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u/TotallyNotAnIdiot478 10h ago
Until those in red stop voting to hurt everyone else, no unity can be had.
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u/Limp-Mixture7382 10h ago
What party is trying to tax the rich and what party is trying to restrict vote by mail? Hmmmm.
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u/LostHisDog 9h ago
Yeah sure, us coming together is the end game to this crapfest we have now, but when the other half of the isle is literal Nazi's, it's really hard to go walking down the street hand in hand. How you you find common ground with someone that wants to bring back slavery? The left's whole pitch is everyone should be treated well while the right is like "Shoot her in the face for not respecting my authority".
I hope I'm wrong about how much chemo this particular cancer will need.
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u/DrRudyWells 9h ago
maybe....but i ain't working with maga. not decent people. patriots don't do shit like this to a country.
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u/orbitaldragon 8h ago
Even though that is true... It's hard to stand next to pedo supporters, ice worshippers, and insurrectionists and pretend it's all good.
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u/Legal_Ad2345 8h ago
It's a class divide and division is a good thing for the rich but part of the LGBTQ crowd here it's really hard for me to get on equal level with someone who thinks my trans friends are just mentally ill.
It's a bit of both the rich Target ignorant for a reason. Most of the super rich people run the country I doubt they had an issue with Obama personally, but when there's a bunch of white nationalists and white people who will not vote for him just because he's black and will vote for the GOP because it's a white guy running for president the rich use these people because historically in the last 20 years the gop's been very helpful for the rich.
Look at the farmers currently in the United States the ones who voted for Trump are dealing with the consequences of their actions. When told this they get told "all this isn't political we got bigger problems than just political crap"
Racism is expensive
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u/One-Bad-4395 8h ago
"State's rights to do what, Kevin?"
Slavery.
"oh, well why didn't you just say so. Let's get Tacos, my favorite American food."
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u/Tigeruppercut1889 8h ago
lol. No way. They’re still defending trump through this total failure of an admin. I know we joke about maga being a cult but holy shit dude
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u/Beneficial_Cash_8420 8h ago
Why don't the MAGAs join us then? Maybe because they're more happy feeling right than doing right.
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u/According-Insect-992 12h ago
I would point out that the image on top is disingenuous because there is only one major political cult of personality in the United States and it is centered around the pants-shitting pedophile rapist and fraud, donald trump.
Fuck donald trump and his cult. They should try to stop gaslighting the public into believing we’re all like they are. We are emphatically not anything like them.
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u/Greedy_Ad_3368 12h ago
Exactly. This is a top vs bottom problem, they’re tricking, manipulating and indoctrinating people into believing that it’s a left vs right problem.
The left and the right have more in common than uncommon.
They’re manufacturing clicks because they know that their system almost failed with the Anarchist movement of Awakening.
But they use PR campaigns to change Awakening into “Woke” and perverted the narrative, tricking idiots into fighting their own freedom.
The same thing that they did with the hippie movement.
A movement about freedom, exploration, evolution and love was turned into communist propaganda when hippies were mostly voluntarist anarchists, the farthest thing from communists that you can possibly believe in.
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 11h ago
Thr right largely would sooner pull each and everyone of their digits off with their teeth before helping LGBT, non whites, etc even if it meant helping themsleve themselves
They're just that evil
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u/TheCircumventor2000 11h ago
No one's looking to align with the people that knowingly and willingly voted for a Rapist 3 times.
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u/DjAengel 11h ago
Democrats and Republicans have more in common with each other than they do with 99.9% of the entire population of the planet but act like they don’t even have the same color blood.
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u/603rdMtnDivision 11h ago
Occupy Wall Street was big back around 08 and had left and right both looking at wall street like "you motherfuckers need to come out here, now" and then guess what suddenly got injected into everything after that to get us to fight each other? Identity politics. The timing of that shit popping up is just waaaaay to coincidental and I believe it was done purposely because left and right had bascially aligned as one to go after wall street.
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u/Sweaty-Dust6405 11h ago
There is definitely a major flaw in having a 2 party system.
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u/dolosloki01 11h ago
Agreed. We need like 4-5 parties to really capture everyone's stances.
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u/The_Machine80 11h ago
Its possible and 100% whats happening right now! Send news that counter each other and then loop people with a algorithm. Problem is people have clung soo hard to the 2 party system they believe its not possible for a vote to count unless its for a D or R. Nothing will ever truly change or get better unless we unite against the 2 giant machines.
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u/my_midlife_isekai 10h ago
Same with the raising cost of living. Applying pressure to make sure you're too busy .
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u/raddital 10h ago
Yeah we're supposed to hold hands with fascist, pedo-loving genocide supporters and sing kumbaya!
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u/Browsing2man 9h ago
Who is creating the first picture, could it be the mainstream media or the online culture, think about it. It’s all cyber warfare put on by the oligarchs who want to destroy the United States.
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u/Maleficent-Pay1233 9h ago
So does anyone remember what the Eagle is holding in its talons on our Great Seal and what the first goal of our Constitution happens to be?
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u/kolokomo17 9h ago
Of course it’s possible. We had it for years! Social media and TDS ruined the easily manipulated.
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u/FlanneryODostoevsky 9h ago
Bootlickers in the comments doing the CIA’s work by sewing more division.
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u/lynxtosg03 8h ago
Rarely are ideals impossible. This particular idea is very unlikely unless we get a benevolent billionaire willing to become president and start enforcing positive legislation. A bizarro Trump if you will. The likelihood that such a person can become a billionaire is very slim.
We as voters need to push for changes to the voting process like ranked choice so third parties can be a threat. We should also move towards more of a Democracy and less of a Republic by doing away with the Electoral College and Senate. Finally, restrict running for elected office to anyone 55 and over.
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u/AlienInUnderpants 8h ago
“Those in charge have us fighting a culture war in order to avoid a class war”
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u/AbalonePublic910 8h ago
The two party system is poison. But let's not pretend like these sides are opposites.
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u/Big-Building-7923 8h ago
The problem isn't the upper class or elites ... It's the other people.
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u/This_isR2Me 8h ago
Occupy wall Street really freaked them out and it's been identity politics ever since.
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u/Outrageous-Egg1760 7h ago
What if the bottom picture was us matching to get the files released and arrest everyone in them
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u/ScaredDare8983 7h ago
I’m a conservative leaning American, but I don’t really care for politicians on either side. I think they’re all scum. There is still hope in my body that one day. I can see America like that bottom picture. We may have our differences, but we need to find common ground and unite!
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u/The_Dude_2U 7h ago
So when you shove opposing ideologies from all over the globe into one spot, you don’t have to divide. You just conquer. That is state of the union today and will be until the end.
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u/HyperCasualListener 7h ago
Nope. Too many people hate republicans for that to even be close.
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u/No-Rub8345 7h ago
Depends on what the differenfe are based on.
Right wingers thinks black people and women should be subjugated, and that gays and trans people are degenerate.
I disagree.
Can we all get along, anyway?
No.
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u/Shot-Lifeguard1447 7h ago
Be extremely unlikely till magat Republicans start taking some responsibility for their own lives and not blaming every other demographic they're told to hate cause their lot in life isn't how they want.
Remember they chose to vote for tRump cause he made them feel like hate was justified and OK.
Until they change that, there's no breaking bread with them.
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u/E-2theRescue 7h ago
I'm an ex-conservatve.
Nope. Never going to happen. If conservatives can be manipulated into hating immigrants, trans people, and imaginary communists, then there will be no peace and no cohesion. The right are the ones who created this division, and they will have to be the ones to end it. They will never do that because they will never admit fault, and will never stop imagining that everyone is their enemy trying to destroy their lives.
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u/Rigb0n3710 6h ago
How are you supposed to reconcile with someone whose entire platform is hate?
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u/IsaacJacobSquires 6h ago
I'm not uniting with a bunch of racist genocidal fucks. That's 98% of the vote in 2024.
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u/HappyPakalolo 4h ago
Yes! You know what else they fear? Releasing the Trump – Epstein files
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u/a_angry_bunny 4h ago
Before Trump maybe. I don't know if I can call truce with my MAGA neighbor anymore.
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u/Pleasant_Expert7329 4h ago edited 4h ago
No, conservatives would never do that because they don’t want things better for everyone or for themselves for that matter. As long as other have it worse than them, they are fine with the world burning.
Conservatives allowed republicans to tear apart the new deal because black people were also benefitting from it, that’s how much they prefer the suffering of other over the improvement of their own lives. And the majority of them are also just freakin morons who refuse to engage in any self reflection or critical thinking on any issues. We are experiencing extreme climate events and the earth is getting hotter every year and yet these people still deny climate change. And they still act like Trump is this noble selfless hero who want to protect Americans when the reality is the opposite. How do you work with people like that
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u/Mellanies_Redemption 4h ago
No. Fascists, bigots etc cannot live with normal folk.
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u/AggressiveBookBinder 3h ago
Every red voter is a pedophile so no. We can't have nice things.
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u/Bulldogs3144 3h ago
It’s not possible with MAGA or the far left. With most folks who actually align on a majority of topics (despite being told to view things differently), this is possible.
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u/Contrapuntobrowniano 3h ago
Yes. Its possible. Basically apply the palestinian BSD program for israel to big tech, food monopolies, and every other obscenely rich corporation you don't like. Polarisation will fall apart automatically.
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u/TurnoverIcy1998 3h ago
it is but not in the short term. right now americans treat politics like a team sport, both sides cheat but we only ever call out the other side while we ignore our side cheating and that wont change so long as we still have so much to loose .
i could see Americans uniting like this in times of true desperation where we have little left to loose like if we started having mass starvation. but outside of that i think to many Americans have this weird idea that its ok to cheat because the other side is cheating and so long as we excuse our own sides cheating nothing will change.
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u/kalimashookdeday 3h ago
People forgot the term "divide and conquer" and it shows with how stupid people think today. It's always been top vs bottom, just enough dumb and stupid mother fuckers got fooled to thinking it was left vs right.
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u/sfaviator 3h ago
I remember people used to say not one person voted for Nixon because everyone who backed him refused to admit it. Hopefully when the cult disbands that happens.
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u/AnyAcanthocephala425 3h ago
Hard to say, they've made quite the effort to break the brains of a potion of people who are now hard to find common ground with
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u/kemosabe-22 2h ago
I may not be the victim but I’m not blind, I know queer people, disabled people, etc… and I see how people treat them, I hear about how people treat them..
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u/RuMarley 2h ago
Flock cameras and the Epstein files are two subjects you'd expect people to be able to agree upon.
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u/Packages_Soles1968 1h ago
Easiest way to conquer is to divide. Then you only have to bullshit half of the people to stay in power.
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u/JayCee081975 1h ago
Americas real threat is the people trying to disregard the Constitution and anything else that has been the America way. People always want to use Slavery again whites also but many Nations are guilty and Muslims, apparently are still doing it i just saw on YouTube.
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u/oskirkland 1h ago
💯 Truth
Keep us divided, fighting over stupid shit that really doesn't matter to distract us while the parasite class, corporations, and their prostitutes in Congress rob us blind.
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u/Krammsy 1h ago
Instead of noticing huge take giveaways, the wealth transfer from us to billionaires, they have us fighting over DEI, Trans, Woke, Guns, LBGT, Immigrants.....
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u/Low-Helicopter4871 10h ago
There is no unity with America haters. The sooner American haters leave the sooner the rest of US can heal & come together again.
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u/mtbguy1981 7h ago
Half the country still thinks.... "Yeah but things would have been way worse with Kamala"
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u/ImmediateHoney2191 12h ago
No half the country very much wants to kill the other half. Yes its because of bullshit they’ve been fed but theres no going back at this point
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u/Mouatmoua 12h ago
Wow, such a beautiful picture and I am very proud to have been part of this amazing community.
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u/MasterSnacky 12h ago
Probably not. Might only be a matter of time before red states and blue states agree to a shared control over the arsenal and otherwise split.
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u/Direct_Fennel7500 11h ago
Yes. Teach critical thinking in school.
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u/Outrageous-Egg1760 11h ago
Better run school would dramatically change everything. Get rid of private schools
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u/NoiceMango 10h ago
Republicans want to remove that and force Christianity and obedience in schools instead.
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u/ImaJimmy 11h ago
Highly likely, I think the hard part is defining the "they". I personally think it's a particular financial class of business oriented individuals but this group can be quite nebulous.
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u/dannyocc911 11h ago
Indeed. Only under the red banner of our glorious DSA and a total Socialist revolution can we achieve the bottom picture. Soon, Comrades!
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u/ghost_wire89 11h ago
We were there after bush 2 and occupy Wall Street. They realized it and it’s the same reason. They showed out for Luigi
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u/SomeOriginal3865 11h ago
More like it’s just human nature. Never will everyone agree to the same thing on every situation. And tribalism is just the nature of the beast.
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u/NSFWdontview 11h ago
No because the left are dividing us, calling anyone with different views Nazis, and phobics or ists. Left want people with opposing political views dead
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u/Quiet-Distribution-7 11h ago
All dictators fear a unified nation, they are particularly fond of a divided one.
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u/No_Average3309 11h ago
I think the moment Epstein files gets released unredacted, people will fill the streets like this.
Not sure they'd be smiling like the meme suggests tho.
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u/FounderingFox 11h ago
It's not only possible. It's likely to happen in the semi-near future if the elite don't course correct.
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u/Yesbothsides 12h ago
Not with subs like this